The Mantis-Eye Experiment

Mantis-Eye Presents: Ask Jackson & Doc Interview

Back during New York Comic-Con 2011 I had the opportunity to ask Jackson and Doc some reader submitted questions about the show or really anything else they wanted. If you're interested this interview is also available partially in video and in its entirety as a podcast. This is a slightly edited transcript of the podcast version for those who just want to read something. This interview was conducted on October 17th, 2011 just outside Madison Square Park in Manhattan, New York.

Mantis-Eye

Okay. First questions is, "Do you guys think you'll ever record more Shallow Gravy music?"

Jackson Publick

It's probably inevitable.

Doc Hammer

I'm sure it will happen. It's not something that we've put on the to-do list. But, Shallow Gravy didn't breakup. That would be an episode. And, if we had a Shallow Gravy breakup episode, there would be a song involved. Then, there would be a song involved for their reunion, because local bands breakup and reunite like the big bands.

Jackson

There would probably be some solo efforts too. [laughs]

Doc

Yeah. And there would be solo efforts.

Jackson

HELPeR's solo record...

Doc

As a matter of fact, a reunion tour before they do any kind of...they should breakup immediately and reunite. Dermott might learn to play guitar just kind of round the band out, because it's hard to write for just base. Let's be honest.

Jackson

No, but well, Hatred plays guitar, 21 plays guitar.

Doc

[Dermott voice] I don't want a fucking grown-up in the band. That's lame.

Jackson

Just saying. We cut out a line about Dean and his Ocarina, right?

Doc

Yeah, I did. Dean could do an Ocarina solo.

Jackson

Yeah.

Mantis-Eye

Is there a band with an Ocarina player?

Doc

There will be. Shallow Gravy.

Mantis-Eye

Robert asks, Jackson recently said that he and Doc were writing some amazing stuff. What do they feel is really driving this great writing? And collectively, what has kept the show so strong in terms of quality, humor, and characterization for roughly seven years now?

[Doc motions his hand between himself and Jackson]

Jackson

Yeah, the magical alchemy. [laughs]

Doc

Yeah, that certain what do you call it in French?

Jackson

What's driving it now? Being away from it for a while, and being sick of doing everything but this? Which always helps? Which is maybe why I suffered so much in season four, we never had that period between, when I had to freelance to pay my rent? I was just doing story-boards. Going, "I really wish I was doing Venture Bros." Also, when we wrote the finale together, that actually planted the seeds of like, three or four scripts that we're working on this year because of...

Doc

[loudly sneezes] Oh God! It's allergies. Flora.

Jackson

Bless you. We hadn't written together all year. Yeah, so, we got together to write the finale and the magic was back.

Doc

Reinvigorated. Fell back in love with the characters. Came up with like 10 story-lines that we may or may not do. Just a lot of time to hang out, and when you hang out, as you witnessed before, we start speaking in character and we just create something we love.

Jackson

Also, I got to see a lot of movies and read a lot of books this year. That helps.

Doc

I don't go to the movie theater.

Jackson

I know.

Mantis-Eye

So, are you guys worried that the same thing might happen between seasons five and six? Or something like that?

Doc

We're actually just trying to see if we can keep going.

Jackson

Yeah. We want to see how fast we can roll from one to the other. The whole problem is just how hard the show is to make and how the way we staff things and just the process before, just takes so much out of us. It's like we're writing for a bunch of months. But then it's like, 9, 10 months of production where I'm there every day working like 12 hours a day, and then we're in post, and we're both working like crazy. And so, by the time you're done it's been a year since you wrote anything. And there was no time to write anything. And you're just exhausted.

Doc

Yet you've still been working on the Venture Bros. the entire time.

Photo Credit: Shannon Cottrell

Jackson

Yeah, you've been working on the Venture Bros. and you're exhausted, and last thing you want to do is the Venture Bros. So, we're hopefully going to get some help directing. We're hopefully going to have just better and better artists that need less supervision, people who can just kind of read your mind a little more. I don't know. We got a better budget, so we're trying to do a better system. Titmouse has made a lot of stuff in house and they have a lot of ideas about how to streamline processes even though we're not going to be making it in house.

We're hoping that it all goes better, and starting with more scripts is a big deal too. We used to always start with four scripts because then, once you're directing you can only write on the weekends and at night and stuff like that, and it sucks.

We never started with four scripts either. We started with like two because the production company was like, "We need to start. We told people they were starting. Also, we're out of money, so, we need Venture Bros. money." So, that's not going to happen this year.

Doc

Yeah, we're trying new things. I think it will be good. We just picked up two sweet offices.

Jackson

Yeah, we just came from what's going to be our new office space in a month.

Mantis-Eye

Is that the new [Astro]Base?

Jackson

The new Titmouse.

Doc

The new Titmouse. The Base is the old Base.

Jackson

Yeah.

Mantis-Eye

Carrie C. asks, "What kind of advice would you give to a writer trying to create a good story like yours?"

Jackson

[laughs]

Doc

This is my advice for anybody who thinks they have a great idea. Just do it. Just go ahead and go as far forward with the idea as you can. Don't wait around for somebody to finance it. Just do it. If it's good, somebody will find out about it, and you'll start getting help. To have just a kernel of an idea and then run around trying to sell it is no way to do it. Just move forward. Keep moving forward and eventually, if it's truly a good idea, people will come to it. If she wants to write a good script, write a good script.

Jackson

[laughs] Yeah, we can't tell you how to write a good script other than write the first 50 bad scripts and then, you'll be better by the end.

Doc

Yeah, be okay with writing crap, and then keep moving forward. Judge your own stuff harshly. Don't believe in other people's criticisms either. Be your own tough critic.

Jackson

Right.

Doc

Other people will tell you their agenda, and it's not helpful. If you can't criticize your own work, you might not be a writer. It's possible.

Mantis-Eye

One guy just wants to know when you're going to kill [Kim] off?

Jackson

There's no point.

Doc

We kind of did. We sent her to Florida to rehab. That's as good as killing off.

Jackson

That is a death of sorts. Now, we have to bring her back.

Doc

Yeah.

Jackson

Now that we've just put the kibosh on her, we're going to have to challenge ourselves to do it. And now, that I've said that, people will demand it and we'll go back to not doing it.

Mantis-Eye

If more people ask, then it's like...?

Jackson

Yeah, I think we should have Orpheus adopt Kim now. You know?

Doc

Yeah, maybe what's his name, Jefferson Twilight, can date Kim.

Jackson

[laughs]

Doc

What do you call those? May-December? What is that one called? Yeah, why not? Why not?

Mantis-Eye

Here's a random one: which relationship is more strained? Jonas Venture Jr., with his in-laws, or the Monarch with his in-laws?

Jackson

Oh, Sally's parents? Is he married yet? Did we actually marry them? I don't think so.

Doc

He could have been married in some weird ethnic way on the island.

Jackson

Well, then maybe we need to see that.

Doc

Yeah. Don't you think he'd have this weird Indian ceremony?

Jackson

Yeah, maybe up on Gargantua maybe.

Doc

This inexplicable Indian ceremony. [Jonas Jr. voice] I'm wearing the bear pelt.

Jackson

[Jonas Jr. voice] Combining all faiths. We don't want to offend anyone. [back to normal] Actually, Monarch with his in-laws, that would be pretty hot because he's a pain in the ass son-in-law. He would not handle that well. We haven't touched on her parents, yet.

Doc

We haven't extended their family.

Jackson

We talked about it.

Doc

We talk about it a lot.

Jackson

Yeah. It's been a couple of years, but we used to talk about it a lot. That would be more fun. Monarch's just a more fun character to put in a situation like that anyway.

Doc

Any domestic situation with the Monarch is funny.

Jackson

Yeah. [Monarch voice] I just put the glass down, she's fucking washing it already.

Jackson

Yeah, exactly.

Doc

[Monarch voice] She's in the kitchen washing it. I wasn't done. She's killing me.

Mantis-Eye

Anna Marie asks if Doc has any plans on releasing Weep on vinyl?

Doc

What a strange question. The next record we do, because what's the point of making CDs? Everybody likes to download. What I hear people do now, is they make a very small vinyl release with a download information in the vinyl or you just can just get the download information. I like the idea of vinyl, and to do a small release. So, the next record, the one that I'm working on now, I might actually release on vinyl, strangely enough, or cassette.

Jackson

A single.

Doc

The thing about vinyl that I like is it's a larger place for artwork, and as an object that is representational of music, it's a more successful object, whereas a cassette kind of blows.

Jackson

Cassettes always blew.

Doc

They blew.

Jackson

Even when they were the newest technology, they were horrible.

Doc

They were horrible.

Jackson

I always hated them.

Doc

Yeah, I might actually do that, because a very small amount of people are still tied to their CD players. Most people have moved on to iPods and stuff. There are lot more vinyl collectors, and I like the medium more. I like the idea that it's a physical representation, not a digital representation of it. So, yeah, why not? Maybe I will.

Jackson

Put season five out on vinyl.

Doc

Yeah, we can put full season Venture Bros., see if we can get the Peter Pan people, they're out in New Jersey, to do a book and record set. Beep, turn the page.

Mantis-Eye

Oh, and she also asks if Shallow Gravy will ever perform live?

Doc

I will give you a spoiler. My band Weep has learned...

Jackson

Jacket?

Doc

Jacket. Which doesn't include, it's only keyboards, drums, and bass, that is the lineup of Shallow Gravy. One of these days, we'll do a Weep show. Jackson will get dragged out on stage and we'll video tape it. Whoever is there is there. I smell special feature, live Jacket.

Jackson

I'm going to have to get a neckerchief.

Doc

Yeah. I'll keep a Dermott leather jacket, no, he wears a denim jacket.

Jackson

It looks like an army thing.

Doc

I'll keep a quality version of that off to the side of the stage. You never know when it's going to happen, but we'll probably do it live, yeah. They do know it. My band does know the song. It sounds hilarious live.

Jackson

We meant to do it acapella at the convention.

Doc

Yes, we ran out of-

Jackson

We forgot to do it because it was on that list of questions that we didn't feel like answering. And, I forgot one of them was "Can you sing Jacket for us right now?" And, we brought the lyrics to do that. We just forgot in all the chaos of the day.

Doc

The hubbub.

Mantis-Eye

This guy Jason asked three questions.

Jackson

We'll see about that.

Mantis-Eye

He wants to know if you prefer crackers and cheese or salted potato chips. What is your savory snack of choice?

Doc

Oh, wow. I used to like potato chips but I don't eat fried foods now. So, I like bread and cheese.

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

Like a bread.

Jackson

I go with the cracker and cheese too.

Doc

You like a cracker?

Jackson

A good cracker, sure.

Doc

You like flavored crackers or like a...?

Jackson

Sometimes.

Doc

Like a table water cracker?

Jackson

Depends on the cheese.

Doc

Do you want a vegetable cracker, then cheese on it?

Jackson

That's nice too.

Doc

You like Brie?

Jackson

I love Brie, yes.

Doc

You like Brie, I know that. I like Brie. It's a little sweet. I like...there's a cheese like an aged Gouda, like a cave aged Gouda and at my market they don't write cave, they say cage aged which is wrong. But, they've never changed it on their price gun. So, I have stuff that's aged in a cage.

Jackson

I'll tell you what I like, a Tamari Almond.

Doc

Really?

Jackson

Yeah. Those are a great...

Doc

I like old Gouda. There's a cheese called Rembrandt which is I started eating because it was called Rembrandt.

Jackson

I do love potato chips though. I try to avoid them.

Doc

Flavored?

Jackson

Yeah, like those Kettle ones that are, yeah.

Doc

Like a barbecue or like...?

Jackson

The New York Cheddar.

Doc

Oh, Cheddars.

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

I like the barbecue chips, I'll be honest with you.

Jackson

I don't get the barbecue. Everybody loves the barbecue chip.

Doc

I like a barbecue chip.

Jackson

I've never been into them.

Doc

Not like a KC Masterpiece. They were super sweet. They're nasty, but I like your basic barbecue chip.

Jackson

Right. I like a Sour Cream and Onion and then a pack of gum afterwards.

Doc

[groans] Oh, have you ever smoked and ate a potato chip at the same time? It's horrible.

Jackson

I don't see a possible...I haven't...

Doc

It's horrible. Smoking goes with not that many foods. It goes with every beverage, though, except for milk. But, I don't drink milk. Because I smoke.

Jackson

[laughs] One vice at a time.

Mantis-Eye

He also wants to know how your dog is?

Jackson

My dog?

Mantis-Eye

Yeah.

Jackson

My dog's a fucking asshole. She is. She's horrible, she's horrible. She's got so much personality that you forgive it and she's silly looking and...

Doc

She's got so much...

Jackson

She's really entertaining sometimes.

Doc

She's your dog. You forgive her.

Jackson

Man, we wanted to kill her last night. She panics all the time. She insists on sleeping, you have to make a four shape out of your legs and she insists on sleeping in that triangle. Then, any noise, she goes... And flips out. She's got these stick legs and just stomp on your balls. It's like somebody has just taken a pool cue and man, it's like the end of Casino Royale. So, that sucks and then, if you eat food around her, for two hours she's like looking for food. She's like just single minded and distracted.

Doc

You brought this into your life.

Jackson

I know and then shits...

Doc

You feed this and keep it alive.

Jackson

...on the floor. My girlfriend didn't see it. She's like putting the laundry away and my girlfriend had just gone, "Hey, can I borrow your pajama pants?" And, I went, "Sure." And, of course, they're big on her. So, big floppy cuffs dragging through the dog shit while my girlfriend puts the laundry away without seeing the dog shit.

Doc

That's disgusting. I was thinking of getting a dog now that my cat died.

Jackson

I'm not a big fan of my dog at this particular moment. But gosh, I love her when I look into those eyes. I just can't stay mad at her.

Mantis-Eye

And he also wants to know how many suits Doc owns?

Doc

Wow.

Jackson

Pushing 20 aren't you?

Doc

I'm pushing 30.

Jackson

Really?

Doc

Yeah, I got about 30. A lot of suits. I just had another one made a few days ago because I realize that all my suits are fun suits, they're like play suits.

Jackson

You're going to have a funeral service.

Doc

I was looking for a black suit, like a regular black suit. Which I don't say black, I say, "Blahck." I don't know why.

Jackson

Because, you think its racist? So, you got to go, [whispers] "Black."

Doc

No. I don't think its racist. I just like the sound of "blah".

Jackson

Yeah. Because you're a Dracula fan.

Doc

So, I recently had like a super staid classic suit. I went with three buttons, if you care, which are not the happening button position right now. But it's the classic button position. So, three never goes out of style. You can button on two, and roll your third if you want to. But three is the suit. That's like the old school of mad man suit, three buttons. So, I went with the three. I went with a double vent in the back instead of a single, where usually I go with a single because I like that '60s look.

But, I did go nuts on the pocket. Instead of getting a flap and a ticket, which is like the British way, I went with just the double bosom, which is a slit. And then, I had velvet on because I can't go not fancy.

Photo Credits: smudgethezombie, Doc s Facebook, Tim Shey

Jackson

That's the one you wore at the convention.

Doc

No what? It's being made right now.

Jackson

Oh. That was a pretty normal...

Doc

The convention was a tux. Oh no, that had a shawl collar, '60s tux with a rose grain collar with no notch. It's a shawl.

Jackson

I maybe have only a half a dozen suits.

Doc

That's a lot.

Jackson

And I can't fit into some of them. I always end up buying suits when I'm at my thinnest and then I gain 15 pounds.

Doc

And now you can't wear your suits.

Jackson

Yeah. I can't wear like five of my suits.

Doc

Well, six is a lot of suits for a guy to have. Your basic business man has three. And that's a guy that wears a suit all the time. Thirty is nuts but I love suits.

Mantis-Eye

Tarome asks if Ben Edlund will be writing more episodes in the future?

Jackson

No plans for that. He's still our friend. I run stories by him and pick his brain once in a while, but he's super busy and lives in LA. I mean, we wouldn't say, "No." But nobody's like, "Hey, you got to write a script." And he's got other stuff on his plate right now.

Doc

He's a busy man. But he is also one of our closest friends. His hand is always at least, a shadow of it, is always in our world.

Jackson

Yeah. We kind of came up with the episode you're writing at his house sort of.

Doc

A little bit. We were just riffing on that. Yeah.

Jackson

After San Diego Comic-Con, we were at his house riffing with Ben. And, there's a new story.

Doc

The way Ben riffs is to just laugh at our jokes so we know when they're good. He's not big with adding but, he just likes to giggle. You'd like Ben. He's an amazingly pleasant person. Super bright.

Mantis-Eye

Phil asks, if you could rewrite a scene or joke from season one or two, what would you rewrite and why?

Doc

I would reanimate...

Jackson

The yard sale.

Doc

...Tag Sale -- You're It", yeah. And I would probably...

Jackson

I would reanimate the Mars sequence.

Doc

Yeah, fuck...

Jackson

Because that's one of my favorite things we ever did, but I'm not happy with the animation.

Doc

Yes, and it's something you don't want to play, it's just...It looks all right. We're not saying the animation is bad.

Jackson

I would reanimate, what was it, "Hate Floats"? That's that whole episode, isn't it?

Doc

Yeah.

Jackson

Yes, a crappy-looking episode with a really good script.

Doc

An episode that doesn't get enough kudos. I like "Hate Floats". That's the one where they play charades, right?

Jackson

No, that's "Home Is Where the Hate Is". That episode's gorgeous. I'm talking about the one with the mall and the Wusthofs and again.

Doc

Oh, the mall. Fuck, oh God.

Jackson

And that's the one that has Mars in it. And it's just a lumpy- looking...

Doc

Off-model Dr. Girlfriend. It's awful.

Jackson

Yes, it's got the boys driving with Dr. Girlfriend. Like, that script was really good.

Doc

Shit, you're right.

Jackson

Our reads are really good in that one.

Doc

Oh, I would probably punch up to "Careers in Science", the first one that I wrote.

Jackson

All right, then I guess I'm obligated to say The White House [ed: "Guess Who's Coming To State Dinner?"]. [laughs] Another good-looking episode that...

Doc

Yes, if you just included the Monarch, everybody would love it.

Jackson

Yes, I know. [laughs] Yes, give all of Manstrong's mom's lines to him.

Doc

To the Monarch.

Jackson

Yes. [laughs]

Doc

Who was his college friend? Just find a way to wedge him in there.

Jackson

Poor Manstrong.

Doc

I'll make a Manstrong script that is good, I promise you. I will happen!

Mantis-Eye

Red Menace asks, what kind of project would you like to do next?

Doc

Besides the Liam Neeson fighting vehicle?

Jackson

Yeah, the Liam Neeson feature film.

Doc

We're invigorated by the genre of old guy that fights people. Liam Neeson is pioneering old guy fighting people vehicles. I wanted...Remember Hanna when I though Hanna was that kind of movie?

Jackson

Oh, right.

Doc

And you couldn't convince me that Hanna wasn't...?

Jackson

That it was about a little girl.

Doc

Not even a little girl,that it was a...Who was the woman in that? Cate Blanchett?

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

I thought it was Cate Blanchett fighting people like Taken. That's what I thought Hanna was. I still kind of do, because I haven't seen it yet.

Jackson

I thought you did.

Doc

I want to see a Cate Blanchett martial art film where Cate Blanchett just fights people.

Jackson

I think she runs around with a gun and she does some chasing, but I don't think she does any martial arts.

Doc

Like a Lifetime "Who Stole My Daughter" movie...?

Jackson

Right.

Doc

But it's Cate...

Jackson

But with a female...

Doc

Yes, Cate Blanchett just beating shit up because someone took her daughter.

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

And sold her into pornography.

Jackson

What's the Jodie Foster revenge gun movie?

Doc

Witness?

Jackson

No. What's that one called?

Doc

Is Lukas Haas in it and he plays a...?

Jackson

I think it's called Old Glory. No. What's it called?

Doc

Pentagram?

Jackson

No, it's like, her boyfriend, and they get mugged or something?

Doc

Oh!

Jackson

And then she buys a gun. She's a radio, a talk radio person.

Doc

Yeah, she plays Eric Bogasian.

Jackson

Yes, [laughs] Bogosian.

Doc

Bogosian.

Jackson

Yeah, it's like Talk Radio...

Doc

It's got a one-word title, doesn't it? It's snappy.

Jackson

Definitely, yes.

Mantis-Eye

No, it's like...

Doc

Frenzied?

Mantis-Eye

...The Scared One or something like that.

Jackson

Oh, The Brave One! There you go. Thank you. That's right, yes, Old Glory. [laughs] That's the name, like, Last of the Mohicans, or The Patriot should've been called; The Brave One.

Doc

Well, yes, I would like to...

Jackson

You don't expect Jodie Foster to be in...?

Doc

I would like to do an older female beating people up movie, next. Yeah, Jackson and I are just going to...

Jackson

Sigourney Weaver could pull that off.

Doc

You think so?

Jackson

But you expect it from her.

Doc

Yeah, I know. Let's see somebody that you wouldn't. I love Cate Blanchett because she's so beautiful.

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

And she's aging like a bottle of Merlot.

Jackson

Yeah.

Doc

So, yeah, Cate Blanchett is kicking the shit out of people. We're going to start working on big money feature films while we're doing the Venture Bros. and getting paid to do Venture Bros. and not tell anybody. We're going to be getting that kind of money. Then, we're just going to abandon Venture Bros. mid season because we're offered a lot more money to have Cate Blanchett beat people up. We have no allegiance. We'll go where the dough is. We don't care.

Mantis-Eye

He also wants to know what your strangest fan encounter has been.

Doc

Oh! Can I tell you something weird?

Mantis-Eye

Sure.

Doc

Thank you. Two guys dressed up as us.

Jackson

That was pretty strange, yeah. Somebody cosplayed us.

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Doc

Can I tell you what my weird visceral reaction was?

Jackson

And my girlfriend took a picture with them. What?

Doc

When I first saw them what I said was, "Oh, that's great." I shook their hands and stuff, and I was being flattered. But my first reaction was to tear out their trachea with my mouth. I had this "You're an abomination usurper."

Jackson

[laughs]

Doc

It felt like this wave of "I have to now kill that, because it's not me and what if it roams free, it's a pod person."

Jackson

Right.

Doc

It was momentary. Obviously I didn't attack them. Then, I was flattered and I thought it was kind of cute. But my first reaction was to rip out their windpipe with my teeth, because that shouldn't happen. That's a monster. I'll never have that reaction again. I'll only be flattered.

Jackson

Yeah. So, that's up there.

Doc

Yeah.

Jackson

And then the sex offers are probably the weirdest, but we won't talk about those. [laughs]

Doc

Yeah, we get weird sex offers.

Jackson

[laughs]

Doc

That happens.

Mantis-Eye

Iz wants to know if we ever find out what happens between Brock and Bowie in Berlin.

Jackson

Oh. Probably not. [laughs]

Doc

Yeah. If for anything, it's for TV.

Jackson

We have to let them have some mysteries. Just know something happened.

Doc

Yeah.

Jackson

You know? You don't know what went down in the card game where Han Solo won the Millennium Falcon. You just know there's a story there.

Mantis-Eye

Sara asks, "Is direct fan interaction important in any way?"

Jackson

Of course, yeah.

Doc

Yeah. I love our fans. We have smart fans.

Jackson

They're pretty good, yeah.

Photo Credit: Shannon Cottrell

Doc

We have really good fans. I can't think of a really bad fan encounter.

Jackson

We haven't really had any of those bad Con experiences. It's always flattering. It's always heart-warming. You see people dress-up as characters. Particularly when they're really good at it, you're just like impressed with their work on your behalf.

Doc

Yeah. Some people make costumes that are mind-bogglingly good.

Jackson

And we've become friends with a couple of people because they have better taste than our parents at getting us presents. [laughs]

Doc

Yeah, Jesus right?

Jackson

And we have a lot more in common with them. They like a lot of the same crap. This other person goes, "Oh, did you see this?" And they send me a link to something. I'm like, "Shit that's cool. Did you see this?"

Doc

Yeah, we like our fans. We have something in common which is the love of our show. Also, we're in a strange position where we can answer pretty much any question. There's a lot of shows that have writers that disappear and then creators that disappear. When you interview somebody you're interviewing a voice actor who knows nothing. Jackson and I have the rare ability to field any question, which is why we don't field any question and talk about our personal lives, because that is the show. Our show is really a conversation about our personal lives through these characters. I think that is the secret to our show is that it's a personal show.

I always immediately feel guilty when we do interviews and it's totally usurped by tangential conversations. But our show is one big tangential conversation. I don't think people really do care about the questions that they ask. There's no way they can care about that.

Jackson

Some do. That's why we answer some.

Doc

"Is Mol coming back?" They go home going, "Mol's coming back." Well, "Yay!" [laughs] I can't believe they care.

Mantis-Eye

Okay, that's it.

Jackson

That's it?

Mantis-Eye

I think so.

Jackson

All right. Say goodbye to the people.

Mantis-Eye

Yeah, say goodbye to the people.

Jackson

All right. Bye-bye people.

Doc

Bye-bye people. Venture Bros. season five coming at you in like a year and a few months.

Mantis-Eye

Cool. Thanks guys.

As a final parting word I'd like to thank Jackson and Doc for taking some time out to answer questions and also for being awesome in general. For you, the gentle reader, this also represents the last possible time I will recycle this content, so you have that to look forward to. Again, if you enjoyed this interview you should consider watching (most of) it on video or listening to all of it in podcast form.

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