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Eat The Pennies: New Episode Guide Layout
These things seem to take longer and longer as time goes by, but the capsule, notes and screengrabs for "What Color Is Your Cleansuit?" are finally up. Regulars of the site (or anyone who has viewed an episode guide before) will notice a difference in the layout. The notes are now inline with the capsule, which I hope will make things a little more coherent. Not that there were complaints about it before, but sometimes you gotta spice things up in a relationship that's going on nine years now.
Feel free to drop any thoughts on the new format in the comments or you can always use the handy contact form if you're shy. Also, as is the custom, let me know if there's anything I left out or made a mistake on, because I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff. If I use them, additional notes will always be credited, and if you have a user account you'll even get a sweet achievement for it. You know you want it.
Feel free to drop any thoughts on the new format in the comments or you can always use the handy contact form if you're shy. Also, as is the custom, let me know if there's anything I left out or made a mistake on, because I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff. If I use them, additional notes will always be credited, and if you have a user account you'll even get a sweet achievement for it. You know you want it.
- by Phil
I love the new format! I was never very much interested in the recaps as I've seen every episode ten bajillion times, but by including the notes mixed in with the recap it makes the recap more relevant to me by providing a bit more context for the reference if I should need it. Also, as a guy who didn't really care about the recaps so much as the notes, it was kind of a pain to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. Now I can read as I scroll!
This web site continues to be the best resource for all things Venture. I wouldn't change a thing for another nine years!
This web site continues to be the best resource for all things Venture. I wouldn't change a thing for another nine years!
- by Mike
Yeah I am not even sure how valuable the recaps are, to be honest. A few years ago I proposed getting rid of them entirely (just leaving some quotes) or reducing them in size a lot but people were resistant to that so I left them. It's probably the most time consuming part of the whole process, so I'm trying to reign it in a little bit for my own sake, but I do think integrating the notes and putting in more screencaps makes it work better.
- by cpc65
Great job as always, Mike. Especially as so much went down, and in an extra long episode to boot. Just a couple things I'd like to point out.
I'm pretty certain the out of phase intern said, "Kill me!" and not, "Help me!", which makes Doc's "Not until we ship" response all the more amusing.
Augustus St. Cloud said, "Gentleman, I've only deigned to join your organization" not, "deemed to join".
The closed captioning agrees with what I heard, but it can't always be trusted. Otherwise the capsule is gold.
I'm pretty certain the out of phase intern said, "Kill me!" and not, "Help me!", which makes Doc's "Not until we ship" response all the more amusing.
Augustus St. Cloud said, "Gentleman, I've only deigned to join your organization" not, "deemed to join".
The closed captioning agrees with what I heard, but it can't always be trusted. Otherwise the capsule is gold.
"Ben Grimm's" references the character from the Fantastic Four known as "The Thing".
Probably should mention that Quenya and Sindari are elvish languages in J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. (know this is pointed out in the show)
And while you're at pointing out references in the show...Martin Luther's 95 Theses posted in 1517 are referenced and Pete White gets Billy to fast-forward through his explanation and conclude with '1597' which was the year Lutheran Church was established.
The Monarch mentions the people have 4 arms like that "blue Hindu sculpture". Which must be a reference to Vishnu.
Matlock and Murder She Wrote were crime dramas in the late 80's to early 90's that were mostly targeting adults 40+.
Dean referencing "E-wok Village" was a Star Wars reference.
The Monarch references the old 1960's Hulk cartoon intro "now he's wrecking the town with the power of a bull, ain't no monster clown who is as lovable".
Remaining questions:
What was the 3-pointed symbol painted in blood over the Venture logo in the working
What was "Jessica" that Pete White was referencing?
The 4 armed people resemble something with their pointy ears and elongated head, but what?
The guys in the orange suits seem to resemble The Lizard from Spider-man. Confirmation?
"Lee-Hun-Took" is probably a reference to some movie or world.
St. Cloud having a wall of identical wigs to be cleaned and combed is a reference to something.
Billy says to St. Cloud "You must sterilize! Sterilize!" what is this referencing?
Probably should mention that Quenya and Sindari are elvish languages in J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. (know this is pointed out in the show)
And while you're at pointing out references in the show...Martin Luther's 95 Theses posted in 1517 are referenced and Pete White gets Billy to fast-forward through his explanation and conclude with '1597' which was the year Lutheran Church was established.
The Monarch mentions the people have 4 arms like that "blue Hindu sculpture". Which must be a reference to Vishnu.
Matlock and Murder She Wrote were crime dramas in the late 80's to early 90's that were mostly targeting adults 40+.
Dean referencing "E-wok Village" was a Star Wars reference.
The Monarch references the old 1960's Hulk cartoon intro "now he's wrecking the town with the power of a bull, ain't no monster clown who is as lovable".
Remaining questions:
What was the 3-pointed symbol painted in blood over the Venture logo in the working
What was "Jessica" that Pete White was referencing?
The 4 armed people resemble something with their pointy ears and elongated head, but what?
The guys in the orange suits seem to resemble The Lizard from Spider-man. Confirmation?
"Lee-Hun-Took" is probably a reference to some movie or world.
St. Cloud having a wall of identical wigs to be cleaned and combed is a reference to something.
Billy says to St. Cloud "You must sterilize! Sterilize!" what is this referencing?
- by Mike
"his Jessica" refers to the main character in Murder She Wrote, Jessica Fletcher (played by Angela Lansbury).
Someone on twitter explained the spray paint, which is a Klingon logo. I didn't know either.
I couldn't find anything about Lee-Hun-Took. I originally thought it was Lee-Han-Took, which would have made it a weird LOTR/Star Wars thing, but I think it's probably just gibberish.
All the rest is good stuff, too, I will add it eventually!
Someone on twitter explained the spray paint, which is a Klingon logo. I didn't know either.
I couldn't find anything about Lee-Hun-Took. I originally thought it was Lee-Han-Took, which would have made it a weird LOTR/Star Wars thing, but I think it's probably just gibberish.
All the rest is good stuff, too, I will add it eventually!
- by cpc65
I can field a few of these questions. (Dons geek hat)
"What was the 3-pointed symbol painted in blood over the Venture logo in the working" - Looks to me to be sort of like the symbol of the Klingon Empire.
""Lee-Hun-Took" is probably a reference to some movie or world." - My guess, as I mentioned in the main comments, is that it's taken from a combination of Bruce Lee, Attila the Hun, and Perigrin Took, all being most righteous dudes. But there could be other possibilities.
"St. Cloud having a wall of identical wigs to be cleaned and combed is a reference to something." - Possibly from the first Superman movie with Christopher Reeve. Lex Luthor (as played by Gene Hackman) had a bunch on wigs in his lair. Either Watch or Ward (I get those two mixed up) said it was "very Lex Luthor" of him to use his real name as his villain name, so the wig thing makes sense.
"Billy says to St. Cloud "You must sterilize! Sterilize!" what is this referencing?" - Captain Kirk's line to Nomad in "The Changeling" to get it to destroy itself as it was otherwise nearly invulnerable.
"What was the 3-pointed symbol painted in blood over the Venture logo in the working" - Looks to me to be sort of like the symbol of the Klingon Empire.
""Lee-Hun-Took" is probably a reference to some movie or world." - My guess, as I mentioned in the main comments, is that it's taken from a combination of Bruce Lee, Attila the Hun, and Perigrin Took, all being most righteous dudes. But there could be other possibilities.
"St. Cloud having a wall of identical wigs to be cleaned and combed is a reference to something." - Possibly from the first Superman movie with Christopher Reeve. Lex Luthor (as played by Gene Hackman) had a bunch on wigs in his lair. Either Watch or Ward (I get those two mixed up) said it was "very Lex Luthor" of him to use his real name as his villain name, so the wig thing makes sense.
"Billy says to St. Cloud "You must sterilize! Sterilize!" what is this referencing?" - Captain Kirk's line to Nomad in "The Changeling" to get it to destroy itself as it was otherwise nearly invulnerable.
- by cpc65
I'm not claiming that I'm definitively correct on the "Lee-Hun-Took" explanation, but please let me further explain my reasoning before dismissing it out of hand.
1. It's a society of college geeks and the Lee-Hun-Took is their leader / chosen one.
2. Bruce Lee kicked ass and is, or was, big with the college crowd, at least back in my day. He was sort of a leader in that he developed his own style of martial arts and started his own school and his legacy developed a CULT following.
3. I'm the least sure about the Attila the Hun part, but he was a powerful leader and kicked ass.
4. Peregrin Took went on to become the Thain (leader) of The Shire many years after the events in the LOTR concluded. And he did a little bit of ass kicking at the Battle of Gondor.
So, there you go. I know I'm probably reaching a bit on this, and I'd welcome some other possible explanations / theories, or better yet one from Doc and JP themselves. Anyone reading this who attends the VB panels at the cons take note!
1. It's a society of college geeks and the Lee-Hun-Took is their leader / chosen one.
2. Bruce Lee kicked ass and is, or was, big with the college crowd, at least back in my day. He was sort of a leader in that he developed his own style of martial arts and started his own school and his legacy developed a CULT following.
3. I'm the least sure about the Attila the Hun part, but he was a powerful leader and kicked ass.
4. Peregrin Took went on to become the Thain (leader) of The Shire many years after the events in the LOTR concluded. And he did a little bit of ass kicking at the Battle of Gondor.
So, there you go. I know I'm probably reaching a bit on this, and I'd welcome some other possible explanations / theories, or better yet one from Doc and JP themselves. Anyone reading this who attends the VB panels at the cons take note!
Very nice. I honestly liked the original way better but this works well too. A few notes though- the Faraday Cage is a real thing, as seen here at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage. Don't know if it's necessary to mention but Hatred's lines to the out of phase intern are pretty directly from A Christmas Carol. The intern says 'Kill me!' though- not 'Help me!'. The interns mutating into two distinct classes is a reference to the Eloi (the white cleansuits) and Morloks (the orange cleansuits) from The Time Machine. The sirens at the end of the day are a reference to this as well. Also, Slagathor is another name for an extremely ugly girl. It originally came from an end credits scene in She's Having A Baby but most people would know it from Scrubs.
The wikipedia works if you take away the period- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage .
One other thing (sorry for so many notes)- all the green cleansuits being called Tom or some variation thereof is a reference to a derogatory term field slaves used for slaves that worked in the house or acted really subservient to their master (like in Uncle Tom's Cabin), which fits in with the Roots scene in the E-Den.
- by cpc65
For anybody interested, there's a brief Doc and Jackson interview at Splitsider: http://splitsider.com/2013/06/talking-to-the-creators-of-venture-bros-about-the-new-season-and-playing-fuck-marry-kill-with-their-favorite-characters/ (I know it's about a week old but whatever, it's decent- nothing really new but still fun)
- by cpc65
I personally prefer the old format, and I miss the plot speculations and character notes (IE learning Hatred's first name) that would occur in particularly eventful episodes such as this, but I digress.
Mike, I don't know if you go exclusively go by the credits listed in the episode, but the credits omitted Jackson voicing Mile High and Hunter, so that could be something you'd want to correct for completionist's sake.
Mike, I don't know if you go exclusively go by the credits listed in the episode, but the credits omitted Jackson voicing Mile High and Hunter, so that could be something you'd want to correct for completionist's sake.
- by Mike
- by cpc65
- by AldusValor
Love the new layout. Like, a lot. But there's one note slash reference I didn't see. Dr. Venture's personal cleansuit is modelled after the one worn by Dr. No in the Bond filme by the same name, which was also reference in Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery being worn by Dr. Evil
- by cpc65
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