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by Bhaakon
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Overall a very enjoyable episode, though I wish they done more to solve the whole Triana kidnapping thing. Not only did the solution feel completely tacked-on, it makes no sense. Why would Torrid take Triana to Orpheus' island? And why would a man who owns his own island rent an apartment from Dr. Venture? And how did Triana write that note on the mirror, she was teleported/burned/whatever and didn't have an opportunity? Granted, the show opporates in a an utterlt fantastic and often incoherent world, but there is generally some logic (even if stupid/insane) to the characters' actions that I I just thought was lacking in this case.

I know that reads like rank entitled-fanboy jackassery, but oh well. I criticize because I care.

Sep. 4, 2006, 9:44am

by Peter
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Same exact questions I've been wondering about.

Sep. 4, 2006, 11:02am

by Gothicoyne
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I too ask the same questions. There's so many unanswered questions, but all the same i wouldn't change anything about the ep. I really feel that if they detailed everything, well, than maybe a lot would be cut out.

Sep. 4, 2006, 1:32pm

by SoulAssassin34
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As for why Dr. Orpheus would live at the Venture Compund, I'm guessing that with the Venture name being so recognized in the world of Super Scientist/Hero/Archvillian/Costumed Agression, that Dr. O simply wanted to be near such a recognizalbe figure, therefore upping his chances of getting in on the action.

Sep. 5, 2006, 1:34am

by TheHumanStain
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Maybe because it's a cartoon and characters don't have to do things that make sense? I think that was pretty well pointed out with the whole 'Return to the House of Mummies' episode, where NOTHING made sense, by design. Remember, Mickey Mouse was a crime against nature.

Sep. 5, 2006, 2:55am

by Bhaakon
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No, it doesn't have to make sense. Not rea-world sense, at least. But the show has created a universe for itself, a framework of rules within which the characters opporate in a logical[ish] manner. The whole kidnapping thing just brakes the framework for a quick laugh and easy solution. In a way, I'd perfer that the kidnapping be left unsolved (like Brock and boys' escape in 'Escape to the House of Mummies') than have it "cleaned up" in such a problematic fashion.

Anyway, I think the reason Orpheus doesn't just live on his island is because he is divoriced and (presumably) his ex-wife has some kind of relationship with Triana, and Triana needs to go to school (something probably not available on a privatel owned island in the Great Barrier Reef).

Sep. 5, 2006, 5:13am

by Bobby Joe
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The writting on the mirror was probably from the villian, what was it "Torride"? He wanted Dr O to know he kidnapped his daughter so he could get the arching gig.

Sep. 5, 2006, 8:02pm

by K
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Good point, and remember, she is in the Torrid Zone, not the Torrid Island, so she could be standing right there but just in a different dimension. In the end of the episode, she may have exited the zone at Dr. O's island where she can relax from being kidnapped.

Sep. 6, 2006, 4:12pm

by Mr. Noy
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I wouldn't accuse you of jack-assery (thanks to VB that has become one of my favorite new words!) because I was wondering the exact same thing. It's hard to quibble when everything else about the episode is so good.

There is one thing that made me wonder, though. Jefferson mentions Dr. Orpheus having a secret identity.

WHAT secret identity? He goes around introducing himself to everyone as Doctor Byron Orpheus. Even if "Doctor Orpheus" is his superhero name, it doesn't really hide his identity, does it?

Either Byron Orpheus is a fake name (which I DOUBT), or he used some name other than "Doctor Orpheus" when he originally worked with the Order of the Triad and Jefferson just assumes he's still using it.

It seemed to serve no purpose but to set up a string of Aquaman jokes. Either way, it doesn't detract from what was an overall great episode.

Sep. 6, 2006, 2:47am

by Henchman #45
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Twilight was refering to Orpheus's home as his alternate identity. Orpheus is a father and has a rent and has basically an average life (I use the word "average" with Orpheus VERY lightly). Twilight probably is constantly in "fight mode," where as Orpheus can go from Hero to Daddy on a whim. Orpheus, Master of the Cosmos's secret identity is Orpheus, loving father and tenant.

Sep. 7, 2006, 11:35pm

by Mr. Noy
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To me a secret identity means a name (i.e. Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, etc) but given the nature of the show your explanation makes sense.

Sep. 8, 2006, 7:03pm

by Katharine
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It reminds me of an old '80s cartoon or an American dub of a Japanese cartoon that's been cut-and-pasted to pieces because somebody died and they couldn't show that on American TV, so they rewrote the script to make it sound like they just got hurt or something even though the character's mouth totally isn't moving, and because of that they have to take out the original ending so they don't really have any means of tying up the loose strings, but whatever. So for the nostalgic value, yeah, I agree it probably works better unresolved. Plus, why change the formula now?

But still. . . . It's maddening!

Sep. 6, 2006, 8:29am

by Peter
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Yeah, ordinarily I'd say "It's just a TV show, it doesn't matter". But VB is generally very good about their plotlines. Also, it feels like this episode was really just a set-up for some interesting things to happen in later episodes.

Sep. 6, 2006, 5:12pm

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