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Family That Slays Together Part I EXTENDED CUT
Uh, discussion. Longest episode title (and episode in general) ever. Anyways, for those of you paying attention the episode is up on AS.com video for your enjoyment. As is the custom you can talk about the episode (or the series in general) in the comments here and if you haven't seen it yet beware of spoilers!
Also of note is the episode on Adult Swim's website is a full two minutes longer than the one that will be airing on Adult Swim this Sunday at 11:30pm EST. So you really ought to check it out on the internet. Unless you are a sad person not in the US because AS doesn't let you guys watch unless you are a trickster. Anyway, enjoy! Oh yeah, and be sure to rate the episode on the capsule page if you get a chance!
Also of note is the episode on Adult Swim's website is a full two minutes longer than the one that will be airing on Adult Swim this Sunday at 11:30pm EST. So you really ought to check it out on the internet. Unless you are a sad person not in the US because AS doesn't let you guys watch unless you are a trickster. Anyway, enjoy! Oh yeah, and be sure to rate the episode on the capsule page if you get a chance!
- by Mike
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- by Mike
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- by The Mysterious 'H'
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Not much. The Monarch and men (and Dr. Mrs. Monarch) raid the compound, decapitate Brock and 21 kisses Dr. Mrs. Monarch. Except it's not real. It's some kind of virtual reality with dummies on a holodeck or something. Cue full credits.
Really, that and starring Sargeant Hatred's nads instead of barring them is what makes this 'uncut'.
Really, that and starring Sargeant Hatred's nads instead of barring them is what makes this 'uncut'.
- by Josh Geller
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Extra beginning, it seems. Brock and Hunter in the titty bar, bartender (didn't Brock kill him once?) yells at Hunter to go back to work, Brock buys a lap dance and retrieves a passport, drivers license and discover card from Hunter's shorts, something else from her bra, says he needs wheels, Hunter says 'take mine, but you are not going to like getting the keys' and offers him her crotch, which (if I am not mistaken) has a bulge in it. Didn't Brock check downstairs when he first saw the New Hunter? Or maybe the bulge is the keys?
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- by cgeye
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Jackson Publick's notice about this episode (and a Very Special Guest Star, for Season 4) here:
http://jacksonpublick.livejournal.com/22875.html
http://jacksonpublick.livejournal.com/22875.html
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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That the suicide prevention hotline ripped off! http://www.whatadifference.org/
Or is that based on a famous photo that I just have never seen? It wouldn't make sense for a group that advertises on adultswim.com to rip off a photo from the blog of a show creator. Or would it?
Or is that based on a famous photo that I just have never seen? It wouldn't make sense for a group that advertises on adultswim.com to rip off a photo from the blog of a show creator. Or would it?
- by haux
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right.
because no one would ever, on their own, invent doing a group shot like that. like football players in a huddle.
"hey, is there a way we can get all 5 of our faces into a circle?"
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what i meant is, i doubt it's any kind of ripoff. that's a reasonably common alternative group shot.
because no one would ever, on their own, invent doing a group shot like that. like football players in a huddle.
"hey, is there a way we can get all 5 of our faces into a circle?"
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what i meant is, i doubt it's any kind of ripoff. that's a reasonably common alternative group shot.
- by green lantren mogo
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Yes it is. how are they gonna get out of this? why is the osi trying to kill brock? will seargnt hatred's wife leave him? will H.E.L.P.eR survive? will brock survive? will dr.orpheous factor in in some way? Why did the guild make the monarch stop arching dr.venture in the first place? does this look infected to you? who will the osi send next? butter me i'm on a roll! will the gang make it to spider-skull island? will triana show up? what will kevin conroy do in season 4? bule red green! "whew" sorry I was on a roll there and lost my sanity but a majority of those were legitimate questions.
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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I think Brock just didn't know what he was doing. He thought he was getting information on having to kill Rusty but activated his termination code, which is like a really cool suicide pill. If an agent is captured or compromised, he self terminates to protect his secrets. And Brock doesn't know how to stop it.
- by Josh Geller
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I think it is something like that also.
I suppose it will be resolved either next week or next season.
This show gets into unexpectedly deep SF territory sometimes, and I wonder if Brock is going to die and be cloned. That would open up all sorts of phildickian questions of identity and being.
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I suppose it will be resolved either next week or next season.
This show gets into unexpectedly deep SF territory sometimes, and I wonder if Brock is going to die and be cloned. That would open up all sorts of phildickian questions of identity and being.
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- by ananon
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(Pre)Sgt. Hatred gave Brock the order's assigning him to Operation Rusty's Blanket in Invisible Hand of Fate. The "Orders Regarding Body Guard - Termination Clause", buried with the Edison phonograph, had a Guild insignia.
Has Brock actually been following (unknowingly) Guild orders all this time?
Has Brock actually been following (unknowingly) Guild orders all this time?
- by Amun-Ra
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People who are confused about this clearly haven't been paying attention. EVERYTHING about Sandow and Colonel Venture had guild dragons- the guild didn't used to be an evil organization, it only became one later. You'll notice there's a sword going through the dragon instead of it standing on top of the world. The Guild of Calamitous Intent is a successor organization to this original guild.
- by Crush Venture
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- by Trashcan Man
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When Le Tueur (french for The Killer) meets his end and Brock calls for the cleaner he says to say "we have a Damien Hirst"
Damien Hirst is a British artist who specializes in cut-up animals put on display- like animals bisected and such. You know, like Le Tueur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Hirst
Damien Hirst is a British artist who specializes in cut-up animals put on display- like animals bisected and such. You know, like Le Tueur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Hirst
- by Dylan
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- by The Mysterious 'H'
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I wish I could say it lives up to the hype. I really do. But it just makes me want them to get Part 2 out so I can finish.
A few things: Not much Mol, that dissapoints me. Loved Hunter's 'Titsey Fly' line, just great. I guess we finally know where that D is on Hatred, love that too. The killers, very formulaic as far as I'm concerned. The gun guy reminds me of the Xenomorph and anime. Saw Shark Samson coming, but the hair loss is a nice callback. Holy Diver, was expecting a lot more. There was a bit of a Home Insecurity vibe at times so I was waiting for GUARDO to show up. Oh well, maybe next ep.
Also, what is up with the whole "Hank may be gay" thing? Where did this come from? I know Alchemist mentions it in Fallen Arches but it sorta came out of nowhere.
A few things: Not much Mol, that dissapoints me. Loved Hunter's 'Titsey Fly' line, just great. I guess we finally know where that D is on Hatred, love that too. The killers, very formulaic as far as I'm concerned. The gun guy reminds me of the Xenomorph and anime. Saw Shark Samson coming, but the hair loss is a nice callback. Holy Diver, was expecting a lot more. There was a bit of a Home Insecurity vibe at times so I was waiting for GUARDO to show up. Oh well, maybe next ep.
Also, what is up with the whole "Hank may be gay" thing? Where did this come from? I know Alchemist mentions it in Fallen Arches but it sorta came out of nowhere.
- by Josh Geller
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More gun wierdness from DH and JP. I live in a rural area: everyone around here, or almost everyone, owns a couple of guns at least. Not one gun owner here, or any gun owner that I have ever known has this wacky sexual fetish. Does anyone? Oh yeah, Phil Spector. OK, so there's one. But the only place (modulo PS) that you ever see this is in portrayals of gun owners by anti-gun people.
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- by Joey Michaels
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There's a big difference between "gun owner" and "assassin," and an even greater distance between "gun owner" and "psychopathic assassin with gun fetish." I don't think there was any intention in this character to suggest that all gun owners - or, in fact, any real world gun owners - fetishize their guns.
- by Roscoe
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I am a gun owner (not Fetishist) and I thought that Herr Trigger was hillarious! That scene didn't strike me as an anti-Firearm Thing. just a "Boss, creepy, German Villan" thing. If anything, I suppose it strikes me more as a perpetuation of the steriotype that All Germans are sexual deviants.
Also, Yeah, he woulda' burned the hell out of his tongue.
Also, Yeah, he woulda' burned the hell out of his tongue.
- by Crush Venture
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- by Mike
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Uhh, I don't think Herr Trigger was meant to represent all gun owners, but you can suddenly become defensive about it. And even if it was some sort of half-assed anti-gun message, why does that even matter? Not everyone is going to share your viewpoint on everything, and this is hardly the place to discuss it either.
- by peterbr
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Ooh, right, talking about the guy in the Batman towel. I read that as a "Batman" joke rather than a "Hank is gay" joke, as well. To me, that's part of what's always makes VB funny - the bros. are so naive that they make some comments that could be construed as dirty/sexual/inappropriate, but they really have no idea what they're saying.
- by Dylan
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For you folks that can't watch the AS videos, I put the extra 2 minutes of the episode up for you here:
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o176/Crumbleslug/?action=view¤t=venture_038_prologue_Xfh34_asfix_dl.flv
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o176/Crumbleslug/?action=view¤t=venture_038_prologue_Xfh34_asfix_dl.flv
- by cgeye
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It's full of action, but we're so much in the moment there's no time to figure out one thing -- WHERE IN THE WORLD IS THE ORB NOW?
If it's still in that safe, and the Venture compound has a comprehensive surveillance system, then any enemy broaching the compound can wind the tape back to see where Rusty hid it -- and that opens up the can of worms so deftly forgotten in this episode.
If it feels like a diversion from the huge implications considered from the last episode, it probably is -- but this ep's also a fire to forge families together.
H.E.L.P.E.R/Brock's, Monarch/DMTM's family, all get stronger through the main couple (sorta) working together... gee, it's like last week's MAD MEN, except for the lack of spontaneous finger-banging at Lutece....
If it's still in that safe, and the Venture compound has a comprehensive surveillance system, then any enemy broaching the compound can wind the tape back to see where Rusty hid it -- and that opens up the can of worms so deftly forgotten in this episode.
If it feels like a diversion from the huge implications considered from the last episode, it probably is -- but this ep's also a fire to forge families together.
H.E.L.P.E.R/Brock's, Monarch/DMTM's family, all get stronger through the main couple (sorta) working together... gee, it's like last week's MAD MEN, except for the lack of spontaneous finger-banging at Lutece....
- by wordmaster
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The title does suggest that each member of the family will have to kill someone themselves (or perhaps contribute to Brock killing someone anyway), and this recalls the Rusty Venture Show where Col. Gentleman urged a young Rusty to kill Half-Jackal. Perhaps Dr. V will hesitate again?
- by Leah
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What I loved best:
Brock shaving off his mullet and putting it on a shark. And then the shark beheading the the Scottish mercenary. Wish I could say classic, but I've never seen that before.
Helper as the X-1's landing gear!
Molotov Cocktease has Blackhearts, just like Joan Jett!
The French assassin apologizes to Hank when his hits him in the chest. Then he cut off Brock's nipple.
The squeegee sound when Brock reattaced his nipple, and how it just stayed there instead of falling off into the floor like it should of.
That was the BEST V.B. episode eva, like EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brock shaving off his mullet and putting it on a shark. And then the shark beheading the the Scottish mercenary. Wish I could say classic, but I've never seen that before.
Helper as the X-1's landing gear!
Molotov Cocktease has Blackhearts, just like Joan Jett!
The French assassin apologizes to Hank when his hits him in the chest. Then he cut off Brock's nipple.
The squeegee sound when Brock reattaced his nipple, and how it just stayed there instead of falling off into the floor like it should of.
That was the BEST V.B. episode eva, like EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- by Joe
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This may sound silly, but I've always been a really big fan of the "My former agency and pretty much everybody else in the world is suddenly out to kill me so I've got to very quickly bug out and head somewhere safe" scenario/cliche'
With that in mind, seeing the normally unflappable Brock urgently ordering the Venture Family to abandon the Compound and retreat to Spider Skull Island....wow. I felt like I should be packing and high-tailing out of here too. THAT is what makes a show great. When you nearly forget that you're watching a cartoon. Damn fine job.
Loved:
Hunter's constant hot-cold dialogue with Brock too. Hilarious!
The German killer peering through his scope, panning around only to see Brock filling up his sights.
A few other things too but no time to type.
And yeah, not much of a cliffhanger. Ah well.
I sure hope Jonas Jr and his Team Venture come into the picture somewhere.
And I sense some Miami Vice parodying next week.
With that in mind, seeing the normally unflappable Brock urgently ordering the Venture Family to abandon the Compound and retreat to Spider Skull Island....wow. I felt like I should be packing and high-tailing out of here too. THAT is what makes a show great. When you nearly forget that you're watching a cartoon. Damn fine job.
Loved:
Hunter's constant hot-cold dialogue with Brock too. Hilarious!
The German killer peering through his scope, panning around only to see Brock filling up his sights.
A few other things too but no time to type.
And yeah, not much of a cliffhanger. Ah well.
I sure hope Jonas Jr and his Team Venture come into the picture somewhere.
And I sense some Miami Vice parodying next week.
- by peterbr
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"...seeing the normally unflappable Brock urgently ordering the Venture Family to abandon the Compound and retreat to Spider Skull Island....wow. I felt like I should be packing and high-tailing out of here too. THAT is what makes a show great. When you nearly forget that you're watching a cartoon. Damn fine job."
Indeed.
Indeed.
- by jon
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it's probably not an intentional reference, but the "What Would Batman Do" joke reminds me of a webcomic called The Adventures of Dr. McNinja. It's a bit of a running gag that evolved into a shirt already.
http://tinyurl.com/wwbdtshirt
and yeah this episode was amazing. loved it.
http://tinyurl.com/wwbdtshirt
and yeah this episode was amazing. loved it.
- by dru26
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AWESOME EP! This one actually had me clenching on to my seat coz I thought brock was going to die for sure! but then i'd start laughing my ass off at something doc said :D
episodes like this really make me appreciate that i've been watching the VB's from day one and actually understand the inside jokes of the venture universe :D
episodes like this really make me appreciate that i've been watching the VB's from day one and actually understand the inside jokes of the venture universe :D
- by Matt
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What a great episode! I enjoyed all of the Venture "history" this season, but it is great to close it out with the main cast in such over the top fashion. Hard to rate until the 2nd half, but this has potential to be the best of season 3. The absurdly specialized killers reminded me of a zillion B grade spy flicks from the 70's.
- by TerryBallweevil
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The Holy Diver guy is exactly like the submarine fellow in the "Phoebe Zeitgeist" comic book. Mr. Mike from Saturday Night Live worked on that book so the humor was pretty well developed.
Some guy online has some of the Zeitgeist story that ended up in the book here:
http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=phoebe+Zeitgeist+&FORM=BIRE#
Use the bible as a weapon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That, is what the divine creator has taught us smaller beings, or somethin'.
Some guy online has some of the Zeitgeist story that ended up in the book here:
http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=phoebe+Zeitgeist+&FORM=BIRE#
Use the bible as a weapon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That, is what the divine creator has taught us smaller beings, or somethin'.
- by dillsnufus
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did anyone mention no footage at the end? f*cking love this episode. this is like the dark knight of season enders for this show. darker and a few but good laughs. this show's episodes always feel like they could be movies because of how much i wish it was an hour and half length. the whole brock samson story is great but what did he do to be killed(not kill rusty?) hank and dean's face when brock says he doesn't care about them "IS PRICELESS they have like old man faces ,it's wierd at first but great "
- by Bonzo the Fifth
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Wow...
This was totally not what I was expecting (a follow up to ORB, which now seems like it's going to be the Season 4 arc, most likely), but I'm still fairly satisfied with what's here, namely, the chance for Brock to finally go sickhouse on some deserving folks, which has been one of the only things truly lacking for the last season and a half. Notably, though, it seems to have been something deliberately ignored just to make this episode that much more of a gut-puncher.
Favorite bits:
--The classic 'oil on the highway' routine that's thwarted when the gun loving German proved skillful enough a motorcycle rider to actually avoid.
--The frog-line trick the second guy managed to snag Brock with. Ridiculous, yes, but somehow fitting with the world the show operates in.
--The whole shark sequence, beginning to end. 'nuff said.
--Dean's recalling of 'the only weapon you'll ever need'... priceless...
--Moltov and the Blackhearts... hope that's not the last we see of them...
--The fact that the Monarch believes enough in his wife that he'd send her after BROCK SAMSON expecting her to come back alive...
--Lowbrow, I know, but the scene with the Moppets and Dean's stuffed giraffe had me rolling in the floor.
--HELPeR as the landing gear... the animation on that scene was just beautiful. I really felt bad for the poor robot that time (after all the other times his injuries have been played for laughs).
If I watch it again, I'm sure I'll find more...
This was totally not what I was expecting (a follow up to ORB, which now seems like it's going to be the Season 4 arc, most likely), but I'm still fairly satisfied with what's here, namely, the chance for Brock to finally go sickhouse on some deserving folks, which has been one of the only things truly lacking for the last season and a half. Notably, though, it seems to have been something deliberately ignored just to make this episode that much more of a gut-puncher.
Favorite bits:
--The classic 'oil on the highway' routine that's thwarted when the gun loving German proved skillful enough a motorcycle rider to actually avoid.
--The frog-line trick the second guy managed to snag Brock with. Ridiculous, yes, but somehow fitting with the world the show operates in.
--The whole shark sequence, beginning to end. 'nuff said.
--Dean's recalling of 'the only weapon you'll ever need'... priceless...
--Moltov and the Blackhearts... hope that's not the last we see of them...
--The fact that the Monarch believes enough in his wife that he'd send her after BROCK SAMSON expecting her to come back alive...
--Lowbrow, I know, but the scene with the Moppets and Dean's stuffed giraffe had me rolling in the floor.
--HELPeR as the landing gear... the animation on that scene was just beautiful. I really felt bad for the poor robot that time (after all the other times his injuries have been played for laughs).
If I watch it again, I'm sure I'll find more...
- by Pirate Hippy
- (unregistered id: A2D8BED341)
Yes, in light of this being "a show about failure", everyone seems to be hot for someone who is not interested in them or otherwise unavailable: Sheila for Brock, 21 for Sheila, Brock for Molotov, etc. Dean and Triana break that pattern, but I'm sure Dean will figure some other way to fail.
- by cgeye
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I've been holding back on this thought, because I was hoping I'd see evidence it wasn't true, but when it comes to her Moppets, Sheila is bug nuts crazy.
*My babies!* Hello? Homicidal foul-mouthed little people who threaten your husband and his crew, babies? I guess she has to have something to make her more than the perfect babe henchwoman/girlfriend/hottie, but man is that a bringdown.
*My babies!* Hello? Homicidal foul-mouthed little people who threaten your husband and his crew, babies? I guess she has to have something to make her more than the perfect babe henchwoman/girlfriend/hottie, but man is that a bringdown.
- by barrytown
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I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Molotov is most certainly interested in Brock. She just can't "connsumate" because of her chastity belt. I'm sure that's symbolic of something, but if you go back and watch Assassinanny 911 she is very obviously hot for Brock. But if your point was that he was hot for her and couldn;t have her, then yes, you're right. I hope at some point they go more into what the heck's up with that chastity belt.
- by Lord Multiman
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Did anyone get a R2 vibe from HELPeR when he was screaming?
Also, the logic behind OSI wanting to kill Brock is kinda off. Originally, Brock was supposed to be killed after he killed Rusty for messing with the ORB. But Brock didn't kill Rusty because he wasn't going to use it. Yet they still want to kill Brock, but not Rusty? Why? Because the car told them to? I know it's just a cartoon, but it's one of those plots that unravels if you spend more that five minutes thinking about it.
Also, the logic behind OSI wanting to kill Brock is kinda off. Originally, Brock was supposed to be killed after he killed Rusty for messing with the ORB. But Brock didn't kill Rusty because he wasn't going to use it. Yet they still want to kill Brock, but not Rusty? Why? Because the car told them to? I know it's just a cartoon, but it's one of those plots that unravels if you spend more that five minutes thinking about it.
- by Josh Geller
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Bureaucratic screw-up.
The car sent a message to OSI headquarters, the computer printed out a couple-three orders, they went with a whole stack of papers to some GS-10 who signed them without reading them.
Or something.
These things happen.
Also, it gives a way to resolve it without killing Brock or permanently breaking up the Venture family.
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The car sent a message to OSI headquarters, the computer printed out a couple-three orders, they went with a whole stack of papers to some GS-10 who signed them without reading them.
Or something.
These things happen.
Also, it gives a way to resolve it without killing Brock or permanently breaking up the Venture family.
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- by ataribot
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I knew I had seen Holy Diver's armor sequence somewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKwrI5MYIM&feature=related
I always get a good laugh at this horrible show when flipping through christian channels. I had to google it, apparently it is called 'Bible Man'. Nice addition to the episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKwrI5MYIM&feature=related
I always get a good laugh at this horrible show when flipping through christian channels. I had to google it, apparently it is called 'Bible Man'. Nice addition to the episode.
- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 49A69A6BF7)
Are you sure he kidnapped the surgeon? I misremember whether that was made explicit. Because, you don't want a pissed off surgeon working on you, when you are under anesthetics.
I think that if he did kidnap him, he wouldn't necessarily tell him the whole story, just 'play along and you can have a couple million cash at the end'.
Then kill him or not, as seems appropriate.
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I think that if he did kidnap him, he wouldn't necessarily tell him the whole story, just 'play along and you can have a couple million cash at the end'.
Then kill him or not, as seems appropriate.
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- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 36C24A10D7)
If Brock hadn't checked Hunter's crotch, I'd think that he had just kidnapped a tit guy: the switching genitalia part of any GR surgery is tricky, tricky stuff, done by urologists (in the case of M->F) who specialize in this very thing, and make good like you wouldn't believe money doing it.
I mean, anyone can make a pair of tits: couple of incisions, two silicone prosthetics et voila.
But making a pussy? It takes an artist to make a pussy. Or God.
I'm sure Hunter paid the surgeon plenty. Wouldn't want a disgruntled surgeon talking to the authorities any more than he'd want a pissed off one slicing on him while he's out.
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I mean, anyone can make a pair of tits: couple of incisions, two silicone prosthetics et voila.
But making a pussy? It takes an artist to make a pussy. Or God.
I'm sure Hunter paid the surgeon plenty. Wouldn't want a disgruntled surgeon talking to the authorities any more than he'd want a pissed off one slicing on him while he's out.
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- by Mike
- (unregistered id: 027D18FA77)
- by The 7 of Swords
- (unregistered id: B83E6F355E)
I never heard of "bibleman" (wow, that's freakin' hilarious!), but I recognized the reference to Ephesians:
" ... take up the whole armor of God ... Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit ..." yadda yadda yadda, and so on and so forth, etc. etc. forever and ever amen ...
OK, I made that last part up.
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" ... take up the whole armor of God ... Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit ..." yadda yadda yadda, and so on and so forth, etc. etc. forever and ever amen ...
OK, I made that last part up.
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- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 89EB6F36BA)
OK.
Brock's fighting Herr Triggermensch. He breaks the guy's sniper rifle over his head.
TM's lying there, Brock does the whole I-don't-love-you bit with the boys, TM starts getting up, Brock spins and tosses his k-bar, which hits TM, like, in the solar plexus and sticks halfway out with some bits of blood on it. TM twitches a bit.
Shift perspective. We see TM twitching in the background and falling still. He lies there, apparently dead, while Brock finishes his Lassie speech.
X-1 takes off, Brock starts to turn, bullets hit around his feet. He dives, there is his sparkling clean knife, which he picks up. He runs for Hunter's Spyhunter car and jumps in, pulls off.
Bullets bounce off the car, and there is TM, standing there with one of those Czech machine pistols, maybe twenty feet away.
Now, we will leave aside how an expert assassin manages to miss someone as large as Brock Samson twenty feet away with his little machinegun. Everybody knows that bad guys can't shoot, no matter how qualified they are supposed to be. But as for the rest of it, WTF?
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Brock's fighting Herr Triggermensch. He breaks the guy's sniper rifle over his head.
TM's lying there, Brock does the whole I-don't-love-you bit with the boys, TM starts getting up, Brock spins and tosses his k-bar, which hits TM, like, in the solar plexus and sticks halfway out with some bits of blood on it. TM twitches a bit.
Shift perspective. We see TM twitching in the background and falling still. He lies there, apparently dead, while Brock finishes his Lassie speech.
X-1 takes off, Brock starts to turn, bullets hit around his feet. He dives, there is his sparkling clean knife, which he picks up. He runs for Hunter's Spyhunter car and jumps in, pulls off.
Bullets bounce off the car, and there is TM, standing there with one of those Czech machine pistols, maybe twenty feet away.
Now, we will leave aside how an expert assassin manages to miss someone as large as Brock Samson twenty feet away with his little machinegun. Everybody knows that bad guys can't shoot, no matter how qualified they are supposed to be. But as for the rest of it, WTF?
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- by Pirate Hippy
- (unregistered id: A2D8BED341)
Wow, talk about missing the joke(s) due to excessive literal-mindedness.
Bad guys missing the good guys is such a cliche that The Venture Brothers is bound to parody it.
And the assassin has just been pummeled by Brock several times so his aim must have been off (if you insist on looking for a "rational" explanation).
More "rational" explanations might include the fact that it's very easy to miss people twenty feet away with a little "machinegun" (actually submachinegun or machine pistol), that's why they teach single shot rifle marksmanship to soldiers. Policemen and criminals get into point blank fire fights all the time and miss. It happens.
Seriously, you're overthinking this.
Bad guys missing the good guys is such a cliche that The Venture Brothers is bound to parody it.
And the assassin has just been pummeled by Brock several times so his aim must have been off (if you insist on looking for a "rational" explanation).
More "rational" explanations might include the fact that it's very easy to miss people twenty feet away with a little "machinegun" (actually submachinegun or machine pistol), that's why they teach single shot rifle marksmanship to soldiers. Policemen and criminals get into point blank fire fights all the time and miss. It happens.
Seriously, you're overthinking this.
- by Hardy
- (unregistered id: 1E47238031)
I just assumed that since he was hit over the head several times....and lost some blood.....that he really wasn't operating on all cylinders immediately. And then slowly getting more and more coordinated as more adrenaline enters his body....enough to let him drive his motorcycle.
Isn't that realistic?
Isn't that realistic?
- by Crush Venture
- (unregistered id: F3464BA680)
"Now, we will leave aside how an expert assassin manages to miss someone as large as Brock Samson twenty feet away with his little machinegun"
He evidently wanted the cool car chase , a game of "cat and also cat" , maybe he was sharpening his claws before the kill , you know like fencing the art of it all.....and it paid off , he likes pain and he got to get hit by Brocks wheels ...and ftw gets to ummm get off with that Stinger Missile for the real kill.
He evidently wanted the cool car chase , a game of "cat and also cat" , maybe he was sharpening his claws before the kill , you know like fencing the art of it all.....and it paid off , he likes pain and he got to get hit by Brocks wheels ...and ftw gets to ummm get off with that Stinger Missile for the real kill.
- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 89EB6F36BA)
More Triggermensch wierdness: at the very end of the car chase scene, Brock and Hank are getting on the X-1, TM is lying there in the burning oil slick, screaming in agony. They take off, there he is, unburnt, giggling, with an antiaircraft missile maybe four feet long that he pulled out of his butt and uses to shoot down the X-1. Finally, the escape pod that we saw used in the Unterland sequence lands on the booger, crushing and silencing him.
OK, now, I am all with the cartoon-reality-is-different-from-reality-reality bit. But this is a bit extreme. Is there some pop culture reference that my 25 years spent avoiding televisions has left me unequipped to handle?
And who the heck is Gary Busey (sp?)?
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OK, now, I am all with the cartoon-reality-is-different-from-reality-reality bit. But this is a bit extreme. Is there some pop culture reference that my 25 years spent avoiding televisions has left me unequipped to handle?
And who the heck is Gary Busey (sp?)?
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- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 241A32BF89)
I don't understand your remark, sir, would you kindly expand upon it?
My point is that the man was shown to die at least twice, maybe three times (beaten to death with his own rifle, hit in the breadbasket with Brock's knife, burned - maybe not to death, but enough to scream in agony - in the oil slick) before finally(?) being crushed by the X-1's escape pod.
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My point is that the man was shown to die at least twice, maybe three times (beaten to death with his own rifle, hit in the breadbasket with Brock's knife, burned - maybe not to death, but enough to scream in agony - in the oil slick) before finally(?) being crushed by the X-1's escape pod.
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- by General Treister
- (unregistered id: 21D959691A)
I only meant that for a guy who wonders why they depict Trigger as such a fetishist, you seem a little preoccupied with his specific weapons, their size, and what part of his body he might be pulling them from. But in terms of his staying power, we never necessarily saw him take a lethal blow at any point until the end. He's knocked unconscious twice, stabbed in the gut once--perhaps Brock was reluctant to deliver a killing stroke in front of the young Ventures?--then he survives a crash and some burning, which people have been known to do. Far fetched, sure, but not for a cartoon. I've seen crazier in live action movies that are supposed to be taken seriously.
- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 8D3C36020A)
Oh I see. You are implying that I am a fetishist such as Herr TM. I am not sure why you would say such a thing. I could speculate why, but I have better things to do.
Whatever your motivation, I fear that this indicates that you are not someone who can be constructively engaged in conversation, at least not in this matter.
I do wish you the greatest joy.
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Whatever your motivation, I fear that this indicates that you are not someone who can be constructively engaged in conversation, at least not in this matter.
I do wish you the greatest joy.
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- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 1B98EA76E9)
Pardon me?
I disagreed before I said that.
I am just being polite.
Previously, it seemed (and still seems) to me that Generai Treiser was trying to insult me. So I gave him a chance to say that is not what he was doing, which he did not. So I told him I don't want to talk to him (there is no percentage in having a conversation with someone whose opening is an insult, and it is unpleasant to boot), and wished him well, because I don't really have anything against him (I don't know him): I just don't want to talk to him.
Also, I do not believe that the term 'passive-aggressive' means what you seem to think it means:
"Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as learned helplessness, procrastination, stubbornness, resentment, sullenness, or deliberate/repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible."
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior
Is there anything else that I can clarify for you?
I hope that you have a wonderful evening and that everything you wish for occurs in the way you wish it to occur.
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I disagreed before I said that.
I am just being polite.
Previously, it seemed (and still seems) to me that Generai Treiser was trying to insult me. So I gave him a chance to say that is not what he was doing, which he did not. So I told him I don't want to talk to him (there is no percentage in having a conversation with someone whose opening is an insult, and it is unpleasant to boot), and wished him well, because I don't really have anything against him (I don't know him): I just don't want to talk to him.
Also, I do not believe that the term 'passive-aggressive' means what you seem to think it means:
"Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as learned helplessness, procrastination, stubbornness, resentment, sullenness, or deliberate/repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible."
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior
Is there anything else that I can clarify for you?
I hope that you have a wonderful evening and that everything you wish for occurs in the way you wish it to occur.
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- by haux
- (unregistered id: 0038EDC461)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
i imagine you'll disagree.
keep on keepin' on.
i imagine you'll disagree.
keep on keepin' on.
- by Sparky
- (unregistered id: 35170347EB)
Some of us are obsessed with Pop Culture TV references popping up in a beloved cartoon show.
The only politics that should be relevant here are whether those of a 10 year old Rusty are the same now.
Such as his belief that then President Nixon should give haircuts to the Herculoids and send them to Vietnam to fight the war.
I could be wrong though.
The only politics that should be relevant here are whether those of a 10 year old Rusty are the same now.
Such as his belief that then President Nixon should give haircuts to the Herculoids and send them to Vietnam to fight the war.
I could be wrong though.
- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: C0665DA811)
What about the E-list actors? Dare I ask? Do I really want to know? And are these all SAG actors, or are there, like, some pornostars and off-broadway amateurs and actors who only appear in commercials and actors who act like they got various ailments to train doctors (Mother does that)?
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- by General Treister
- (unregistered id: 21D959691A)
You asked me to kindly expand on my remark! So I did! And then moved on to address the rest of your entry and offer a counter-interpretation of the events of the episode. Which is a fairly constructive way to engage in a conversation. Is it so much to ask that a fellow fan of a comedy cartoon brings his sense of humor to these proceedings?
- by barrytown
- (unregistered id: 936F26E427)
"Brock was reluctant to deliver a killing stroke in front of the young Ventures?" I think if you've been paying attention you should eb aware that Brock is never squeamish. I recall a mention of Brock killing a guy with a sock full of firecrackers? Or quarters? I know there was one mention in Past Tense of Brock killing someone in front of the boys, and another in Eeney Meeney Miney Magic.
- by RetroWarbird
- (unregistered id: 7AC592AD33)
I think the whole "we saw him die like three times!" angle IS what they're poking fun at. In so many B-Movies and C-Movies, especially spy related, we have villainous assassins and henchmen "die", only to turn up later in the movie alive and well.
Actually, that cliche is everywhere these days. In comic books it's so standard that deaths are questioned the second that happen.
Or even the "why won't you just die", "what's it gonna take for you to stay dead/down" angles. Nice to know Brock is way too cool to actually verbalize those cliched lines of dialogue.
Actually, that cliche is everywhere these days. In comic books it's so standard that deaths are questioned the second that happen.
Or even the "why won't you just die", "what's it gonna take for you to stay dead/down" angles. Nice to know Brock is way too cool to actually verbalize those cliched lines of dialogue.
- by wordmaster
- (unregistered id: F511E38F24)
Dude, not everything's a parody. Sometimes the show creates some original material (imagine that!), and in this case they pushed the "unstoppable bad guy" idea to the max. It's a long build-up, plain and simple, that is funny because it keeps going and going. Just laugh! There's not always a deep secret meaning.
- by Shadowman 9 1/2
- (unregistered id: FB2AFA79AF)
Gary Busey - famous actor (Buddy Holly, Lethal Weapon,Point Break,Under Siege)known for REALLY screwing himself up big time in a motorcycle accident in 1998, causing possible brain damage.
More? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Busey
p.s. I'm taking Brock's room if he goes out...as long as Shelia Monarch is still ther on the bed waiting...;-P
More? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Busey
p.s. I'm taking Brock's room if he goes out...as long as Shelia Monarch is still ther on the bed waiting...;-P
- by TeeEl
- (unregistered id: D1251D1E2F)
Excelsior!
I admit I was kind of disappointed. There's been a rising trend of awesomeness throughout this whole season and I feel this episode eased back on the throttle a bit. It's a good episode and has some great moments, but I don't think it matches up to the standard set by Showdown at Cremation Creek.
I admit I was kind of disappointed. There's been a rising trend of awesomeness throughout this whole season and I feel this episode eased back on the throttle a bit. It's a good episode and has some great moments, but I don't think it matches up to the standard set by Showdown at Cremation Creek.
- by Sparky
- (unregistered id: 35170347EB)
I detest Bibleman. He deserves to be mocked.
I'm curious as to what happens the week after next. Jackson doubts the iTunes download will contain the 'holodeck' teaser. Hmm.
The Palm Trees are a give away -- the same motel was used in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
I can take photos of it in a day or two.
I'm curious as to what happens the week after next. Jackson doubts the iTunes download will contain the 'holodeck' teaser. Hmm.
The Palm Trees are a give away -- the same motel was used in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
I can take photos of it in a day or two.
- by Drew McManus
- (unregistered id: F3FAB4D152)
- by cuavsfan
- (unregistered id: 159559D514)
Shirt: Brock? Lots of choices here, but if they wanted to do a Brock shirt (in addition to the bonus one) now would be a good time...
A few more things that haven't been mentioned:
Was (the real) Dr. Mrs. the Monarch making eyes at 21 after the simulation?
Hank quoting HELPER on the coming war between humans and robots.
When Mol attacks Brock Hank forms his hands like a gun and Dean goes with the spiderman hand pose (he is wearing his spierman pjs) as they hide behind the crates.
Hank talking about how he jumped off of the roof as batman.
A few more things that haven't been mentioned:
Was (the real) Dr. Mrs. the Monarch making eyes at 21 after the simulation?
Hank quoting HELPER on the coming war between humans and robots.
When Mol attacks Brock Hank forms his hands like a gun and Dean goes with the spiderman hand pose (he is wearing his spierman pjs) as they hide behind the crates.
Hank talking about how he jumped off of the roof as batman.
- by Josh Geller
- (unregistered id: 7D04F15FF7)
Theoretically (in what we normally call the Real world,) you would read the state of the dead clone's brain and write it onto the new clone's brain, and you would get all memories right up to brain death. It makes sense that these memories would only be accessible during sleep.
This is what I mean by the show getting into unexpectedly deep SF territory.
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This is what I mean by the show getting into unexpectedly deep SF territory.
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- by Mr. Mihocik
- (unregistered id: C3FFD129C3)
Easy Josh. Hank had planned to jump off the roof for days. So this idea was recorded everynight. So when Hank did was recloned, he probably figured that at some point he did jump. Although the memory was still fuzzy.
Also, maybe he jumped and didnt die right away, his memories could have been recorded before he died.
Either way, Hank FTW
Also, maybe he jumped and didnt die right away, his memories could have been recorded before he died.
Either way, Hank FTW
- by butyl dna world
- (unregistered id: F5889CA2A5)
hoping that Herr Trigger comes back as a smashed motorcycle/cyborg hate/extacy mess. Aeon Flux type gun lick in there.
i have the feeling that OSI needs the bad elements of the Calamatous Intent to keep the juicy government money contracts flowing like what the CIA often does with creating problems...to be later funded against with invasions, new military etc.
as seen here:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=history%20of%20the%20CIA&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#
i have the feeling that OSI needs the bad elements of the Calamatous Intent to keep the juicy government money contracts flowing like what the CIA often does with creating problems...to be later funded against with invasions, new military etc.
as seen here:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=history%20of%20the%20CIA&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#
- by haux
- (unregistered id: 0038EDC461)
supa-seksi MC Blackhearts t this week!
and a "boy-beater" for the ladies.
Mrawr~
go.
buy.
now.
http://www.astrobasego.com/shirtoftheweek.html
and a "boy-beater" for the ladies.
Mrawr~
go.
buy.
now.
http://www.astrobasego.com/shirtoftheweek.html
- by haux
- (unregistered id: 0038EDC461)
har
something i missed in the webcast. H21 telling TM what Hatred said:
"I, like Patty Smyth, am a warrior."
Smyth was the front of an 80s band from New York, Scandal. one of their popular songs was The Warrior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_%28band%29
also, in the motel room (which apparently has it's sign pixeled out), when Rusty is calling from the bathtub for the boys to turn down the tv, Le Tueur smashes Brock's head into the tv. and when he asks about the mini-bar, Le Tueur smashes the mini-bar on Brock's head.
nice touches.
something i missed in the webcast. H21 telling TM what Hatred said:
"I, like Patty Smyth, am a warrior."
Smyth was the front of an 80s band from New York, Scandal. one of their popular songs was The Warrior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_%28band%29
also, in the motel room (which apparently has it's sign pixeled out), when Rusty is calling from the bathtub for the boys to turn down the tv, Le Tueur smashes Brock's head into the tv. and when he asks about the mini-bar, Le Tueur smashes the mini-bar on Brock's head.
nice touches.
- by Phil
- (unregistered id: 4453D1431A)
Am I late to the party? Yeah, I thought so.
Full review up on www.noisetosignal.org
Can't wait for next week!
Full review up on www.noisetosignal.org
Can't wait for next week!
- by Sparky
- (unregistered id: 35170347EB)
The pixelated sign can't hide that the motel is between Colorado and Santa Monica Blvds. on Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica.
It was used in a couple of movies and shows up in more than one Spy Thriller paperback - including the turgid "Red Dragon" ...
and no one is calling you late.
It was used in a couple of movies and shows up in more than one Spy Thriller paperback - including the turgid "Red Dragon" ...
and no one is calling you late.
- by haux
- (unregistered id: 0038EDC461)
hmm. where are you getting that location? are there some street signs in the eisode i didn't see? or is it recognizable from other movies/shows?
the only thing like that motel in that location that i can find with google maps/streetview is the Pacific Sands:
(long url coming up, not sure if it will work)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ocean+avenue,+santa+monica&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.310143,79.277344&ie=UTF8&ll=34.012691,-118.496156&spn=0.001654,0.002419&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=34.012344,-118.49604&panoid=xr_2tc71FaoGB8jlOoELMg&cbp=1,52.600223808602834,,0,-2.726595951471955
and at least one Yelp reviewer says they got bedbugs.
the only thing like that motel in that location that i can find with google maps/streetview is the Pacific Sands:
(long url coming up, not sure if it will work)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ocean+avenue,+santa+monica&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.310143,79.277344&ie=UTF8&ll=34.012691,-118.496156&spn=0.001654,0.002419&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=34.012344,-118.49604&panoid=xr_2tc71FaoGB8jlOoELMg&cbp=1,52.600223808602834,,0,-2.726595951471955
and at least one Yelp reviewer says they got bedbugs.
- by haux
- (unregistered id: 0038EDC461)
ok, this tinyurl might work
http://tinyurl.com/psands-goog
http://tinyurl.com/psands-goog
- by Sparky
- (unregistered id: 35170347EB)
- by BlueInfinite
- (unregistered id: 68E8F5B1AA)
- by Jay
- (unregistered id: E7AF6EC90E)
So... OSI tried to get Brock's car to kill him, and then sent 3 assasins to do the job just because Brock didn't properly enter the code for advanced security clearance? Seems a bit harsh. Am I missing another, more severe infraction by Brock that warranted such a reaction by OSI?
- by Shadowman 9 1/2
- (unregistered id: D2E513867A)
Possibly on "ORB" he was ordered to take out Dr. Venture if he ever found it? However, seeing that Rusty had little or no clue what to do with it, he left him alone.
I know at my job they will kill you for incomplete assignments.
p.s. Anyone want the poster(s) in Brock's Room? I feel like changing the decor a bit.
I know at my job they will kill you for incomplete assignments.
p.s. Anyone want the poster(s) in Brock's Room? I feel like changing the decor a bit.
- by DeimosMasque
- (unregistered id: DD74F4CF47)
Its not that he failed to enter a proper code. It's that he told his computer to search for "Bodyguard Termination Orders" he meant "What am I supposed to Terminate," since he didn't know what Sando meant yet. The computer however thought he meant "Terminate the Bodyguard"
So when he entered his code, it "Terminated" him. OSI recieved the Terminate order as well and when they realized his car didn't kill him they sent assassins.
It's really straight forward and I don't see why so many people have had this problem.
So when he entered his code, it "Terminated" him. OSI recieved the Terminate order as well and when they realized his car didn't kill him they sent assassins.
It's really straight forward and I don't see why so many people have had this problem.
- by Phil
- (unregistered id: 4453D1431A)
I'm willing to accept that, but you have to admit it raises the question of why he never even tries to explain (to Molotov or anyone else) that it was just a mistake. Even if it didn't work it certainly would have been worth trying before he dragged the Ventures across the country with three of the world's deadliest assassins in tow!
- by DeimosMasque
- (unregistered id: DD74F4CF47)
Because it's OSI... They don't ask questions, its the same reason that Hunter ran off to have his sex change and they tried to kill him.
Besides, Brock knows better than to try to explain things to OSI. I mean, if the guy you were told to kill called you and said it was a mistake... would you believe him?
OSI's reaction to the termination order is basically a critique on what most government agencies do when they get an order... they do it. They don't question it, they don't clarify it, they just do it.
Besides, Brock knows better than to try to explain things to OSI. I mean, if the guy you were told to kill called you and said it was a mistake... would you believe him?
OSI's reaction to the termination order is basically a critique on what most government agencies do when they get an order... they do it. They don't question it, they don't clarify it, they just do it.
- by Phil
- (unregistered id: 4453D1431A)
Eh. I'd be willing to accept that, but I'm surprised the show hasn't actually addressed it. It seems a bit passive for that to be an intentional critique of government agencies.
Doesn't Venture want to know why Brock is being hounded? Or the boys? And without a doubt Molotov would have heard him out--she respects him enough.
I'm just surprised that if that's all it was--a simple error on Brock's part--that the show wouldn't have anyone question it. Seems odd to me, and it kind of borders on sloppy writing.
Doesn't Venture want to know why Brock is being hounded? Or the boys? And without a doubt Molotov would have heard him out--she respects him enough.
I'm just surprised that if that's all it was--a simple error on Brock's part--that the show wouldn't have anyone question it. Seems odd to me, and it kind of borders on sloppy writing.
- by DeimosMasque
- (unregistered id: DD74F4CF47)
"And without a doubt Molotov would have heard him out--she respects him enough. "
Why would she actually care? She didn't take the contract so she's not after him, she was only warning them.
As for the Dr. Venture and the boys, they just really haven't had the time yet. Hell, Dr. Venture thought the assassins were after all of them until Brock corrected him.
Why would she actually care? She didn't take the contract so she's not after him, she was only warning them.
As for the Dr. Venture and the boys, they just really haven't had the time yet. Hell, Dr. Venture thought the assassins were after all of them until Brock corrected him.
- by Mike
- (unregistered id: 027D18FA77)
I'm honestly not sure that's it. He did ask the computer for the termination clause but I am thinking he wasn't supposed to know about ORB. The OSI never informed him what his real mission was, and he only learned through very convoluted means. He was also given very specific orders to watch the patch of grass where Sandow's instructions were buried, which I assume means he was not supposed to let anyone dig that up. All this time Operation Rusty's Blanket was there to prevent Rusty from activating ORB, should he have actually found it.
What I think, however, is once Brock discovered ORB, if he did kill Doc then he would also know what ORB was and OSI would want him out of the picture so he couldn't use it. That's my assumption anyway. I don't think this whole thing is a weird mix-up (though that would be pretty amusing), but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
What I think, however, is once Brock discovered ORB, if he did kill Doc then he would also know what ORB was and OSI would want him out of the picture so he couldn't use it. That's my assumption anyway. I don't think this whole thing is a weird mix-up (though that would be pretty amusing), but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
- by Kecef
- (unregistered id: AE640C29E3)
As to why Brock didnt tell anyone what's exactly happening I think he just can't. He would have to bring out the subject of the orb. If any member of the Venture family knew that his bodyguard will kill him if he tries to activate the orb, then things would get too complicated. OSI in fear that doc would try to run away and activate it in secret, would surely just kill the whole venture family.
- by Sparky
- (unregistered id: 35170347EB)
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