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Let's Watch: A Very Venture Halloween

Let's Watch: A Very Venture Halloween
The season may be over but that doesn't mean we still can't talk about episodes. To help with the transition from a bunch of brand new episodes to no new episodes for a while, let's watch and talk about "A Very Venture Halloween" together! This is only the second or third time it's been shown on TV, and since it takes place during season five (in fact, it takes place during the season five premiere) it seems like the perfect episode to go out on. Since this isn't a new episode the discussion will probably be smaller than the previous ones, but hopefully just as good! And if you want to look at the original discussion, look no further! Also maybe having seen season five will reveal some stuff about this one, who knows? Either way, enjoy!
I said the discussion will be smaller, not missing!
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Jul. 29, 2013, 1:33am

I missed the beginning the first time around.

Stupid Question: will this be on the next set of DVDs?

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Jul. 29, 2013, 2:46am
This along with the Shallow Gravy special should be on the next DVD/Blu-Ray, yes.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 3:35am

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Jul. 29, 2013, 3:43am
Everyone is still in denial that there won't be any new episodes for a year or so.

Maybe we'll get another special in 2014. Maybe for Arbor Day or Shark Week.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 4:38am
  • by TheLaughinManFL
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I believe I heard Jackson and Doc say there will be no specials. They're going to try and increase production and get the next season out earlier this time.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 9:36am
I heard them say the same thing. January 2015 is a likely target for Season 6 at this point. And a year later we can look forward to the long 90 min long special!
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Jul. 29, 2013, 10:58am
My two favorite shows are "Venutre Bros.," of course, and "Sherlock," both of which manage one shorter-than-average season every couple of years. It's torture! Why can't I just like some ridiculous CBS procedural, or "The Big Bang Theory," or some other crap they crank out every six months?

Oh well. If season six is as good as season five, it'll be well worth the wait.
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Aug. 2, 2013, 10:13pm
  • by Captain V Bro.
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This episode is still rock solid.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 3:00am

Finally getting to watch--and rewatch--the entire episode--Dean is told he is a clone. But J. K. Simons--"Bob"--tells him he does have a "Mommy" and says it happens like most--two drunk people who forget to use a condom.

Sooooooo . . . *checks notes scribbled in crayon on the padded walls* . . . Myra was ruled out because she implies she did not actually give birth to them and most likely Jackson and Doc thought "Myra? Nyaaah!"

So who?

Doc got drunk and lucking three times?
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Jul. 29, 2013, 3:43am
Oh El Damn it: "Ben" and "lucky!" >_<
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Jul. 29, 2013, 3:47am
I'm thinking it's probably more than three times. Myra was around for a while and always had access to 'the Rusty' while being his bodyguard. I'm putting Myra down for 10 to 15.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 11:01am
  • by beb off-site
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Rusty has laid three different woman, apparently, all while he was 24-25, and then nothing for 25 years. Now many times he'd had sex with those three woman is obviously up in the air.

But if Myra wasn't good enough to be Hank and Dean's mother, who would be. Who would dump their off-spring on a neurotic 24 year old and never see them again. That's a sick woman who makes Myra look good by comparison.
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Jul. 29, 2013, 12:52pm
I am of the suspicion that she did not leave the boys so much as befell one of the many accidents that happen on the Venture Compound.

Notice that not much if anything is said about Rusty's Mom--there is a joke there I think . . . "Rusty's Mom" . . . I digress.

Or, more likely, Jackson and Doc have not sat down and figured out what happened to either of them. "Dude! We were tying to get Dr. O in an episode and you want to know about Rusty's Mom?!!"
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Jul. 29, 2013, 7:28pm
  • by kijunshi
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*quietly waves "original boys are still alive and living a normal life with their mother" flag*

But some other potential options:

--It was dangerous for some reason for them to live with her, perhaps due to lifestyle
--she couldn't acknowledge them as her own because she was... married to someone else?
--she really, really didn't want children and Rusty convinced her to carry to term on this condition
--she has amnesia for some reason
--she is dead
--she is in a coma

So, Doc and Jackson have a fair number of options here. I do think that the boys not being told their mother's identity, ever, at a point in time that they could remember it and put together the pieces, indicates that there's some danger to them (or to Rusty!) if he ever let them meet her/discover her.

Last thought: she was most likely the woman he lost his virginity to, no? Didn't he make a crack about how ugly his first woman was at some point?
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Jul. 30, 2013, 12:38pm
Could The Monarch have a sister?
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Apr. 2, 2015, 11:49am
  • by Askai
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There's no information about it, but probably he hasn't got any sister.

There's still an option that he is somehow related to Venture. The photo can be prof of it.
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Jun. 3, 2015, 2:48pm
Maybe the boys are not really Rusty's children, but his brothers from a clandestine relationship between the Monarchs mother and Thaddeus Sr.? The original boys were killed in some horrible accident (possibly the same plane crash that killed Mr. Monarch and turned the Monarchs father into Venturion) and Venture Sr. kept the clones hidden and unhatched until a later time? Of course, that would mean Rusty was complicit in such.
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Sep. 26, 2016, 1:07am
I wanted to watch the re-air but had another important commitment. I just watched the episode again on iTunes, though, and was absolutely blown away by Dr. Orpheus's episode-ending speech about the true meaning of Halloween. It was, to my mind at least, the most moving scene of season five.

I was also impressed by the way Doc Hammer handled Dean's discovery that he and Hank are clones. In the past, I've been critical of Doc's [increasingly] soap opera-esque tendencies, but I found the Big Reveal in this episode to be perfectly executed. It didn't feel like it was forced, or like it was a substitute for good writing. It just felt . . . right. And I thought Dean's reaction was spot-on, too. As perfectly true to character as Hank's reaction on learning the news in the season finale.

Other things I loved:
1. Dermott's lines. Pretty much all of them. "I'm the Crow. Drink it up, Hank."And how about, "Go home, put on the Kids Bop version of 'Thriller,' and watch the Peanuts special like every year." Classic teenage jack-ass dialogue.
2. The conversation between Hank and Dermott about Chex Mix.
3. The boys' makeshift haunted houses, particularly the haunted pyramid one. In an older interview--I think on the public radio show "The Sound of Young America"--Jackson talked about his childhood attempts at do-it-yourself haunted houses. I'd bet that's where Doc Hammer got his inspiration.
4. The designs of the interior of Ben's house. Very cool, particularly when lit only by Dean's flashlight.

All in all, a very good episode. Except the part about "pleasure toast," which was f@<king disgusting!
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Aug. 2, 2013, 10:05pm
  • by Ghobbi
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Howdy, Lightning. Did you notice what looked like clone slug incubators in Ben's house? Also, a small error in the opening (superb as it was). They show us Halloween four years ago, three years ago, two years ago, then skip straight to this year.
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Sep. 26, 2013, 10:07am
  • by Captain V Bro.
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A very explosive episode for Dean and Orpheus.
And it's always great to see The Master return as Santa.

So... season six... where is it?
I'm dyin' fer it don't cha know?
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Aug. 5, 2013, 3:42am
  • by Anthropomorphic Cow Named Stan
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Happy B-Day Jackson!!!
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Sep. 14, 2013, 4:08pm
One year later...
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Jul. 28, 2014, 3:39pm
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Jul. 4, 2019, 11:34pm
It's a month old but there's not much news here for two years at a time, so whatever :) https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/the-venture-bros/281421/the-venture-bros-season-8-jackson-publick-doc-hammer


Jun. 7, 2019, 9:33pm
Okay, Venturoos. Here's what ya get for the Extras, at least on the DVD version. I felt it was a little light, but that's just my opinion. Deleted Scenes (as always) - Some are B&W sketches with the dialog, others are animated with the dialog. Ghost in the Pro-Blem - An extended view of the distorted images of events from the Pro-BLEM's point of view. Maybe there are some clues hidden in it if you like frame-by-frame advancing. Maybe not. Sirena Goes Off... - Cristin Milioti ad-libbing way more dialog than the script calls for. Poor Rocco. Promo - Basically the season 7 promo. Maybe there's Easter Eggs to find. I haven't done any extensive searching yet. If anyone finds any feel free to post them here!


Mar. 15, 2019, 1:34pm
I haven't seen a press release yet, but people on reddit say June 4, 2019 is when Season 7 is on bluray. https://www.reddit.com/r/venturebros/comments/b14aa2/june_4_2019/

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