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Let's Watch: A Very Venture Halloween
- by Mike
- by Mike
My two favorite shows are "Venutre Bros.," of course, and "Sherlock," both of which manage one shorter-than-average season every couple of years. It's torture! Why can't I just like some ridiculous CBS procedural, or "The Big Bang Theory," or some other crap they crank out every six months?
Oh well. If season six is as good as season five, it'll be well worth the wait.
Oh well. If season six is as good as season five, it'll be well worth the wait.
Indeed.
Finally getting to watch--and rewatch--the entire episode--Dean is told he is a clone. But J. K. Simons--"Bob"--tells him he does have a "Mommy" and says it happens like most--two drunk people who forget to use a condom.
Sooooooo . . . *checks notes scribbled in crayon on the padded walls* . . . Myra was ruled out because she implies she did not actually give birth to them and most likely Jackson and Doc thought "Myra? Nyaaah!"
So who?
Doc got drunk and lucking three times?
Finally getting to watch--and rewatch--the entire episode--Dean is told he is a clone. But J. K. Simons--"Bob"--tells him he does have a "Mommy" and says it happens like most--two drunk people who forget to use a condom.
Sooooooo . . . *checks notes scribbled in crayon on the padded walls* . . . Myra was ruled out because she implies she did not actually give birth to them and most likely Jackson and Doc thought "Myra? Nyaaah!"
So who?
Doc got drunk and lucking three times?
- by beb off-site
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Rusty has laid three different woman, apparently, all while he was 24-25, and then nothing for 25 years. Now many times he'd had sex with those three woman is obviously up in the air.
But if Myra wasn't good enough to be Hank and Dean's mother, who would be. Who would dump their off-spring on a neurotic 24 year old and never see them again. That's a sick woman who makes Myra look good by comparison.
But if Myra wasn't good enough to be Hank and Dean's mother, who would be. Who would dump their off-spring on a neurotic 24 year old and never see them again. That's a sick woman who makes Myra look good by comparison.
I am of the suspicion that she did not leave the boys so much as befell one of the many accidents that happen on the Venture Compound.
Notice that not much if anything is said about Rusty's Mom--there is a joke there I think . . . "Rusty's Mom" . . . I digress.
Or, more likely, Jackson and Doc have not sat down and figured out what happened to either of them. "Dude! We were tying to get Dr. O in an episode and you want to know about Rusty's Mom?!!"
Notice that not much if anything is said about Rusty's Mom--there is a joke there I think . . . "Rusty's Mom" . . . I digress.
Or, more likely, Jackson and Doc have not sat down and figured out what happened to either of them. "Dude! We were tying to get Dr. O in an episode and you want to know about Rusty's Mom?!!"
- by kijunshi
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*quietly waves "original boys are still alive and living a normal life with their mother" flag*
But some other potential options:
--It was dangerous for some reason for them to live with her, perhaps due to lifestyle
--she couldn't acknowledge them as her own because she was... married to someone else?
--she really, really didn't want children and Rusty convinced her to carry to term on this condition
--she is from ANOTHER DIMENSION
--she has amnesia for some reason
--she is dead
--she is in a coma
So, Doc and Jackson have a fair number of options here. I do think that the boys not being told their mother's identity, ever, at a point in time that they could remember it and put together the pieces, indicates that there's some danger to them (or to Rusty!) if he ever let them meet her/discover her.
Last thought: she was most likely the woman he lost his virginity to, no? Didn't he make a crack about how ugly his first woman was at some point?
But some other potential options:
--It was dangerous for some reason for them to live with her, perhaps due to lifestyle
--she couldn't acknowledge them as her own because she was... married to someone else?
--she really, really didn't want children and Rusty convinced her to carry to term on this condition
--she is from ANOTHER DIMENSION
--she has amnesia for some reason
--she is dead
--she is in a coma
So, Doc and Jackson have a fair number of options here. I do think that the boys not being told their mother's identity, ever, at a point in time that they could remember it and put together the pieces, indicates that there's some danger to them (or to Rusty!) if he ever let them meet her/discover her.
Last thought: she was most likely the woman he lost his virginity to, no? Didn't he make a crack about how ugly his first woman was at some point?
- by tomben
- by tomben
Maybe the boys are not really Rusty's children, but his brothers from a clandestine relationship between the Monarchs mother and Thaddeus Sr.? The original boys were killed in some horrible accident (possibly the same plane crash that killed Mr. Monarch and turned the Monarchs father into Venturion) and Venture Sr. kept the clones hidden and unhatched until a later time? Of course, that would mean Rusty was complicit in such.
I wanted to watch the re-air but had another important commitment. I just watched the episode again on iTunes, though, and was absolutely blown away by Dr. Orpheus's episode-ending speech about the true meaning of Halloween. It was, to my mind at least, the most moving scene of season five.
I was also impressed by the way Doc Hammer handled Dean's discovery that he and Hank are clones. In the past, I've been critical of Doc's [increasingly] soap opera-esque tendencies, but I found the Big Reveal in this episode to be perfectly executed. It didn't feel like it was forced, or like it was a substitute for good writing. It just felt . . . right. And I thought Dean's reaction was spot-on, too. As perfectly true to character as Hank's reaction on learning the news in the season finale.
Other things I loved:
1. Dermott's lines. Pretty much all of them. "I'm the Crow. Drink it up, Hank."And how about, "Go home, put on the Kids Bop version of 'Thriller,' and watch the Peanuts special like every year." Classic teenage jack-ass dialogue.
2. The conversation between Hank and Dermott about Chex Mix.
3. The boys' makeshift haunted houses, particularly the haunted pyramid one. In an older interview--I think on the public radio show "The Sound of Young America"--Jackson talked about his childhood attempts at do-it-yourself haunted houses. I'd bet that's where Doc Hammer got his inspiration.
4. The designs of the interior of Ben's house. Very cool, particularly when lit only by Dean's flashlight.
All in all, a very good episode. Except the part about "pleasure toast," which was f@<king disgusting!
I was also impressed by the way Doc Hammer handled Dean's discovery that he and Hank are clones. In the past, I've been critical of Doc's [increasingly] soap opera-esque tendencies, but I found the Big Reveal in this episode to be perfectly executed. It didn't feel like it was forced, or like it was a substitute for good writing. It just felt . . . right. And I thought Dean's reaction was spot-on, too. As perfectly true to character as Hank's reaction on learning the news in the season finale.
Other things I loved:
1. Dermott's lines. Pretty much all of them. "I'm the Crow. Drink it up, Hank."And how about, "Go home, put on the Kids Bop version of 'Thriller,' and watch the Peanuts special like every year." Classic teenage jack-ass dialogue.
2. The conversation between Hank and Dermott about Chex Mix.
3. The boys' makeshift haunted houses, particularly the haunted pyramid one. In an older interview--I think on the public radio show "The Sound of Young America"--Jackson talked about his childhood attempts at do-it-yourself haunted houses. I'd bet that's where Doc Hammer got his inspiration.
4. The designs of the interior of Ben's house. Very cool, particularly when lit only by Dean's flashlight.
All in all, a very good episode. Except the part about "pleasure toast," which was f@<king disgusting!
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