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- by gnormie
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I think that kid is alive and is the son of Phantom Limb and Dr. Girlfriend.
I had this theory when I first saw the sizzle reel of season 5 on youtube and saw the kid with the stripe in his hair.
But now that I know he's a chain smoker who executes his prisoners for not using proper grammar? I had to be right.
I had this theory when I first saw the sizzle reel of season 5 on youtube and saw the kid with the stripe in his hair.
But now that I know he's a chain smoker who executes his prisoners for not using proper grammar? I had to be right.
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
Very much enjoyed this!
So . . . this may ruin My Grand Theory--which is mine--as to why Monarch hates Venture. It WAS because in college Venture laughed in class when the MONARCH [!--Ed.] read one of his stories.
Perhaps the relationship runs deeper?
And didn't Sphinx Commander get decapitated during the OSI promo-video?
Boom! Yummy!
So . . . this may ruin My Grand Theory--which is mine--as to why Monarch hates Venture. It WAS because in college Venture laughed in class when the MONARCH [!--Ed.] read one of his stories.
Perhaps the relationship runs deeper?
And didn't Sphinx Commander get decapitated during the OSI promo-video?
Boom! Yummy!
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
- by gnormie
- (unregistered id: 23FC056D27)
I'm just waiting for the revelation that the reason Monarch hates Rusty is for something that wasn't his fault. They make up and decide to be true friends...and then Mr. Gentleman blurts out Team Venture crashed the plane carrying the Monarch's parents for a really dumb reason.
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
I honestly never expected them to tease any backstory to this. And if there was one, that it'd be something ridiculously petty, like exactly what you said. I never thought about it, but Monarch's parents were extremely rich, maybe they were big-shots that regularly dealt with Jonas Sr? Will this tie into that flashback episode?
Anyway Shore Leave! I missed him.
Anyway Shore Leave! I missed him.
- by cpc65
Great episode. Somebody tell me they got a screenshot of the Monarch and Rusty playing as kids- I didn't get to see who Monarch's parents were. Also, wondering what Gary's going to do now that SPHINX is gone for good.
Meanwhile, next week looks great. The return of St. Cloud, albino races, Greek isles, even a little more Brock. Can't wait.
Meanwhile, next week looks great. The return of St. Cloud, albino races, Greek isles, even a little more Brock. Can't wait.
- by AldusValor
- by AldusValor
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- by Jory
- (unregistered id: 2EE76A7550)
Here you go, "H":
http://jorygriffis.com/images/etc/photo.jpg
Definitely an interesting development. I'm really enjoying the season so far.
http://jorygriffis.com/images/etc/photo.jpg
Definitely an interesting development. I'm really enjoying the season so far.
- by omnio(tard)
- (unregistered id: E887C6E33C)
A better screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/5eH2yhj.jpg
- by AldusValor
So another thing I just thought of: With SPHINX headquarters gone, the memory erasing machine goes with it. Reminiscent of when the clone tanks got wrecked. I mean technically, the OSI still has their psi ops (ex. Billy's mindwipe), but no more next door brain scrambler. Hope Hanks doesn't learn anything nasty again!
- by Mike
- by AldusValor
I just had an AHA! moment! Looking at the picture, little Malcolm's dad kinda looks like Braks dad from The Brak Show.
Does anyone else remember who else kinda looked like Brak's dad from The Brak Show?
How about a young Roy Brisby? Anyone?
Now obviously, Roy Brisby and The Monarch's dad are not one in the same as Roy Brisby is still (presumed) alive. But an uncle, perhaps? Roy Brisby had dealings with Jonas Sr. and it wouldn't be such a far stretch that the Monarch's father (assuming a relationship with Brisby) would've also had dealings with him.
Does anyone else remember who else kinda looked like Brak's dad from The Brak Show?
How about a young Roy Brisby? Anyone?
Now obviously, Roy Brisby and The Monarch's dad are not one in the same as Roy Brisby is still (presumed) alive. But an uncle, perhaps? Roy Brisby had dealings with Jonas Sr. and it wouldn't be such a far stretch that the Monarch's father (assuming a relationship with Brisby) would've also had dealings with him.
- by AldusValor
- by beb
- (unregistered id: A678E20E7F)
As much as I loved this episode I have a number of negative comments. One is the way Brock and Shoreleave treated Gary. Brock had a long fight with Gary and concluded with him saying that Gary knew how to throw a punch. Then he offered to work with Gary to bring down Monstroso. And Shoreleave had drafted Gary into SPHYNX saying he's one of the good guys now. So why did they not take him with them back into OSI? One can see where they might be ticked-off by Gary ruining their undercover mission but, hey, that's one of the hazards of working undercover. You can't warn friendly forces away. So it seemed to me that their acting like dicks towards Gary in this episode is a major retconning from Operation PROM, just like Princess Tinyfeet having a live-in lover all the while she was reconciling with Hatred.
I was sorry to see Hank acting like a total moron against after doing so well as "The Bat" last week.
Finally, why did Hatred pile all the recovered explosives in front of the Venture factory building, saying that will send them a message. Send who a message. The IEDs he recognized as coming from The Monarch, not SPHYNX, And I can't imagine Dean, rebellous or not, agreeing to blowing up some of his dad's property. Sure, Publick and Hammer wanted to wipe out SPHYNX once and forever but it seems like they mangled reason in this episode to do that.
Finally, one good comment - Hatred actually said something to Dean that was helpful.
What are the odds that Malcolm and Rusty are secretly half-brothers?
I was sorry to see Hank acting like a total moron against after doing so well as "The Bat" last week.
Finally, why did Hatred pile all the recovered explosives in front of the Venture factory building, saying that will send them a message. Send who a message. The IEDs he recognized as coming from The Monarch, not SPHYNX, And I can't imagine Dean, rebellous or not, agreeing to blowing up some of his dad's property. Sure, Publick and Hammer wanted to wipe out SPHYNX once and forever but it seems like they mangled reason in this episode to do that.
Finally, one good comment - Hatred actually said something to Dean that was helpful.
What are the odds that Malcolm and Rusty are secretly half-brothers?
1) OSI can't just 'take him [Gary] with them back into OSI' because it doesn't work that way. When the army hires a consultant to work with them on the base for YEARS and then the army decides to do the job themselves, they don't just walk up to the consultant and say 'want to keep doing what you're doing, but be in the army?'. That's not how it works. There is a lot of BS you have to go through first and the army doesn't hand jobs to their soldiers like that either (they are MUCH less efficient).
2) I love seeing Hank as Hank. Always.
3) Hatred recognized the explosives as The Monarch's and he assumed Gary placed them all there, because Gary is 'still a bad guy' in his view (either stole them from The Monarch and used them himself or is still working for The Monarch).
4) Go Hatred for caring.
5) I'd say decent (sharing a mother perhaps). Maybe a 30% chance.
2) I love seeing Hank as Hank. Always.
3) Hatred recognized the explosives as The Monarch's and he assumed Gary placed them all there, because Gary is 'still a bad guy' in his view (either stole them from The Monarch and used them himself or is still working for The Monarch).
4) Go Hatred for caring.
5) I'd say decent (sharing a mother perhaps). Maybe a 30% chance.
I see where you're coming from, but Gary's blunder ruined Brock's and Shoreleave's undercover mission to find Long Division. Under the circumstances, I think Brock and Shoreleave were justified in being angry. Later, when reporting to Hunter, Brock tried to complement Gary's abilities before being cut off. And at the end of the episode, Brock returned the crossbow to Gary and paid him a Star Wars-based compliment (Can you imagine how that must have warmed Gary's heart?).
Maybe you're reacting to Brock's and Shoreleave's behavior toward Gary throughout this season? I actually had a big problem with Brock's treatment of Gary in "What Color Is Your Cleansuit?" Brock was completely dismissive of Gary, despite--as you pointed out--having fought side-by-side with him against Monstroso. It appears that Brock treats Gary badly to appease/look good in front of Hunter. It isn't a particularly admirable trait.
Maybe you're reacting to Brock's and Shoreleave's behavior toward Gary throughout this season? I actually had a big problem with Brock's treatment of Gary in "What Color Is Your Cleansuit?" Brock was completely dismissive of Gary, despite--as you pointed out--having fought side-by-side with him against Monstroso. It appears that Brock treats Gary badly to appease/look good in front of Hunter. It isn't a particularly admirable trait.
I feel bad for Gary, but It's pretty understandable why they would be pissed at him.
The last they'd heard from the guy, he was a new SPHINX recruit, being given the keys to the entire building in an effort to cheer him up. The next thing they know, he's barging into their territory, messing up a delicate undercover mission for the sake of trying to play with the best of the best. This episode made it pretty clear he's not anywhere near that, yet.
If anything, Shore Leave and Brock have been extremely patient this episode, especially after finding out Gary tried to re-form SPHINX after hurting their reputations and essentially being told to go home.
Most anyone else would have gotten killed for that, but Shore Leave seems to find him charming in a "chubby underdog" way, and Brock's attitude kinda went into Dealing-With-Hank mode.
The last they'd heard from the guy, he was a new SPHINX recruit, being given the keys to the entire building in an effort to cheer him up. The next thing they know, he's barging into their territory, messing up a delicate undercover mission for the sake of trying to play with the best of the best. This episode made it pretty clear he's not anywhere near that, yet.
If anything, Shore Leave and Brock have been extremely patient this episode, especially after finding out Gary tried to re-form SPHINX after hurting their reputations and essentially being told to go home.
Most anyone else would have gotten killed for that, but Shore Leave seems to find him charming in a "chubby underdog" way, and Brock's attitude kinda went into Dealing-With-Hank mode.
One thing to add to what everybody else has said- Princess Tinyfeet never said she wanted to reconcile with Hatred. The Monarch and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch kidnapped her. They very well may have lied about everything. As far as I can tell, Hatred never even removed her ball gag.
That said, I agree with your point about how they treated Gary. They should have at least left him somebody who knew how to handle things if they weren't taking him with them. And they knew his abilities, so why would they expect him to do anything but use what he had to work with?
That said, I agree with your point about how they treated Gary. They should have at least left him somebody who knew how to handle things if they weren't taking him with them. And they knew his abilities, so why would they expect him to do anything but use what he had to work with?
Some of my favorite lines from this episode:
DR. GIRLFRIEND/MRS. THE MONARCH: "I'm a Brooklyn beard-o."
MONARCH: "You look like Zach Galifinak-i-as."
FORMER S.P.H.I.N.X. GUY WITH SNAKE OBSESSION: "Dude, you call him. I think he still hates me for finger-banging Theresa. Well, what do you call it? Aw, that's worse!"
And my favorite line, courtesy of the MONARCH: "And just as they start the pre-treat . . . ZAP! SIZZLE! Acid magnet! Hahahahaha!"
DR. GIRLFRIEND/MRS. THE MONARCH: "I'm a Brooklyn beard-o."
MONARCH: "You look like Zach Galifinak-i-as."
FORMER S.P.H.I.N.X. GUY WITH SNAKE OBSESSION: "Dude, you call him. I think he still hates me for finger-banging Theresa. Well, what do you call it? Aw, that's worse!"
And my favorite line, courtesy of the MONARCH: "And just as they start the pre-treat . . . ZAP! SIZZLE! Acid magnet! Hahahahaha!"
- by Ghobbi
- (unregistered id: 8A956CCA4E)
Am I the only one who thought this episode was just dull? I had a couple of laugh-out-loud moments early on (like the acid magnet line, even though I saw it coming in the split-second after Gary mentioned acid and magnets), but I'm really disliking the way this season is going so far. I enjoyed the first two episodes but there was something nagging at the back of my mind...I don't know if I'm subconsciously forcing myself to like these episodes more than I actually do...
I loved Season 4, and back when all the Hatred hatred was going on I was fully in Jackson and Doc's camp - I loved the character and I loved the way the show was developing, and I was pleased with their decision to move the show on the way they felt it should go, even if it risked upsetting some of the fans. And I thought 4.2 was much better than 4.1, but I noticed what I felt at the time was the writers bowing to pressure from fans, particularly with regard to Hatred - his paedophilia was a huge deal in 4.1, then suddenly it was pretty much forgotten about in 4.2 (did it even get mentioned or referenced?) - and I've a feeling this was a conscious decision on Doc and Jackson's part given the outcry from many fans. Now I feel we're being set up for Hatred leaving and Gary taking the role (every episode so far has had Hatred either contemplating leaving or otherwise showing dissatisfaction at his job) - something a vocal part of the fanbase has been crowing for for a while now.
I hope I'm wrong, because I hate to be the guy who makes this kind of criticism, and previously I've hated seeing this kind of comment on sites like this. I guess we all have our own idea of the way VB ought to go, and now everybody who hated Season 4 is getting their way and I'm not, so fair's fair...
I loved Season 4, and back when all the Hatred hatred was going on I was fully in Jackson and Doc's camp - I loved the character and I loved the way the show was developing, and I was pleased with their decision to move the show on the way they felt it should go, even if it risked upsetting some of the fans. And I thought 4.2 was much better than 4.1, but I noticed what I felt at the time was the writers bowing to pressure from fans, particularly with regard to Hatred - his paedophilia was a huge deal in 4.1, then suddenly it was pretty much forgotten about in 4.2 (did it even get mentioned or referenced?) - and I've a feeling this was a conscious decision on Doc and Jackson's part given the outcry from many fans. Now I feel we're being set up for Hatred leaving and Gary taking the role (every episode so far has had Hatred either contemplating leaving or otherwise showing dissatisfaction at his job) - something a vocal part of the fanbase has been crowing for for a while now.
I hope I'm wrong, because I hate to be the guy who makes this kind of criticism, and previously I've hated seeing this kind of comment on sites like this. I guess we all have our own idea of the way VB ought to go, and now everybody who hated Season 4 is getting their way and I'm not, so fair's fair...
i seriously doubt jackson and doc are trying to appease folks who dislike hatred. they love the big lug, as do many fans i'm sure. if they were afraid of offending people, i don't think they wouldn't have given him that characteristic in the first place. and as far as gary joining osi, i think think it's totally possible. this is a cartoon show and they can do what they want. i'm sure they would show him going through the necessary steps if that was the case. of course it's also possible that he becomes a lone wolf or just becomes part of team venture.
- by That Guy
- (unregistered id: 790AD826A7)
And I don't feel a damn bit of guilt about it, my friend hooked me into this show for a very specific character that Doc and Jackson have already confirmed for having little to no screen time this season. Why should I watch this show if the character I care about is missing, and the ones I care the least are going to feature prominently? I already tolerated the Venture family, but I'm not gonna even pretend I care about Pete and Billy.
Maybe I'm alone in noticing these things, but I loved the design of Brock's and Shoreleave's OSI jet. Its back-to-back seats remind me of Luke's snowspeeder in "The Empire Strikes Back," one of my all-time favorite Star Wars designs. Oh, and the animation of the jet was amazing.
Some other things I loved: (1)The S.P.H.I.N.X. commander--sitting in his Firebird, wearing gold-tinted shades, spying on his ex-lover--waking up the neighborhood with his uncontrollable screaming; (2) the parallel OSI/S.P.H.I.N.X. organizational meetings; and (3) the Monarch constantly referring to Doc as "Tad."
Such a great episode.
Some other things I loved: (1)The S.P.H.I.N.X. commander--sitting in his Firebird, wearing gold-tinted shades, spying on his ex-lover--waking up the neighborhood with his uncontrollable screaming; (2) the parallel OSI/S.P.H.I.N.X. organizational meetings; and (3) the Monarch constantly referring to Doc as "Tad."
Such a great episode.
- by cpc65
- by patty c.
- (unregistered id: 647864FBBB)
my review of Sphinx rising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5twGT7xRFU&feature=youtu.be
How do I edit comments? I posted this one before it was finished. Anyway I feel that "Sphinx Commander" is a too-obvious parody of Cobra Commander. I would have preferred if his name was more different like "Pharaoh" or something.
Also I'm really looking forward to next weeks show. According to the summary in concerns a dark secret from Doc's past. Oh yeah.
Also I'm really looking forward to next weeks show. According to the summary in concerns a dark secret from Doc's past. Oh yeah.
I actually thought the same thing. But what else holds the same presence as "____ Commander"? Alliteration would make you want to use 'sovereign' in place of 'commander', but that title is already used on the show. 'Pharaoh' or 'King' seem forced and have a royalty roots instead of army tactician/leader roots. My vote: "SPHINX Sergeant Supreme", abbreviated "S.S.S." with hissss sssspeach.
Does it matter. No. It's a 1 time joke character.
Does it matter. No. It's a 1 time joke character.
- by Captain V Bro.
- (unregistered id: F024DF824C)
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