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by beb off-site
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Emotionally this is a big callback to the first season ep "Tag Sale, You're it." In that story the Monarch is trying to find some way of humiliating Doc Venture but comes to the realization that Rusty is such a failure at everything he's done that there's nothing the Monarch could do to make him feel worse.

In "The devil's Grip" is looks as if the Monarch is being to think he, too, is a terrible failure. And the way he keeps looking at the photo of him and Doc playing as children is clearly haunting him. Is he mourning his lost childhood or wondering how he ended up hating his childhood chum so intently.

Jul. 22, 2013, 1:25pm

by King Hippo
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this one was so deep. i could see the monarch trying to be friends with doc after this. maybe even quitting the villain thing for a minute. all the pieces are in place: no more cocoon, dr gf possibly joining the council, and realization that his job is kinda pointless. of course rusty would try to ignore monarch's attempts at friendship. i can't believe they actually had a heart to heart

Jul. 22, 2013, 2:52pm

by Lightning Lad
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Yeah, I didn't buy his bragging to Dr. Mrs. the Monarch, at all. As he was talking about how much more difficult and painful it is to crush a man's soul, I felt that he was really talking about himself. But hey, I could be wrong.

Jul. 22, 2013, 3:03pm

by Mike
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The thing is, did he even really crush Doc's soul? Doc seemed more bummed about the Monarch giving up than he did about his own life. They had a little moment when the Monarch let him go but it's not like it was a revelation for Doc that his life is kind of shitty. I almost want to think the things the Monarch said to Doc were genuine and he was putting on a brave face for Dr. Mrs. (so to speak). As said, his focus on the photo before she came in was sort of a tell on that end. We'll see, I guess!

Jul. 22, 2013, 3:44pm

by Hungry Hippo
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I'd like to think the Monarch had this plan to crush Venture's soul from the get go. Doc did say it was worse than torture.

Jul. 22, 2013, 4:42pm

by Lightning Lad
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No, I don't think the Monarch crushed Doc's soul, at all. What Monarch said to Doc was real; that's why Doc was so bummed out by it. I think he felt genuine pity for the Monarch, at least in that moment. And the Monarch's speech to Dr. Girlfriend seemed to me to be (1) an attempt to save face with her; and (2) a sort of Freudian revelation about his own soul being crushed.

In any event, it should be interesting to see what season six holds for the Monarch.

Jul. 22, 2013, 5:58pm

by gnormie
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The Monarch can't crush Rusty's soul...life already did that.

Jul. 23, 2013, 9:38pm

by The Mysterious 'H'
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"What can I do to this guy that life hasn't already?"

Jul. 28, 2013, 8:41pm

by Hank
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I think he was putting on a brave face for his wife as well. He usually talks to Dr. Venture in the over the top way, and rarely lets anyone see his other side. He told Rusty about Dr. Mrs. likely joining the guild, the Moppets taking over, and Gary quitting, with Doc being the FIRST person besides Dr. Mrs. that he's talked about any of that to.

Jul. 24, 2013, 5:55pm

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