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  • by Josh Geller
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More Triggermensch wierdness: at the very end of the car chase scene, Brock and Hank are getting on the X-1, TM is lying there in the burning oil slick, screaming in agony. They take off, there he is, unburnt, giggling, with an antiaircraft missile maybe four feet long that he pulled out of his butt and uses to shoot down the X-1. Finally, the escape pod that we saw used in the Unterland sequence lands on the booger, crushing and silencing him.

OK, now, I am all with the cartoon-reality-is-different-from-reality-reality bit. But this is a bit extreme. Is there some pop culture reference that my 25 years spent avoiding televisions has left me unequipped to handle?

And who the heck is Gary Busey (sp?)?


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Aug. 16, 2008, 2:29pm
  • by General Treister
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Still a bit fixated on Herr Trigger's hardware there, aren't you? The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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Aug. 16, 2008, 7:24pm
  • by Josh Geller
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I don't understand your remark, sir, would you kindly expand upon it?

My point is that the man was shown to die at least twice, maybe three times (beaten to death with his own rifle, hit in the breadbasket with Brock's knife, burned - maybe not to death, but enough to scream in agony - in the oil slick) before finally(?) being crushed by the X-1's escape pod.


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Aug. 16, 2008, 11:53pm
  • by General Treister
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I only meant that for a guy who wonders why they depict Trigger as such a fetishist, you seem a little preoccupied with his specific weapons, their size, and what part of his body he might be pulling them from. But in terms of his staying power, we never necessarily saw him take a lethal blow at any point until the end. He's knocked unconscious twice, stabbed in the gut once--perhaps Brock was reluctant to deliver a killing stroke in front of the young Ventures?--then he survives a crash and some burning, which people have been known to do. Far fetched, sure, but not for a cartoon. I've seen crazier in live action movies that are supposed to be taken seriously.
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Aug. 17, 2008, 2:44am
  • by Josh Geller
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Oh I see. You are implying that I am a fetishist such as Herr TM. I am not sure why you would say such a thing. I could speculate why, but I have better things to do.

Whatever your motivation, I fear that this indicates that you are not someone who can be constructively engaged in conversation, at least not in this matter.

I do wish you the greatest joy.


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Aug. 17, 2008, 6:52am
  • by Pirate Hippy
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Actually I think General Treister was poking fun at your inability to get the joke, such that he had to explain it to you.
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Aug. 17, 2008, 12:13pm
  • by Josh Geller
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I don't think that is what he was doing, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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Aug. 17, 2008, 1:49pm
  • by haux
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"entitled to their own opinion..."
"wish you greatest joy..."
"bless his heart..."
"if you say so..."

these are all passive-aggressive ways of saying "i disagree. stfu"
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Aug. 17, 2008, 9:15pm
  • by Josh Geller
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Pardon me?

I disagreed before I said that.

I am just being polite.

Previously, it seemed (and still seems) to me that Generai Treiser was trying to insult me. So I gave him a chance to say that is not what he was doing, which he did not. So I told him I don't want to talk to him (there is no percentage in having a conversation with someone whose opening is an insult, and it is unpleasant to boot), and wished him well, because I don't really have anything against him (I don't know him): I just don't want to talk to him.

Also, I do not believe that the term 'passive-aggressive' means what you seem to think it means:

"Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as learned helplessness, procrastination, stubbornness, resentment, sullenness, or deliberate/repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible."

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior

Is there anything else that I can clarify for you?

I hope that you have a wonderful evening and that everything you wish for occurs in the way you wish it to occur.


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Aug. 18, 2008, 12:34am
  • by haux
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

i imagine you'll disagree.

keep on keepin' on.
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Aug. 18, 2008, 2:37am
  • by Josh Geller
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I am quite certain that I have Asperger's Syndrome or some other form of high-functioning autism. There are several.

In fact, I just had my doctors set up neuropsych testing to diagnose it.




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Aug. 18, 2008, 6:02am
  • by jeff
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i just wanted to reply to this to see how narrow we could get
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Aug. 18, 2008, 4:53pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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That is an interesting thing to know for sure.
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Aug. 18, 2008, 7:42pm
  • by Josh Geller
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On John Crowley's blog we got it down to a column of single words once.

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Aug. 18, 2008, 7:52pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Well that's just fantastic
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Aug. 18, 2008, 8:39pm
  • by Josh Geller
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We're down to a column of six to eight words here now. I think that is pretty impressive.

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Aug. 18, 2008, 9:36pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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It is definitely pretty impressive. But hat does it say about us when you consider we will spend our valuable time trying to do this?
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Aug. 18, 2008, 10:21pm
  • by Josh Geller
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Dude.

We are frequent posters to a cartoon fan website. What more can be said about us that hasn't already been said?


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Aug. 18, 2008, 10:36pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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This is a very true statement. Well I could say I also do cosplay photography for a nude website, enjoy White Wolf Roleplaying Games and am a Libertarian.
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Aug. 18, 2008, 10:45pm
  • by Josh Geller
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I am into more other things than I could easily mention here. Horticulture, astronomy, alchemy, history, politics, aircraft design....


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Aug. 19, 2008, 1:25am
Some of us are obsessed with Pop Culture TV references popping up in a beloved cartoon show.

The only politics that should be relevant here are whether those of a 10 year old Rusty are the same now.

Such as his belief that then President Nixon should give haircuts to the Herculoids and send them to Vietnam to fight the war.

I could be wrong though.
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Aug. 19, 2008, 7:48am
  • by Josh Geller
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At some point in 'Guess Who's Coming To State Dinner', Brock mentions that all Congressmen are 'former ____'s and astronauts'. Of course in our World they are mostly lawyers.

So columns of three and four words, anyone?

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Aug. 19, 2008, 1:43pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Actually we have alot of C-List Actors and Former Astronauts in the House of Reps. It's the Senate that is mostly lawyers.
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Aug. 19, 2008, 5:34pm
  • by Josh Geller
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That is the actual quote then? C-list actors and former astronauts? Thank you. I am happy now.

Two and three word columns.


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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:05pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Yeah it's an actual quote, and it's actually more true than most people realize.
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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:12pm
  • by cgeye
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And remember Rusty's Herculoids' belief was most likely received from his dad, who probably encouraged him to send the letter as a 'out of the mouth of babes' statement....
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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:54pm
  • by Josh Geller
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So I suppose that the D-list actors are all in the various state legislatures and county and municipal governments. We are getting down there, ladies and gentlemen. Very close to there.

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Aug. 19, 2008, 11:03pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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No D-List actors get stupid reality shows on Bravo. Interetingly enough state governments usually get B-List to A-List actors.
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Aug. 19, 2008, 11:18pm
  • by Josh Geller
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What about the E-list actors? Dare I ask? Do I really want to know? And are these all SAG actors, or are there, like, some pornostars and off-broadway amateurs and actors who only appear in commercials and actors who act like they got various ailments to train doctors (Mother does that)?

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Aug. 20, 2008, 5:16am
I adore voice actors. I bump into one all the time at work - Dante Basco. He's very hip.
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Aug. 20, 2008, 9:19am
We get some fun actors at work. One James Bond, a truly fun comedian, a definitive Fiddler, and tons of truly bizarre TV personalities who will occassionally grace our shop.
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Aug. 20, 2008, 9:29am
  • by DeimosMasque
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A serverhouse I onced worked for we had a surprise. Turns out one of our servers was owned by "Macho Man" Randy Savage. Suddenly he came over the intercom and was "Oh, yeah... I'm hear about my server"
It was weird because his voice sounds exactly like it does on TV.
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Aug. 20, 2008, 5:37pm
Cool. Server farms can be fun. I think I tracked down the motel being between the 1400 to 1600 block of Ocean Ave.
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Aug. 21, 2008, 11:02am
  • by Pvt. Schwa
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How thin do you think this will go?
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Aug. 21, 2008, 10:45pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Only one way to find out now isn't there.
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Aug. 21, 2008, 11:12pm
I'm game.
Who's a famous voice actor you'd like to hear on the show?

I think good old Ed Asner is the only radio star I'm aware of the transitioned into TV as an actor and VO performer. He did Hal Jordon and was wonderful as Grany Goodness. Input?
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Aug. 22, 2008, 2:06am
  • by DeimosMasque
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Crispen Freedman or Scott McNeil would be really cool to do.
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Aug. 22, 2008, 2:51am
Heh. You think? They both seem to mainstream for VB.
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Aug. 22, 2008, 8:32pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Why does Mainstream = Bad?
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Aug. 23, 2008, 1:20am
not bad, but they might be uninterested.
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Aug. 23, 2008, 10:03am
  • by DeimosMasque
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true but then again if we were only going with interested we'd never find any.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 7:29pm
  • by ook ook
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Whats the website?
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Aug. 19, 2008, 8:26pm
  • by DeimosMasque
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Was that directed at me?
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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:11pm
  • by General Treister
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You asked me to kindly expand on my remark! So I did! And then moved on to address the rest of your entry and offer a counter-interpretation of the events of the episode. Which is a fairly constructive way to engage in a conversation. Is it so much to ask that a fellow fan of a comedy cartoon brings his sense of humor to these proceedings?
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Aug. 17, 2008, 9:09pm
  • by barrytown
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"Brock was reluctant to deliver a killing stroke in front of the young Ventures?" I think if you've been paying attention you should eb aware that Brock is never squeamish. I recall a mention of Brock killing a guy with a sock full of firecrackers? Or quarters? I know there was one mention in Past Tense of Brock killing someone in front of the boys, and another in Eeney Meeney Miney Magic.
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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:25am
  • by Joe
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Gary Busey is an actor.

"On December 4, 1988, Busey was severely injured in a motorcycle accident in which he was not wearing a helmet. His skull was fractured and doctors feared he suffered permanent brain damage."
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Aug. 16, 2008, 9:42pm
  • by crete
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the joke being that afterwards, he was (is) a man of questionable appearance and sanity.
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Aug. 17, 2008, 12:33am
  • by RetroWarbird
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I think the whole "we saw him die like three times!" angle IS what they're poking fun at. In so many B-Movies and C-Movies, especially spy related, we have villainous assassins and henchmen "die", only to turn up later in the movie alive and well.

Actually, that cliche is everywhere these days. In comic books it's so standard that deaths are questioned the second that happen.

Or even the "why won't you just die", "what's it gonna take for you to stay dead/down" angles. Nice to know Brock is way too cool to actually verbalize those cliched lines of dialogue.
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Aug. 17, 2008, 12:54am
  • by Josh Geller
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Gotcha.

Orpheus, JT and the second blacula.


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Aug. 17, 2008, 2:37am
  • by CableKC
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Minor thing...but this is another time that the writers incorporated a "Do you want to end up like >? reference. The other time was when Rusty told Hank to put on Pimple cream. When Hank balked.....Rusty said "Do you want to end up like Edward James Olmos?"
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Aug. 19, 2008, 4:14am
  • by wordmaster
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Dude, not everything's a parody. Sometimes the show creates some original material (imagine that!), and in this case they pushed the "unstoppable bad guy" idea to the max. It's a long build-up, plain and simple, that is funny because it keeps going and going. Just laugh! There's not always a deep secret meaning.
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Aug. 18, 2008, 7:25am
  • by Shadowman 9 1/2
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Gary Busey - famous actor (Buddy Holly, Lethal Weapon,Point Break,Under Siege)known for REALLY screwing himself up big time in a motorcycle accident in 1998, causing possible brain damage.

More? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Busey

p.s. I'm taking Brock's room if he goes out...as long as Shelia Monarch is still ther on the bed waiting...;-P
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Aug. 19, 2008, 10:56am

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