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Victor. Echo. November. Discussion

It's that time once again. Our special time where we gather around the fire and discuss the latest Venture Brothers episode which is now up on Adult Swim Fix. Won't you join us? We have hot chocolate and some delicious snack cakes, and everyone is always so friendly and polite. Oh yeah, the comments will probably have spoilers, so if you know what's good for you you'll stay out! I'm just sayin' is all. Enjoy the show!
  • by Thatguy
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Wow. Probably my favorite episode ever. Didn't Kim already meet Hank and Dean in Asassinanny? And this one couldn't have come before that chronologically due to Doc Venture's arm.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 12:16am
  • by Dan
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"And this one couldn't have come before that chronologically due to Doc Venture's arm."

I think you were led astray by the ending. Doc didn't get a fake arm. Billy reattached Venture's real arm. That shot of a robot hand you saw was Billy fiddling with his own hand after the operation.
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Aug. 14, 2006, 5:01am
  • by Derek
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Wasn't Hank drowning in the pool during the episode so she didn't actually see him?
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Aug. 14, 2006, 10:27pm
  • by Frankie
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He was, but Kim asked about him.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 12:44am
  • by Rup
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Definetly one of the best episodes I have seen in a while.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 12:37am
  • by Mike
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I agree, that was a truly excellent episode. I caught the Kim not knowing who Hank was thing as well. I guess you can shrug it off as saying Kim didn't really care who Hank was at the time?
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Aug. 12, 2006, 1:15am
  • by Steve W
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I'm guessing that Assassinanny 911 was written after this episode, but it ended up airing before it. Maybe it was done being animated first or something. That's why Kim didn't recognise Hank, and she calls him 'the Scooby Doo kid' in Assassinanny 911.

I loved the 1980s Billy Quizboy bit. And Brock going all psycho, running around naked covered in blood carrying a decapitated head. Another good episode!
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Aug. 12, 2006, 2:11am
  • by Mike
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Yes as far as production order goes, Assassinanny is #16 and this episode is #15, but that may or may not be relevant since the first two episodes of this season were #20 and #19 and obviously they came first. The ordering is fairly deliberate, I think, so I think it may just be an oversight when Jackson and Doc were laying out the airing order. I guess.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 7:44am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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Doc & Jackson just can't stop with da greatness can they??? Even though I haven't seen the episode, sounds like this is another classic. Question, where would you rank this episode from 1 to 6 where 6 is the highest and 1 is the lowest??? I'm just curious because thanks to that godfuckingforsaken invention called "Dial-up" I can't watch it. Lucky Bastards
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Aug. 12, 2006, 1:34am
  • by Mike
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I would say it's damn close to 6
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Aug. 12, 2006, 1:48am
  • by Doctor SnOZ the Rankinator
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Good episode. Better than the last. Great back story too. I'd give it a four or five. I still think assassinanny is the best...this one is close to the season opener...so close...
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Aug. 12, 2006, 4:55am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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Fuck you "Dial Up!!!!!
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Aug. 12, 2006, 1:54am
  • by jake
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anyone got a direct link to this show? i'm at work and my comp keeps lockin up on the adultswim page. it'd look like:

mms://wms-dtc1n-vip.stream.aol.com/turner/gl/cartoon_net/adultswim/fridaynightfix/247/vb16_pt1_Toon_2005.wmv

i can't figure out what the address is tonight- please help
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Aug. 12, 2006, 1:58am
  • by Steve W
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It didn't work for me at first with Netscape either. I loaded the page in Firefox and it worked fine. Try a different browser.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 2:13am
  • by jake
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not allowed to get another browser here :-\
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Aug. 12, 2006, 2:55am
  • by D
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mms://wms.stream.aol.com/turner/gl/cartoon_net/adultswim/fridaynightfix/247/venturebros/venture_15_pt1_Toon_2005.wmv

I tried opening the link you posted and got video but no sound. Do you get the same result? Do you have links to the other episodes?
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Aug. 13, 2006, 9:25am
  • by D
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Nevermind, I'm getting sound now... Not sure what the problem was. I'm still interested in links to the other episodes.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 9:28am
  • by jake
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well, if you change the 15 to another number, that works sometimes. just depends on if adultswim still has the files still in the system. there's potential to figure out the method, but i haven't researched it much.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 11:09pm
  • by D
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OK, after a lot of trial and error I've determined the URL of every season two episode except for "Powerless." If anyone knows the URL for "Powerless," I'd really like to have it.

Someone supposedly linked to "Powerless" at http://kvance.livejournal.com/959068.html , but the links don't work for me.
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Aug. 14, 2006, 4:49am
  • by D
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Good news everyone! I've managed to get the address of the "Powerless" stream. Thanks to those that helped.
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Aug. 19, 2006, 11:02am
GOOD MOTHER F@#$!@# HOLLY SHI235235T!
THAT WAS A WHALE OF AN EPISODE!
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Aug. 12, 2006, 2:19am
  • by B McClure
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That was... the most awesome Venture Bros. episode... ever. I'm serious. That was pure, unbridled fun. Oh my god. I don't think I've ever laughed that much before. Wow... bravo to Publick and Hammer... that was amazing.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 2:45am
  • by Gumby
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Absolutely loved the bit with Dr Orpheus giving Triana the "Facts of Life" speech ; and Phantom Limb trying justifying himself to Dr Girlfriend.
Overall another great episode, looks like Hank and Dean may even have their very own nemeses, how cool is that?
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Aug. 12, 2006, 3:23am
Every episode so far this season has just totally blown me away. They just keep being utterly awesome.

"It's like a guy with a fever is yelling in my pants!"

I want to see Kim become a supervillain.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 3:46am
  • by LBJ
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This is my favorite so far this season, hands down! Lots of laughs in this one. But I hope someone fixes poor Helper....
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Aug. 12, 2006, 5:08am
Thinking about time lines, I think they created this episode Early... anyone know the production code for it? because some continuity errors appear on my mind... not just kim not knowing (or caring) who hank is. but others
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Aug. 12, 2006, 6:07am
  • by GoldS
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This was production number 15 (Second episode produced for the second season). Expect similiar wonkiness for the next episode, which has production number 14.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 11:49am
I've never commented on this board before... kinda assumed it was a longer process...
To be totally honest, I wasn't very impressed with the last 2 episodes. I thought "Escape to the House of the Mummies" was an experiment gone wrong, but I was glad others liked it, and "20 Years to Midnight" just didn't quite click. After the brilliance of the first 3 I was worried VB season 2 was running low on steam. That said: HOLY CRAP! "Victor Echo November" is easily within my top 6 favorite episodes of all time, and I think Publick and Hammer did a fantastic job on the entire thing. I get the feeling they really hit their stride when they go for the Seinfeldy dialogue and situations, where something interesting is happening, but the focus is on how two or three distinct characters react to that event and each other, or just pass the time while others are dealing with it.
It seems at this point you could take any single character or set of two from the show and create an entire spinoff centered around them, because that's just how evolved, interesting, and developed they all are.
This wasn't abundantly clear from many of the episodes in the first season, so I just hope Adult Swim continues to push more people to watch this show, because it is FREAKIN AWESOME.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 6:59am
  • by cuavsfan
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Wow... this is right there with Assasinanny... maybe even better... A few minutes into this ep I started thinking that they better be working on the season 2 DVD now, because it needs to come out ASAP when the season ends...

This definately seems like it comes before Assasinanny due to the whole "Scooby Doo kid" thing... on the [as] schedule it is tough to tell the original order, and epguides.com is also confusing...

Hard to pick out just a few things, but a couple of great moments were:
Triana explaining Hank and Dean to her friend (Kim, was it?)...
The multiple stories about Billy and Phantom (along with the end w/ Billy)...
21 and 24 throughout...
Brock in hardcore protect the family mode...
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Aug. 12, 2006, 7:26am
  • by Jarrod Harmier
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The multiple versions of the origin of Phantom Limb remind me of an episode of "Batman: The Animated Series" that deals with the way three diffeerent kids each see Batman. One of the versions is based on the old campy Adam West series while another is based on the Frank Miller version from "The Dark Knight Returns".
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Aug. 18, 2006, 6:03am
  • by muaddib5
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"Dude, stop wailing on my junk!"
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Aug. 12, 2006, 9:35am
  • by G-Man
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"It's like a guy with a fever is yelling in my pants!" LOL

This episode established in my mind that Dean is Rusty's clone and Hank is Brock's.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 10:37am
  • by henk
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What was with Trianna's eyes?

No pupils!
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Aug. 12, 2006, 10:54am
  • by Bhaakon
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Being that I love to nitpick, I noticed that Triana was driving on the wrong side of the road in that split-screen dealie.

Maybe she just got wasted in perperation for her big date.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 11:49am
  • by Steve W
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The lines on the road were white, meaning it was a one-directional multilane road, like a highway. So it didn't matter which lane she was in.

The whole thing with Triana's eyes was pretty weird. She looked like she had redeye like you'd get with flash photography.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 10:39pm
  • by Onegin
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According to Wikipedia, Doc Hammer has stated that the episodes are being shone out of order and November comes before Assassinanny, which explains not only the continuity issues, but also why he left them with a bodygaurd for 2 days when he used to leave them alone for a week a year (he wasn't worried about Phantom Limb reneging his promise back then).
Anyway, I think this season is easily the best show on television right now, even if you don't take into account how few other shows are premiering episodes. I've watched all of them over and over again and they're all fantastic in every respect.
I hope they develop Dean and Triana's relationship--or, more precisely, lack there of--more later in the season. I think there's a lot of potential there.
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Aug. 12, 2006, 6:20pm
  • by richard
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I would eventually like to see why brock is so loyal to the venture family. we saw in this episode that he actually considers himself part of it so there's gotta be a reason why. i hope we find out this season. there really seems to be no reason why so far, considering the fact that doc venture is suck a d*ck and the boys can simply be reanimated, or whatever it is they can do.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 3:18am
  • by G-Man
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Here's my take, at the start of the episode when Hank was acting up, Rusty called Brock to come in and straighten him out. On Dean's BD Rusty took him out and bought him the "speed suit".
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Aug. 13, 2006, 5:19am
  • by LordSinister
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I bet Sampson is the third "Venture Brother" like in the Marvel Universe. That would be really cool
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Aug. 14, 2006, 8:26am
  • by Justin
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I, too, am amazed at Brock's loyalty to the family. I'm wondering why he was in such a rush to protect the boys when we all know that they are *just* clones.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 3:58am
  • by Mr. Z
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Even though they are just clones, Jackson has stated that Brock feels an intense dedication to his ultimate mission--protect the Venture family. Admittedly, Dr. Venture can just clone his troublesome offspring at any moment's notice, but Brock would still beat himself up knowing that he failed in using his incredibly violent skills to save the two junior grade Stretch Armstrongs.
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Aug. 13, 2006, 4:36am
  • by Char
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Is it hard for anyone else to watch Phantom Limb? You'd think I'd be used to it by now but it's always so strange to see him walk or do anything really.
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Aug. 14, 2006, 3:15am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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I never thought a white man could make a car...no fuck that this is more than a cartoon this is a fucking legacy. But anyways as I was saying I never thought a white man could make something so goddamn funny. I see what you guys meant about this episode. This is up there with "Assassinanny 911" maybe even better. Brock is a damn psycho. That part where that commando thought he was dying even though Brock didn't kill him was funny as hell. Hank is a fucking moron when it comes to dating. If he is a clone of Brock, he didn't inheirit his way with women. Who shows up for a date in a Batman costume??? Awww shit I can't wait for the next episode. They just keep getting better and better. I guess white people can make bad-ass shows too. I thought "The Boondocks" was the greatest show on TV but "The Venture Bros." beats it by a long shot..............and no I ain't no racist.......................
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Aug. 14, 2006, 5:16am
  • by Doc Kneezy Fan
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I'd like to personally thank Doc Kneezy for making this the most entertaining Discussion Family on the internet. If it weren't for a weekly "Fuck you DIAL UP!!, a "What the Fucking Fuckity-Fuck was THAT about", or my favorite "All you Motherfuckers know how I feel like now" (that one must be read like Jay from the Kevin Smith movies for full effect), I wouldn't have any real reason to open my firefox in the morning. So I'd like to say this Doc. Keep it up and God bless you!
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Aug. 15, 2006, 5:45am
  • by Doc Kneezy
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Finally, some appreciation.
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Aug. 16, 2006, 11:07pm
  • by TheBlack-Tiger
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Doc. Ive been watching cartoons for 33 years now. Damn, just damn!!! This show is the shit! by the way, whats up with you and referencing old rock bands???
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Aug. 18, 2006, 1:40pm
  • by Doctor SnOZ the Undead
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You never thought a white man could make a car??? I know Fords suck....but...i guess you drive a honda...
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:17pm
  • by Doctor SnOZ the Undead
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You never thought a white man could make a car??? I know Fords suck....but...i guess you drive a honda...
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:17pm
  • by Doc Kneezy Fan
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Hey Buddy, he was going to say CARtoon but cut himself off the signify the importance of The Venture Bros as a show. Maybe if you spent some time listening to what the man has to say and stopped criticizing, you could learn something. I got your back Kneez.
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Aug. 18, 2006, 6:29am
Is Brock really fired, or was that a Venture spur-of-the-moment kind of thing?

Great episode. I loved how Brock was carrying that guild operative's head... classic. Can't wait for the next one... they just keep getting better and better.
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Aug. 14, 2006, 4:41pm
  • by ??
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DAB!!
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Aug. 14, 2006, 7:36pm
  • by Mass Moblin
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Are they clones? Quoting Dr. Venture (when Hank and Dean are fighting about who started it) " ... No I STARTED IT! In a moment of passion, and I'll end it just as quick."
And remember, Brock did go to college with Doc Venture. The Doc (a longtime friend) is probably the only family Brock has left. If I was a villain, I would have taken out his family!
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Aug. 14, 2006, 11:17pm
  • by cpc65
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Anyone else think that Dr. Girlfriend is going to go back to being a supervillian on her own again (possibly with Kim as her #2)? I wouldn't mind seeing that. She seems to be completely fed up with Phantom Limb and not ready to get back together with the Monarch yet. She seems to have it together more than those two do.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 1:02am
  • by Steve W
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It would be hilarious if Dr. Girlfriend started dating Dr. Venture. She had a nice time with him in Mid-Life Chrysalis, after all. You can only imagine how berzerk The Monarch would get if his arch-enemy started going out with his ex-girlfriend.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 1:47am
The bathroom stuff was excellent, especially the Henchmaen's slight coversation with Brock Sampson. and #24's reaction. http://venture-henchmen.ytmnd.com/
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Aug. 15, 2006, 3:14am
  • by Doctor SnOZ the Civ Champ
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same thought had crossed my mind too...i guess we will have to wait and see!!!
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:19pm
Man, did I get my hopes up today when the iTunes Music Store said it was offering "Fallen Arches" for sale, not "Victor. Echo. November." Alas, it has the "Fallen Arches" name, but the content is "Victor. Echo."

HOWEVER (spoilers), while the file may not have contained the entertainment, it DID contain the "Fallen Arches"' episode description, which I reprint here:

"'Fallen Arches': When the Guild of Calamitous Intent finally approves Dr. Orpheus for his very own arch nemesis he calls upon old friends The Alchemist and Jefferson Twilight to resurrect their former super-team, The Order of the Triad. While they audition supervillain candidates at the Venture Compound, a jealous Doc isn't about to let Orpheus steal the show. Let loose the Walking Eye!"

I cannot wait. Byron is my favorite character.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 6:15am
Incidentally, they've since fixed the file name and desciption. I caught a blip.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 6:19am
  • by Char
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I'm really excited for that one too. Somewhere on Jackson's blog he mentions Doc writing a script about Orpheus' new arch-villian being quite possibly the best of the season, so that mean's it's gotta be good.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 4:47pm
  • by Steve W
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That's odd, I thought the next episode was Love-Bheits. Ah well, I guess we'll find out in a few days.
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Aug. 16, 2006, 2:29am
Man, did I get my hopes up today when the iTunes Music Store said it was offering "Fallen Arches" for sale, not "Victor. Echo. November." Alas, it has the "Fallen Arches" name, but the content is "Victor. Echo."

HOWEVER (spoilers), while the file may not have contained the entertainment, it DID contain the "Fallen Arches"' episode description, which I reprint here:

"'Fallen Arches': When the Guild of Calamitous Intent finally approves Dr. Orpheus for his very own arch nemesis he calls upon old friends The Alchemist and Jefferson Twilight to resurrect their former super-team, The Order of the Triad. While they audition supervillain candidates at the Venture Compound, a jealous Doc isn't about to let Orpheus steal the show. Let loose the Walking Eye!"

I cannot wait. Byron is my favorite character.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 6:16am
  • by Holy Dammit Christmas
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I don't know if any one has thought of this, but Hank and Dean could be twins. Fraternal twins I mean. Meaning that the mother of Hank and Dean could have release two eggs and had them fertilized by the same man or two different men. And now the grand conclusion to my hypothesis.

Dr. Venture and Brock fucked the same woman and they both got her pregnant at the same time.

Not meaning that they fucked her at the same time just that they both fertilized an egg. From what i read its possible but unlikely. To me it makes sense why hank is more like brock and why dean is more like Dr. Venture.

Also, this was a great episode.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 6:59am
  • by Richard
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I think they are Brock and Dr.V's clones. Hank of Brock, Dean of the Dr.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 10:15pm
  • by The-alchemist
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Someone has been watching Nip/Tuck (FxNetwork).
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Aug. 16, 2006, 5:28am
  • by Holy Dammit Christmas
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Actually i have never seen the show. I'm just a loser with too much free time.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 6:04am
  • by Doctor SnOZ the Freehanded
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it is a sound theory...one I haven't thought of! it does seem possible for brock and thaddius to have impregnated a woman around the same time...I would like to also point out that the boys must have a mother...most of the clone talk on the chatroom from some people seem to like the theory that the boys are straight clones from Thad and/or Brock...Dr.V mentions the boys mother several times in season one...remember mid-Life chrystalsis? thus the boys HAVE a mother...her story is a mystery
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:27pm
  • by JoeShmo
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I do like the theory that Hank is Brock's son, but nobody has brought up the fact that in Dia de los Dangerous! Dr Venture took a kidney from both Hand and Dean. If Hank isn't blood related to Dr. Venture, then there would have to be many extremely coincidental similarities between Brock and Dr V. for the kidney transplant to work (ie, same blood type, etc.). Of course, some might consider this an extremely rigid constraint in a venture world that doesn't always have an exact basis in reality, especially in the area of science.
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Aug. 18, 2006, 7:54pm
  • by WorstServedCold
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I don't know if this is just me, but I find I can watch the better episodes over and over without really getting tired of them... like, multiple times in a week. Having seen it this many times, I haven't noticed the errors that other people keep bringing up, so I'm hoping the capsule shows what's up. The only real error that I can find is that 21 calls shotgun on the Stanza, but in the driving scene he's back in cargo. Of course, the Monarch is a super villain. As for Triana on the wrong side of the road, I used to do that too, while shouting "LOOK WE ARE IN ENGLAND!"... so it could be intentional. Some other things have also come to mind:
I'm going to have to figure out a way to get a screencap of Billy's face when he's getting zapped to use as my buddy icon. Best single image in the history of the world.
I'm sort of uncomfortable with all the referencing to old bands. Brock's Zepplin ones work, but really, who has heard of Jesus Jones, Yazz, or Republica?
Kim and Dr. Girlfriend teaming up brings thoughts unbidden to my mind. I hope it's tastefully done.
If this show somehow dies on adultswim... I mean, I get the feeling it's going strong, but just in case... I could totally see the SciFi channel picking them up. That should be plan B.
No one has mentioned HELPeR's super killbot mode. How cool is that?
Ever notice how often you see people using the bathroom in this series? It's not jarring because it totally fits with the "Johnny Quest: Uncut" theme, but I just thought it was worth mentioning.
The entire final sequence, with kind of a Star Wars homage as well as making you think Venture was given a mechanical hand was pretty classy, but Billy Quizboy's delivery of the final line was priceless.

Jollyrancher82.... Never get henchmen.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 10:29am
  • by MoreFunThanOne
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I have heard of Jesus Jones, Yaz and Republica. So stop assuming that your ignorance is a good enough reason for VB to stop making fun of bands you missed. Do you really need more Hanson jokes? Not all the jokes are for you, ya know. Some are for ME!
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Aug. 15, 2006, 11:29am
  • by Frankie
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Agreed! Half the reason those references are fun is because they are so obscure.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 5:53pm
  • by Char
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Why am I so good to you?
http://i8.tinypic.com/24o81fr.png
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Aug. 15, 2006, 4:57pm
  • by Vivas
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Kim is gonna make one super-sexy villian. Also I love how they keep making jokes about Hank's "junk". Lastly, does anyone else find it odd that Triana hasn't had a sit down with Dean to tell him that he's officially dead? I mean I get why the other characters are staying mum, but why Triana? In the season opener she was totally against her father resurrecting them.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 11:40am
  • by Peter
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I'm thinking Orpheus took Venture's advice and told her they never really died. After all, she wasn't in the car when the boys were killed, so never actually saw their dead bodies.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 4:58pm
  • by Frankie
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She knew they were dead because she was asking her dad not to bring them back as zombies in Powerless.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 5:52pm
  • by TheHumanStain
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Doc Orpheus has the power to make people SLEEP!! Then to make them FORGET!!!! as was shown in 'Mummy', so he most likely used his mojo on Triana to ease her pain.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 6:16pm
  • by WorstServedCold
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I second stain's theory. Of course, it's also possible that as the respectable goth chick she is, she knows about it and accepts it as just another quirk.
What I'm wondering about is why we have yet to meet any real superheros, with the possible exception of some of the background people in Tag Sale. We know they are out there, one was mentioned by name in Powerless in the Face of Death by that Crocodile Rainman guy at the henchmen support group. So far the only people who come close to fitting the bill of "superhero" are Professor Impossible, since he's got superpowers and isn't flat-out evil (just a dick), Brock, and Dr. O. But Impossible seems content to remain a super scientist, Brock doesn't go out of his way to fight any villains not attacking the Ventures, and Orpheus as of yet doesn't even have anyone to foil, apart from various supernatural entities.
As long as I'm wondering about characters, what's with Brock's refusal to use guns? Normally in media, people who hate guns do so because they are apposed to violence, so I think we can write that one off. The only theory that I have is that Brock likes to be sporting about it... he's such a skillfull killer that he wouldn't get to experience the joy of the hunt if he can just pop anyone he sees.
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Aug. 15, 2006, 8:34pm
  • by cpc65
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I think you could consider the original Team Venture as superheroes in a way. The were shown in two first season eps, at the beginning of Ghosts of the Sargasso and were featured more prominently in Past Tense.

Captain Sunshine was also mentioned in the last episode of season one. 21 and 24 are visiting the Monarch in jail and he is asking them if they have completed certain tasks he asked of them since being incarcerated. "Have you returned the charred remains of Wonderboy to his beloved Captain Sunshine?". The Captain may have been on a bit of a vengence streak because of that when he took out Crimodile.
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Aug. 16, 2006, 1:37am
  • by TheHumanStain
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As Ah-nold said in 'Commando' - Brock likes "to stick the knife in - look him in the eyes to see what goes on in there when he TURNS it!"

And as Brock himself quoted "Move like an animal to FEEL the kill!"

Nice ass, Samson.
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Aug. 16, 2006, 5:21am
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I think Brock uses a knife exclusively simply because he likes the "personal feel". Let's face it, he's a psycho.

By the way- this was another awesome episode in what is shaping up to be an awesome season!
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Aug. 15, 2006, 9:06pm
  • by Vivas
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Well, I guess I can accept the Orpheus memory wipe of Triana by her father, but it would have been nice if it was made mention of at least in the episode.

Oh well...until next week people....now to get back to Guild Wars.
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Aug. 16, 2006, 3:22am
Was anyone else hoping Brock actually killed Phantom Limb at the end of the episode? Cause I sure was...
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Aug. 16, 2006, 10:15am
  • by Robert
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I thought he was just gonna cut him from ear to ear he might be able to take the guild plus its PHAMTOM LIMB not someone who is important plus it was personal so i think they would have stayed out of it especially with Brock Samson on the other end of the knife.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 12:26am
  • by Bonzo the Fifth
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If this had just been Brock we were talking about here, yeah, he would have gutted Limb like a fish. But Limb made a very legitimate threat to Brock that if he fell by Brock's hand, not only the Venture's, but everyone Brock's ever known would bite it. Given how thorough, competent, and efficient the 'real' Guild of Calamitous Intent is, that pretty much meant everyone from Steve Summers and Bigfoot to his transvestite boss from the OSI to Molotov Cocktease herself would have been pushing up daisies...

Sure, Brock's an animal, but as we've seen, he's still a human being, and very much has a heart... It's Dr. Venture who's the real cold hearted bastard in this show... lol
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Aug. 17, 2006, 2:07am
  • by The-alchemist
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Nice point "Bonzo the Fifth;" in the linear timeline we would later see two of those people who Brock loves enough to protect. Namely Molotov Cocktease and Hunter, both of whom we meet in 'Assassinanny911.' Thus further deepening his character, after all, we grasp his passion in that episode within the context of flask-backs. Apparently we see depth in character through his past.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:21am
  • by Raheem
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Truly one of the funniest non-Doc Hammer-written episodes I have seen. I'm not sure which was better: seeing Triana and her hot friend or seeing Brock naked and covered in blood. A definite must-see-again.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 4:16am
  • by Mike
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It was written by Doc Hammer :P
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Aug. 17, 2006, 4:21am
  • by BrockJunky
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OMG!! I've recorded and played the show about 6 times now. This about the best one for me. It seems to go by real fast, thats how good it is.
I just can't figure out what Dr. Girlfriend is saying to Fantom Limb. She's facing his back as he's trying to sop up the blood from the dead Mobster. Has anyone figured out what she is saying?
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Aug. 17, 2006, 9:59am
  • by MOZ
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OK. The absolute best line of the entire show is Dean's saying "nnnnaked!" It is such a crazy mixture of super-slueth "ah ha!" discovery and matter-of-fact banality.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 1:31pm
  • by Jarrod Harmier
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What I thought was really interesting is the way Triana responded when Kim asked if the Venture Brothers were cute. Triana immediately responded that Dean was kind of cute and goes into the whole Buddy Holly thing. However, when Kim asked if her date (Hank) was cute, Triana's reponse was non-commmital. She does mentions his hair color and that fact that he's athletic, but obviously--the audience at least--doesn't think that Hank is cute. It appears to me that that Triana picked Dean for herself and pawned Hank off on her friend.

Oh! It may or may be significant, but Buddy Holly was killed in a plane crash. And wasn't one of the many deaths of the Venture Brothers caused by a plane? Sure, it was due to being sucked into an engine, but it might count.
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Aug. 17, 2006, 5:55pm
  • by Questionably Sane
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Great observation you've pointed out. This season they've sofened up Triana. First season she was much colder and indifferent towards them. It's ever since they've came back from the dead that she's sofened up a bit. Oh I got a question did the Guild break into Dr. Orpheus's section of the compound? Does his section go Lock Down too? Could he have survived if the Guild walked in on him?
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Aug. 18, 2006, 5:32am
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Dr O was out teaching. Phantom Limb ordered 'four and robot' for the blackout. Maybe he doesn't know Dr O lives on the compound.
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Aug. 18, 2006, 6:50am
  • by TheHumanStain
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It may be too early to ask, but since it took Cartoon Network FOREVER to pick up a second season, early may be good - any word on whether there will be Season Three?
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Aug. 17, 2006, 8:21pm
  • by Jarrod Harmier
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The first few bars of music from the very beginning of the episode seem to be similar to the music from "Moral Orel".
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Aug. 18, 2006, 6:06am
  • by bankrupt
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I'm late to the party, I just got to watcing this episode tonight. This one is my favorite of this season so far. So many things going on, but they all mesh together well into one funny story. The most memorable moment after the first viewing is Hank thinking his date is a villan, possibly a medusa. He such an idiot.
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Aug. 18, 2006, 6:44am
  • by TheHumanStain
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Why no notes? I like the notes. I miss the notes. GIVE ME NOTES!!
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Aug. 19, 2006, 10:27pm
  • by Mike
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Sorry, I meant to do them during the day on Thursday, but I ended up having to do actual work, and then I was away for most of the weekend, but they're up now!
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Aug. 20, 2006, 8:22pm
  • by Amadeus
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NOTES!!!
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Aug. 20, 2006, 7:58am
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