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Fallen Arches Discussion

Another Friday, another discussion! It's 6pm EST, which means Fallen Arches should now be up on Adult Swim Fix for your viewing pleasure. As is the custom you can use the comments to talk about the episode or anything else that strikes your fancy. For you folks who will wait for the TV version (either from necessity or by choice), it will air at the usual time of 10:30pm EST on Sunday. And as always, the comments will probably have spoilers, so if you don't want anything given away, don't read them just yet! Enjoy!
  • by Mr. B
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Good Gravy, That was Mondaylicious! These last two ep's have been a bit slow paced, but the content is so rich with extremely funny moments. The JQ spider? priceless. But where was Underbheit in the Cocoon during all of that insanity?!
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:14am
That was a fantastic epiosde, good to get back to basics with the Monarch and the henchmen. Cool of them to bring back the villains from the Yard sale epiosde.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 10:42am
  • by Gumby
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I find the whole idea of a cattle call for Arches staggeringly hilarious
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Sep. 7, 2006, 5:23pm
W00Tsauce! 2 weeks of anticipation,,,, Awesomeness!
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:16am
Another EPIC episode. Just love Jefferson Twililght as an mid 50s Blade.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:33am
  • by Hahnarama
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"Hank did my Grandpa teach you to crap?"
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:42am
godgolly i love Dr. Orpheus
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:55am
  • by Katiria
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The Monarch is far more ripped than I would have thought from looking at him in costume...and that's a nice Red Dragon reference with his rather disturbing tattoo. :P
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Sep. 2, 2006, 1:06am
  • by B McClure
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I missed at five minutes of that laughing my ass off. So many cool new characters! And so many referances! THAT I GOT! Cool Hand Luke, Red Dragon, ack! This show is freakin AWESOME!
*spaz* Totally geeking out here.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 1:41am
  • by cpc65
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I was so pissing my pants laughing at that Dr. V doing the carwash scene from Cool Hand Luke!!! I was sort of right about (Ex) Dr. Girlfriend going back to being an arch-villian on her own again, or at least trying to. Can't wait to see if she takes another stab at it.

Yikes! The Monarch is like getting extra super creepy now!

The Order of the Triad rules!
-"Get the hell out of my kitchen!"-
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Sep. 2, 2006, 3:07am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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Thanks to fuckin' bitch-ass dial-up I gotta ask the question.....Where would you rank this episode from 1 to 8?????Maybe some day my parents will stop being cheap and upgrade this gay-ass shit so I can join you in watching these new episodes 2 before they air. Not only that but you can watch the episodes as many times as you want. I can only enjoy these fuckin' masterpieces 2 times a week. Oh yeah, why the fuck did [adult swim] take off the rerun day of the Venture Bros?????That was fucking stupid!!!!Not everyone can watch that goddamn fucking Fix shit. Be considerite for the people who don't have High-speed internet. Assholes........I feel left out. My feelings are hurt. Will someone hold me??????
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Sep. 2, 2006, 3:10am
  • by cuavsfan
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Pretty good... the Family Double Dare reference was great... I was kind of hoping that Kim would show up again, though... I would have also liked for Hank to be featured a bit more, but it was still funnny...
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Sep. 2, 2006, 3:31am
  • by Gumby
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Yeah, I would have thought that Kim would be #2-ing for Dr Girlfriend by now instead of the "Murderous Moffets", Maybe next time...
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:24pm
  • by Pooptart
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That.
Was.
AWSOME!

This is why The Venture Bros. should never go off the air.

African-Americans in Britian? :P
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Sep. 2, 2006, 3:40am
  • by Arpiby
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I gotta say I was kind of disappointed. The premise of the episode just sounded so OMGAWESOME and the first half lives up to it, but it kind of peters out a little bit. It's still great, just not as great as it might have been.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 3:46am
  • by Steve W
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I loved this one. I really liked the bits with Hank and Dean trying to keep Triana entertained. Very weird. The lame Guild villains were good, too. Dr. Girlfriend didn't make too threatening a villain, even with a couple of midgets as backup.

The Monarch's really lost it. He's gone over the edge. It's going to be fun watching what happens to him later on.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 4:42am
  • by jeff
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big continuity error with the whore and the monarch when she fell into his bed

boots on, off, and on again
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Sep. 2, 2006, 6:09am
  • by Amadeus
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Anyone begin to notice the huge similarity between Vincent Price and Dr. Orpheus??
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Sep. 2, 2006, 7:08am
  • by Monarch Henchman #45
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That's because he's half Price and half Dr. Strange. Publick and Hammer already told us this in the commentary for "Eeny, Meeny, Miney... Magic!".
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:00pm
  • by WorstServedCold
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I liked this episode, quite a bit. It hasn't got as many laugh-riots per square inch as assassinanny or VEN, but a killer story and great writing. Things I liked:

-Venture's version of "the talk".
-Yet another piece of flying equipment stolen from Sgt Hatred. That dude's going to be pissed at the Monarch.
-Jefferson's asking the alchemist if he was still gay, and the reply, made me think of a similar scene in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang". Both scenes make me giggle. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and plug that film here. It's got a shitty name, but it makes me think of VB, in that it's a good concept wrapped in great writing and dialogue.
-Also thrilling is that the show is actually going to have a black character. Even though he is a bit 70's stereotypical, it's OK because it's pretty much his costume, and two katanas makes him a badass. What's with his strange speach patterns though? And what's with 2 wizards and a warrior? The third one's supposed to be like, an archer or something.
-Deeper. Deeper. DEEPER.
-The Monarch making a sinister Monarch speach while crawling across his bed in a pink bathrobe.
-The following Red Dragon moment. My only issue is that it was perhaps a bit too obvious a rip, and I finished reading that book YESTERDAY, so it's also kinda spooky.
-I imagine Torrid as being played by Jasan Statham when they finally remake all the episodes as live-action movies with all-star casts.
-Blaculas. This COULD count toward the "names as nouns" list, but it's understandable in this case because Jefferson couldn't find a better descriptive name.
-Also spooky, I was replaying Max Payne 2 earlier today, and one of the shows blaring on TVs is "Lords and Ladies". I don't know what specific play Dean was performing, but they are both clearly riffing on the same thing. And Brock did a lovely job.
-Pretty much everything having to do with the Walking Eye. Also, all of Rusty's animation in the wash scene was really well done and expressive. Someone took a long time to get that just right... and I weep for them.
-I think we can all agree that as long as Dr. Girlfriend continues to come up with short-skirted costumes, we will have an easier time ignoring the voice.
-Somewhere along the line Hank became hugely funny, and I approve.
-The image of 24 spinning around with jetpacks on either side of his torso was downright cute. It does trouble me that the 21/24 plot point, while good for laughs, didn't really seem to be going anywhere. But it's an excuse for lots of the clever 1-on-1 conversations I love VB for, so it can stay.
-The snake eye icon thing is ultra-classy, and I like that unlike the Venture effect, which lights them from behind, this one comes out in front... and can be seen from the back.

Also, I can't quite figure out where this episode fits in the grand scheme of things. It's after VEN because Dr. Girlfriend is on her own, but before Love-Bheits because Underbheit and the Monarch arn't roomies. I'd love to see a difinitive ordered list at some point.

I'm seeing a problem of sorts arising from this show's character list and writing. Hank and 21/24 say so many funny things, they can now join the list (Brock, The Monarch, Dr. Girlfriend, Dr. Orpheus, Mr. White and Billy Quizboy) of characters it's seemingly impossible to get enough of. You can only fit so much awesome in 22 minutes of airtime, so by season 3 I suspect the opening music/montage is going to be the Venture Brothers Skull flashed for approximately 2 milliseconds.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 7:32am
  • by richard patrick
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yes, that minght be from kiss kiss bang bang, you're right. and i'm gonna back you up on your support for that movie. maybe the most underrated ever! i really loved it - just saw it last weekend - and it really is along the same lines of humor as the venture brothers.
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Sep. 3, 2006, 12:08am
  • by Guby
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Concerning the order; this one is definitely before Assassinanny, if you look on the wall behind Hank's bed you'll see the posters of Mary Lou Retton, Dana Kirkpatrick etc. (assuming its not a continuity error)
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:44am
  • by Peter
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Right, but don't forget Dr. Venture made the comment (close to this) "what's with the tux, are you playing an away game again?"
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:54am
  • by Gumby
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True, also (Nod to Roscoe) Brock was smoking in the lab and Dr V. supposedly prohibited that in Assassinanny so it could have an error.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 6:39pm
I was hoping to see Kim again too. Oh well. They did a good job holding together a buttload of subplots. Especially good were the Double Dare costumes, Dr. Girlfriend's cameo, and the voice of Master Shake as The Alchemist.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 7:36am
  • by LBJ
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BAd news everyone... at the adult swim panel today at Dragoncon, someone asked about Kim & Dr. Girlfriend teaming up and, at least in season 2, the answer could be summarized as 'no'. Yep, I was disappointed too.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 7:44am
Damn you Adult Swim Fix and your blocking out Canada.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 7:57am
  • by WorstServedCold
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Aww.... well that's all the more reason to push for Season 3.... and 4. And 12.
Well, at least as long as they stay good with this consistancy. Or anything close to it.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:08am
  • by Gumby
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So Sad...
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:30pm
  • by WorstServedCold
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Oh, and also worth mentioning is the fact that the fix now has the entire first season of Venture Brothers. Being the DVD-less goober that I am, this will finally allow me to relive the classics, and give everyone else who has been hooked by season 2 a chance to see where it came from.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:03am
  • by Bill Brasky
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Took me awhile to realize that The Alchemist was voiced by Dana Snyder aka Master Shake! And I wouldn't want to be the guy who messed up Brock's herb garden.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 11:54am
  • by Steve W
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Took me a minute to realise where I had heard The Alchemist's voice too. I had to laugh once I realised it was Master Shake's voice actor. It would have been nice if Jefferson Twilight's voice had been done by Frylock's voice. Like a partial little ATHF reunion.
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Sep. 3, 2006, 1:00am
  • by Gothicoyne
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Pretty good ep, but once again, no HELPeR. I've never felt more sorry for a robot.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 12:24pm
Well I read in Variety that Soul Bot has been a hold out because he is demanding more $$$. HELPeR is being written out of the show. The clips you have seen this year are stock footage. Rumor has it that Anthony Daniels is stepping in as a new VB robot.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 5:14pm
  • by Gothicoyne
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Hot damn! New robot to replace HELPeR, kinda gets me excited! Than again, with all the new characters coming ever ep, i guess i can say i'll be looking forward to it.
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Sep. 3, 2006, 1:04pm
  • by cpc65
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I thought Jefferson Twilight's comments sounded familiar about how when he said he fights Blackulas, he was asked if he meant African American vampires. He responded by saying sometimes fights British vampires (becasue if they're British and black, you can't say they are African American).

Some of you may be already familiar with Maddox and his website "The best page in the universe" http://maddox.xmission.com/

In one of his updates from 5/6/06 he writes about suggested ideas from readers and how stupid they can be. One person asks him to write about African Americans and he responds by saying how stupid that PC term is. He shows a photo of a black man in a suit and says that if you infered the man was African American, you would be wrong as he was British. Coincidence?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=your_stupid_ideas

Maybe Doc Hammer and / or Jackson Public are fans of Maddox?
PS: I'm not looking to start a debate on this subject here, so please don't. This is not the place for it. I just wanted to point out a possible conection to one of my favorite shows and one of my favorite websites (besides this one of course). Nothing more!
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Sep. 2, 2006, 5:24pm
  • by Mistress Mattress
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There can be no debate... For it to be part of this season, that script would have been written way before that web article.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 6:31am
  • by Char
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Monarch + Poe = Insanity
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Sep. 2, 2006, 5:31pm
  • by Frankie
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Did anyone else notice that Truckules was standing in line?
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Sep. 2, 2006, 8:48pm
  • by Gumby
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Next to Sgt. Hatred(?)
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:05am
  • by Char
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Yeah but I didn't think he'd be, ya know, an actual truck...
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Sep. 4, 2006, 4:41pm
  • by Amadeus
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I really need to stop watching this show. I'm getting WAY too attached to the characters.
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Sep. 2, 2006, 11:15pm
  • by Doc Kneezy
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And that is supposed to be bad????
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:26am
  • by Migs
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Jefferson Twilight new favorite character, well that is until the next eisode. I loved the mix of his character origins. The obvious one was Blade, but he's also a mix of Brother Voodoo. The hair and tooth necklace for his design are definitely Brother Voodoo.

Also, Double Dare reference!
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Sep. 2, 2006, 11:35pm
  • by Bhaakon
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I don't know if it's an intentional referrence or not, but Jefferson has different colored eyes like Spike in Cowboy Bebop.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:27am
I think David Bowie is a more likely influence, if any. Doc and Jackson have already demonstrated that they're big Bowie fans in The Incredible Mr. Brisby and Ghosts of the Sargasso.

Due to a childhood injury Bowie appears to have two different colored eyes. Originally, both eyes were blue but after the injury the iris of the left eye became permanantly dilated and changed color. The color seems to change depending on the lighting but often it appears green or brown. In some photos, the brown pupil looks almost red.

Also, one of his most famous acting roles was that of a vampire in the 80's horror movie, The Hunger. Then again, it might be as simple as Doc and Jackson thinking different colored eyes just looks cool.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 1:39am
  • by Doc SnoZ the Reloaded
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great episode...close to saying the best yet...love the monarch in this one...but worried how this fits into the timeline...it seems that this episode is outta place...
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Sep. 3, 2006, 12:11am
  • by Anduniel
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Take that, three-headed dog! Orpheus does have friends!
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Sep. 3, 2006, 6:49am
  • by Anduniel
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The scene where dr. V was washing the Walking Eye was so beyond disturbing
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Sep. 3, 2006, 7:00am
  • by Red Knuckles
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WOW! I couldn't agree more!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:03pm
  • by Red Knuckles
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WOW! I couldn't agree more!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:03pm
  • by Rahb
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It would seem that apparently you *could* agree more. Twice in fact.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 6:53pm
  • by Jennifer S.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the scene from the guild's video illustrating "inappropriate aggression"? I couldn't stop laughing.
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Sep. 3, 2006, 9:01am
As Hank said in this episode:
"Cool Beans!"

Like teh new favicon :P
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Sep. 3, 2006, 10:14am
Great, great episode. Hope to see more of the Order of the Triad in future eps.

Oh, and in case it interests anyone, the Adult Swim Fix is showing the entire first season of the Venture Bros. right now.
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Sep. 3, 2006, 4:42pm
  • by markmarkmark
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this episode is a totally perfect example of why i love this show.
ludicruos situations with realistic reactions, and a weird sort of acceptance for they bizarre in the daily lives of the family.

also, love how james bond is a fictional character, when he's a lot more... plausible? then the venture family
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Sep. 3, 2006, 7:52pm
  • by WorstServedCold
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So right about what I also think makes the show great.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 1:22am
  • by TheHumanStain
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FINALLY - a show with magic, flying fat guys (ala Dune) homo-eroticism, and torturing hookers! It's like they filmed my thoughts. Hey, get out of my mind!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 4:48am
For all those worried about continuity, we only know that Baron von Underbehit went to the Monarch's door to beg for a place to stay. Monarch could have easily refused. Its also possible that Underbehit is in the Monarch layer, just in his own room. He probably wants no part in the Monarch's weird treatment of some whore.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:02am
  • by Peter
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Also, we know the episodes aren't necessarily being shown in order. It seems this takes place after Assassinanny.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:57am
  • by Ytoabn
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Whoops, should of read the notes from "Love-Bheits" first.

From this very site, I quote:
"The ending of this brought up some speculation, but according to Jackson and Doc at Dragon-Con '06, it was just a throwaway gag and Ünderbheit and the Monarch will not be teaming up this season. Sorry, guys. The Monarch hates Ünderbheit anyway, so it's not like they'd get along very well."

So Monarch didn't let Underbheit in, thats why he wasn't around the cucoon.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:07am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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Godmotherfuckingdamn. That's all I can say about this episode. This is probably....no fuck that, this IS my favorite episode of the Venture Bros. so far. This episode is 100x better than "Assassinanny 911" and "Victor.Echo.November." I loved that Blade character. I was wondering when they were going to have a bad-ass black character in this show. What I liked about him was that he didn't have the usual sterotypical behavior that black people usually have on White-created shows. Thank you Jackson and Doc. You just proved that black people don't have to be sterotypical to be funny in shows. Nice fucking work. Everything in this episode flowed perfectly. This is probably the ONLY episode where each and every scene had me dyin' from laughter. Both of the Monarch's heachmen, The Monarch, Hank and Dean, The order of the Triad, Max and Ward, Dr.Venture and his Walking Eye, everything was fucking great. They'll be hard pressed to try to top this episode. They went all out on it and that's what I loved about it. P.S. How the fuck can "Family Guy" still be getting more viewers than The Venture Bros.????Family Guy is a fucking insult to this show. It can't even hold a fucking candle to it. Some day people will open their eyes to this greatness and stop being fucking brainwashed by that low grade, poorly put together bullshit................
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:11am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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2 things. 1, Mike you need to raise the numbers on that rank thing so I can give this episode a fucking 900. 2, Kimson Albert's quote name was "Beahmeau" or some shit like that.......
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:17am
  • by Doc Kneezy Fan
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Once again Doc Kneezy, you have expressed what the rest of us were feeling with a mixture of elequence and profanity so beyond the level of a normal man that I can't comprehend what you have said still. Keep on keepin' on and doin' what you do because you delight me.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 7:25pm
  • by Bonzo the Fifth
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Has anyone else noticed the not so subtle push on the Dean/Triana angle lately? I have to wonder if this is actually going to go somewhere, or if they're just playing Dean's crush for all the comedy that it's worth... (watching him trying to do Lady Windemere's Fan was both hilarious and simultaneously sad)

In a way, though I know it's a total Shark Jumping problem, I hope they actually progress this, as this show has, unlike many of the properties that it parodies, been very much about developing characters in ludicrous situations in logical directions, such as the disintegration of The Monarch's and Dr. Girlfriend's relationship, the death (and resurection) of the Venture brothers, 21's slow burning ambitions of supervilliany, etc. This show obviously isn't afraid of straying from it's own status quo, and it would be interesting to see how they might handle something like Triana finally having to break the news to Dean that she just doesn't like him that way (because if we go with the 'logical reaction' model, there's no other possible scenario).

Actually, come to think of it, this might go well with the Main Arc of this season, which has seemed to be trying to 'grow up' Hank and Dean, seeing as every other episode has been them being forced to deal with ever more 'adult' situations, which has been much more entertaining than season 1 where they mostly just played the dimwitted foil to nearly every other character on the show...

This kind of depth is why I love this show, and it hasn't disappointed me, yet...
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:17am
  • by Bonzo the Fifth
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Come to think of it, I've also found that I rather enjoy Hank and Dean more when they're seperated, which, the more I think about it, was most of the reason why they're the most annoying part of season 1 for most people. Together, they're both rather stupid. Seperate, though, you actually get a better idea that, while they're both still kind of dim-witted, they each have they're gifts, and they're own individual brands of stupidity that makes them quite enjoyable to watch.

This is furthered even more by the individualized attention both characters are getting this season as opposed to Season 1 when everything just happened to both of them (the boys are kidnapped by The Monarch--The boys are kidnapped by Brisby--The boys chase after Phantom Spaceman--The boys open a lemonade stand-- etc.) This season, often the boys are seperated, and the characters treat them as individuals instead of just 'the Venture boys' (Dr. Venture taking Dean along to get his 'speed suit--Hank getting a patricidal crush on Molotov Cocktease--Dean getting forced into that creepy marriage with Underbheit--Hank and his Batman fetish)

Come to think of it, I'm actually starting to LIKE the Venture brothers as characters, and not thinking of them as the weak links of the show...
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:26am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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You and I both, I know exactly what you mean. I hated the fact that they never developed their own character traits in the 1st season and that they were always together. That's why all the best episodes of The Venture Bros. are the ones where the boys play a prominent role in them.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:35am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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God I hate fucking "dial-up". I want to watch this episode so many times that my fucking eye-balls fall out of their sockets. But yet I can't.......................FUCK IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 5:42am
  • by Roscoe
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The Boys Weren't Kidnapped by Brisby. They Were Taken By The Orange County Liberation Guys.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 7:32am
  • by TheHumanStain
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And for all you fans of meaningless minutiae - if you look real close at the 'Second Class Arch' cards, it appears that number 21's (or is he number 24?) name is 'Jack Cutter', and number 24 (or is he number 21?) is 'Corky' something - his last name is much longer and I couldn't make it out. But it certainly did look like 'Corky'!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 6:39am
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I was wondering about that, have to take a closer look.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 7:53am
  • by Gumby
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I can't make it out any better but we know #21's first name is Gary so the names are as fake as the "Worldwide Arching Licenses" good guess all the same.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:24am
  • by Rahb
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First license:

WORLDWIDE ARCHING LICENSE
ID: 25930573892-010
DOB:11-25-4 (4??)
CUTTER, JAKE
S. ECKAR ST
14095
SEX: M EYES: OR HT: 5-9
ISSUED: 6-15-06 EXP: 12-30-10


Second license:

WORLDWIDE ARCHING LICENSE
ID: (obscured by thumb & blurry)
DOB:10-15-62
KRAPHTRUCKER, CORKY
41 SHEL(blurry) AVE
02542
SEX: M EYES: G HT: 6-1
ISSUED: 6-15-06 EXP: 12-30-10


Yes, I know the dialog indicates "6 feet and 135 lbs" on the first license, however the licenses show the above - there is no indication of weight at all.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 8:20pm
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Interesting: Jake's Zip is in Lockport NY, while Corky's Zip is in Buzzards Bay, MA (or OTIS AFB).
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Sep. 6, 2006, 4:07pm
  • by Meh
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Corky Romono! Ray Romano! ...maybe?
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Sep. 5, 2006, 9:33pm
  • by Roscoe
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This episode was friggin great! Tons of small fun that I noticed that made it a blast to watch. So it seems that Dr. O's TV remote has returned to the "Matereal Sphear" and his TV might no longer be stuck on Animal Planet. Also, it seems Molotov's Speach from "Assananny 911" got Dr. Venture to let Brock smoke in the lab. Oh, hey, Looks like Dr.O. does have friends! Also, I think this is the first appearance of a black character that's a good guy. We got to see someone that I think was Truckulese and we saw "Lady Au Pare" whose costume was really un-sinister by the way. who knew Dr. O. owns his own island? The plug-Faced guy was back. Gak stains, Movie refrences, Family Double Dare, Dana Snyder as "The Alchemist". Jefferson Twilight seemed to also fight French Blaculus not just American And British. Even though the Christmas special suggested that the Ventures Were Christian with there Manger Scene traditions and everything, Could You Actually see Hank and Dean reading Bible stories? Or even better, Dr. Venture reading the stories to them? The Ghost guy from "Tag Sale, Your It" was back, Until now I was never sure if he was a villan or some sort of spector created by Dr. Orpheus to screw with The Monarch. James Bond, the walking eye from the intro, Brock has an Herb Garden? I'm sure the list goes on. I'll have to watch it again.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:39am
  • by TheHumanStain
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I personally believe those were actually Cajun Blaculas, not actually French - possibly displaced by Hurricane Katrina. It sounded more like the Louisiana patois!
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Sep. 4, 2006, 3:58pm
  • by Steve W
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They also could have been Carribean Blaculas.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 5:31am
  • by Bhaakon
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Overall a very enjoyable episode, though I wish they done more to solve the whole Triana kidnapping thing. Not only did the solution feel completely tacked-on, it makes no sense. Why would Torrid take Triana to Orpheus' island? And why would a man who owns his own island rent an apartment from Dr. Venture? And how did Triana write that note on the mirror, she was teleported/burned/whatever and didn't have an opportunity? Granted, the show opporates in a an utterlt fantastic and often incoherent world, but there is generally some logic (even if stupid/insane) to the characters' actions that I I just thought was lacking in this case.

I know that reads like rank entitled-fanboy jackassery, but oh well. I criticize because I care.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:44am
  • by Peter
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Same exact questions I've been wondering about.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 11:02am
  • by Gothicoyne
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I too ask the same questions. There's so many unanswered questions, but all the same i wouldn't change anything about the ep. I really feel that if they detailed everything, well, than maybe a lot would be cut out.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 1:32pm
  • by SoulAssassin34
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As for why Dr. Orpheus would live at the Venture Compund, I'm guessing that with the Venture name being so recognized in the world of Super Scientist/Hero/Archvillian/Costumed Agression, that Dr. O simply wanted to be near such a recognizalbe figure, therefore upping his chances of getting in on the action.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 1:34am
  • by TheHumanStain
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Maybe because it's a cartoon and characters don't have to do things that make sense? I think that was pretty well pointed out with the whole 'Return to the House of Mummies' episode, where NOTHING made sense, by design. Remember, Mickey Mouse was a crime against nature.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 2:55am
  • by Bhaakon
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No, it doesn't have to make sense. Not rea-world sense, at least. But the show has created a universe for itself, a framework of rules within which the characters opporate in a logical[ish] manner. The whole kidnapping thing just brakes the framework for a quick laugh and easy solution. In a way, I'd perfer that the kidnapping be left unsolved (like Brock and boys' escape in 'Escape to the House of Mummies') than have it "cleaned up" in such a problematic fashion.

Anyway, I think the reason Orpheus doesn't just live on his island is because he is divoriced and (presumably) his ex-wife has some kind of relationship with Triana, and Triana needs to go to school (something probably not available on a privatel owned island in the Great Barrier Reef).
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Sep. 5, 2006, 5:13am
  • by Bobby Joe
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The writting on the mirror was probably from the villian, what was it "Torride"? He wanted Dr O to know he kidnapped his daughter so he could get the arching gig.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 8:02pm
  • by K
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Good point, and remember, she is in the Torrid Zone, not the Torrid Island, so she could be standing right there but just in a different dimension. In the end of the episode, she may have exited the zone at Dr. O's island where she can relax from being kidnapped.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 4:12pm
I wouldn't accuse you of jack-assery (thanks to VB that has become one of my favorite new words!) because I was wondering the exact same thing. It's hard to quibble when everything else about the episode is so good.

There is one thing that made me wonder, though. Jefferson mentions Dr. Orpheus having a secret identity.

WHAT secret identity? He goes around introducing himself to everyone as Doctor Byron Orpheus. Even if "Doctor Orpheus" is his superhero name, it doesn't really hide his identity, does it?

Either Byron Orpheus is a fake name (which I DOUBT), or he used some name other than "Doctor Orpheus" when he originally worked with the Order of the Triad and Jefferson just assumes he's still using it.

It seemed to serve no purpose but to set up a string of Aquaman jokes. Either way, it doesn't detract from what was an overall great episode.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 2:47am
  • by Henchman #45
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Twilight was refering to Orpheus's home as his alternate identity. Orpheus is a father and has a rent and has basically an average life (I use the word "average" with Orpheus VERY lightly). Twilight probably is constantly in "fight mode," where as Orpheus can go from Hero to Daddy on a whim. Orpheus, Master of the Cosmos's secret identity is Orpheus, loving father and tenant.
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Sep. 7, 2006, 11:35pm
To me a secret identity means a name (i.e. Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, etc) but given the nature of the show your explanation makes sense.
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Sep. 8, 2006, 7:03pm
  • by Katharine
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It reminds me of an old '80s cartoon or an American dub of a Japanese cartoon that's been cut-and-pasted to pieces because somebody died and they couldn't show that on American TV, so they rewrote the script to make it sound like they just got hurt or something even though the character's mouth totally isn't moving, and because of that they have to take out the original ending so they don't really have any means of tying up the loose strings, but whatever. So for the nostalgic value, yeah, I agree it probably works better unresolved. Plus, why change the formula now?

But still. . . . It's maddening!
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Sep. 6, 2006, 8:29am
  • by Peter
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Yeah, ordinarily I'd say "It's just a TV show, it doesn't matter". But VB is generally very good about their plotlines. Also, it feels like this episode was really just a set-up for some interesting things to happen in later episodes.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 5:12pm
  • by Thom
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I can't believe no one's brought up the "Jet Boy" reference. The New York Dolls and the Damned were both mentioned. "Then we should call ourselves the Damned!" Classic shit.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:59am
It should be noted that the song "Jet Boy/Jet Girl" is also an appropriate boy/boy song as it seems to be about underage homosexuality. It is based on Plastic Bertram's song "C'est Plan Pour Moi," which I don't think has anything in common lyrically with the Damned version.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 12:37pm
  • by Frankie
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"Ca Plane Pour Moi"
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Sep. 5, 2006, 5:37pm
  • by markmarkmark
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Alrighty, obviously fans of the Venture Bros are obviously smarter then the average fellow.
So, I have a queery. Does anyone know of a proxy that will trick adult swim into thinking i'm coming from the states?

At home, it was fine as we had wireless internet that went through the states, but i just moved into my university residence, and the ip tells the site i'm from Canada.

Any suggestions?
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:27pm
  • by TheHumanStain
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Ummm.... move to America?
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:17pm
  • by Gumby
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I don't know if this will work for you and I don't feel comfortable recommending this type of program, but I have used it to view AS Fix stuff and after it loads the page the streaming media seems to play very well.

The program is Torpark here's the Wiki link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpark

If you use this program, you do it at your own risk, I accept NO responsibility (that's why I gave you the Wikipedia link), you decide if its right for you...

I can tell you that I've used it with no apparent problems, it's just slow at establishing the initial connection (of course you still need a fast connection to view the clips)

I hope this helps our fellow VB fans in the GWN (or anywhere else in the ether) No one should be without!

Take back the Interweb!
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Sep. 5, 2006, 8:01pm
  • by Frankie
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Typo in the credits! It should be spelled "Au Pair", not "Au Pare".
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Sep. 4, 2006, 9:41pm
  • by TheHumanStain
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Not necessarily, it could be a witty play on words. Especially if she kills with knives, she could 'pare' her victims, therefore 'Lady Au PARE', get it? Get it?? Huh???
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Sep. 4, 2006, 10:20pm
  • by Agent 27
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This episode is great. I think it came after Assinanny because if you watch it again you'll notice that Hank's posters are already back on the wall as Molotov is driving away.
I would also like to address the ongoing struggle as to why Brock works for the Ventures and if Hank is actually his. Brock is assigned to Dr. Rusty because he has intimate knowledge of EVERYTHING Dr. Jonas was ever involved in. Much of his work was top secret government/military related so you have to infer that Rusty "knows" a lot of info nobody wants in the hands of the Guild or any other baddies. There is only one way Hank can be Brock's son/clone. In Assinanny, we learned that Brock doesn't know his father. In Dia los Dangerous, Dr. Rusty took a kidney from both Dean and Hank. If Hank is Brock's then the only feasible answer is that Brock is Dr. Jonas Venture's bastard son. Dr. Jonas' wife died after childbirth or something right? Anyway, Rusty never has any flashbacks of his mother and Dr. J was a sexy looking dude. Discuss
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Sep. 4, 2006, 11:27pm
  • by Gumby
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Oops, Don't know how I missed that, thanks for the correction.
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Sep. 4, 2006, 11:41pm
  • by Agent 27
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Just watched Fallen Arches for the 3rd time. Thank God for Tivo. The Monarch is not mad. He was laughing the entire time. The tatoo was fake because it was washing off in the shower and he was giggling the whole time he was talking to the whore.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 3:09am
  • by Spaboo
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What about the question from Jefferson Twilight about why a company called Franco-American makes Italian food??? I let out a hearty guffaw thinking about the utter genius of that statement. Who didn't grow up eating Spaghetti-O's?
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Sep. 5, 2006, 3:16am
  • by Spaboo
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What about the question from Jefferson Twilight about why a company called Franco-American makes Italian food??? I let out a hearty guffaw thinking about the utter genius of that statement. Who didn't grow up eating Spaghetti-O's?
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Sep. 5, 2006, 3:16am
  • by Dan
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I ate my share of Spaghetti-O's. And unlike Phantom Limb, I wouldn't mind having some for dinner today.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 6:34am
"...or the polar bear from LOST!!!"
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Sep. 5, 2006, 7:11am
  • by Dandy
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is the Adult swim fix not working for anyone? I click on the show, but all it keeps showing is commercials
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Sep. 5, 2006, 7:32am
  • by Bill Brasky
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List our clues again...
1. Goth chick catches fire and disappears
2. No smoldering body beating "kill me, kill me" in morse code with what is left of her head
3. The smell of a dumpster full of burning diapers

teh hilarity
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Sep. 5, 2006, 12:20pm
  • by James
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You know what I have a problem with? Wouldnt Brock have talked Dean out of doing the Lady Windimereplay? He talked Hank out of doing his seafood joke.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 1:01pm
He did say "Dean you owe me one" I could see Dean being really insistent and Brock being too tired to argue about it.
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Sep. 7, 2006, 6:06pm
  • by whitelion
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well he did walk out on it and he seemed to wanted an excuse to wear a tux.
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Sep. 5, 2006, 1:28pm
  • by LordSinister
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Funny shit. Jefferson Twilight is a cross between Samuel Jackson in Pulp fiction and Blade/Brother Voodo. Best character ever.

"Do you smoke cigarettes or do you eat them?"
Jefferson Twighlight

Total badass!!
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Sep. 6, 2006, 12:43am
notice how Triana, when she disappears, shouts for Hank... and not Dean... weird
But this could be because she could of thought it was Hank's fault that she disappeared or something?
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Sep. 6, 2006, 1:52am
When I watched it on the Fix the first time, I thought she said "Hank" as well. Later on when I listened to it on TV it sounded more like "Hey." That's what subtitles on the DVD are for, I guess.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 5:37am
  • by Katharine
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"I can't believe that whore stole my Stanza."
"I can't believe that whore made it through the lake of acid."

Best ending line ever.
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Sep. 6, 2006, 8:33am
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Animation Direction Supervisor:
Kimson "Rochambeau" Albert
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Sep. 8, 2006, 9:48pm
Hate you can trust.
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