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- by i agree on the hatred dislike
- (unregistered id: 58F6BBBD28)
you know I really like Hatred as a character, I like the fact that he is so over emotional and ridiculous. What is getting old and is in poor taste as can be is Pedo "gag" that has predominated this whole season. It's a huge let down and lazy to boot. Why do Jackson and Doc feel its funny that there is a character whose only role is to mug for jokes about pedophilia for six episodes? I can see this as a one off or an aside but its #@#!#!#! ridiculous and just boring at this point.
If Hatred was actually a character rather than a bunch of phrases built around a completely innapropriate joke I might like Him, but there's nothing to him, no backstory, no action, nothing. Just the same joke every episode
Either there is some big joke coming for all this patient with something that is meant to get on our nerves or this show is declining.
If Hatred was actually a character rather than a bunch of phrases built around a completely innapropriate joke I might like Him, but there's nothing to him, no backstory, no action, nothing. Just the same joke every episode
Either there is some big joke coming for all this patient with something that is meant to get on our nerves or this show is declining.
- by Creepy Crooner
- (unregistered id: C0BBF56792)
Um... what show have you been watching? I think you need to rewatch every episode this season, dude. Hatred has become far more than just a series of phrases built around pedophile jokes. The fact that they are treating his problem (and his quest for redemption) seriously while still milking it for laughs is a testament to Doc and Jackson's skills as comedy writers. The fact that you don't get this is a testament to the show going somewhere over your head.
- by ZJS
- (unregistered id: 89203D096F)
What Roscoe said in regards to this season. I don't find this season stale (in concept) at all; in fact, Sgt. Hatred as bodyguard was one of the things I was anticipating the most, and in my opinion, one of the few things that's been consistently delivering this season. I feel like this season's been weak not just for a lack of variety, but for a lack of... development, plot or humor-wise. I mean, maybe its just me, since I thought Season 3 was the best season yet for the development and maturation that the show underwent. This season though, I just feel hasn't been as funny. In addition, the plots have kind of stagnated, "Perchance to Dean" and "The Revenge Society" in particular. Even "Return to Malice" i enjoyed, not so much for gutbusting humor, but for the incredible characterization and progression. I feel like "Self-Medication"was the first episode so far to achieve the balance the first 3 seasons did. The entire episodes ("Perchance" and "Revenge").... nothing really happened up until the end arrived, and it didn't satisfy in the interim with jokes. I mean, this show is still better than most of what's on TV, I just feel like it hasn't been living up to the standard it set for itself.
- by Creepy Crooner
- (unregistered id: C0BBF56792)
Mr. X, I am not here to make sure everyone's feelings remain unhurt. I respect actual opinions of the show.
"If Hatred was actually a character rather than a bunch of phrases built around a completely innapropriate joke I might like Him, but there's nothing to him, no backstory, no action, nothing. Just the same joke every episode"
this does not qualify as such. This is an ignorant statement that shows that whoever wrote it either hasn't actually been paying attention to the show or doesn't get it. I am merely pointing that out. Thank you for your concern, though. ;)
"If Hatred was actually a character rather than a bunch of phrases built around a completely innapropriate joke I might like Him, but there's nothing to him, no backstory, no action, nothing. Just the same joke every episode"
this does not qualify as such. This is an ignorant statement that shows that whoever wrote it either hasn't actually been paying attention to the show or doesn't get it. I am merely pointing that out. Thank you for your concern, though. ;)
- by cpc65
- (unregistered id: C1880968BC)
Creepy, I think some people just don't like to feel like they're being talked down to as if you're the foremost authority on the show because you're the only one who sees things as Doc and Jackson intended. Unless you're actually one of them, your opinions and theories are no more or less valid then anyone else here until they are proven or disproved beyond mere interpretation. I do respect your opinions as much as any one else, but if someone doesn't "get it" then, oh well. Their loss.
BTW: You'd make a great Comic Book Guy. "Excuse me. I have a masters degree in folklore and mythology!"
BTW: You'd make a great Comic Book Guy. "Excuse me. I have a masters degree in folklore and mythology!"
- by Creepy Crooner
- (unregistered id: C0BBF56792)
If people make good points, even if I don't agree with them, I will respect those points. If people make asinine comments like the one I mentioned above then I will not. It is clear to me that "I agree on the hatred dislike"'s comment (that I cited above) falls squarely into the latter category. It has nothing to do with interpretation - this is not my opinion, this is fact. If you would like me to break down episode-by-episode how Hatred's character grows and why he is essential to the story at hand (both the overall themes of the season and in each individual ep) I can do that.
You are totally right - if someone doesn't get it then, oh well. I don;t understand why pointing out the fact is such a crime.
You are totally right - if someone doesn't get it then, oh well. I don;t understand why pointing out the fact is such a crime.
- by cpc65
- (unregistered id: C1880968BC)
I think we'll pass on that for now, but thanks anyway for the offer.
I will assume that Hatred has finally hit rock bottom, so hopefully he will finally start on his true path to recovery. Or change his name to Major Failure. As others have stated, kudos to Hank and Dean for taking matters into their own hands.
I will assume that Hatred has finally hit rock bottom, so hopefully he will finally start on his true path to recovery. Or change his name to Major Failure. As others have stated, kudos to Hank and Dean for taking matters into their own hands.
- by GilbertSmith
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Saying you want Hatred without the pedophile jokes is like saying you want Johnny without the drug addiction jokes, Rusty without all the absent-minded father jokes, or Brock without him killing guys. Hatred is defined by his vulnerabilities and insecurities, and if you're a recovering pedophile, that ranks pretty high up on your list of insecurities. The only way they could get rid of the pedophile jokes and keep Hatred is to have pedophile non-jokes. Where he doesn't say funny stuff about it, he just goes "I have a problem, and it's terrible." and then VB would become a sad after-school special instead of a tragic comedy.
- by GilbertSmith
- (unregistered id: 480A18BFE2)
If you don't want your opinions challenged, don't express them in public. Open discussion means that disagreements happen, and if you can't detect the depth there is to one of the major characters of this season, then the literal definition of what is happening is that it's "going over your head".
- by no.22
- (unregistered id: 0C42357BFC)
If Hatred isn't your bag, thats fine, thats your opinion (and unfortunately one thats likely made it hard for you to enjoy this season so far).
I do, however, think you to be in error to criticize a lack of characterization as being the problem. We might actually have a little more insight into the personal life of Hatred than we've ever had for another popular second tier-character like White. Sure, everyone's favorite albino has been developed pretty evenly over three seasons, and we've come to know Hatred over a much shorter span of time.
Jackson and Doc based their initial Hatred off some creepy, gruff guy they happened across in a net-cafe surfing porn in public. Since his introduction, we've seen his penchant for showmanship as an exciteable arch and had an episode primarily set IN HIS HOUSE. Emotional instability, his sordid love life, unemployment and a tendancy towards the dramatic have all fleshed out the midlife crisis we've all winessed. Hes been shown as a compassionate, responsiblecaretaker for the boys, and serves as a very apt character foil to rusty. -Sorry you're not a fan, but you're misappropriated the problem to say its lack of development.
*I love the scene in the bathroom, as Hatred is frantically searching his pockets for more medicine, we see that he's acually been keeping one of Dean's Shrinky-Dinks. While I'm sure Dean would be just as likely to make one for Brock, only Hatred would carry it around with him :)
I do, however, think you to be in error to criticize a lack of characterization as being the problem. We might actually have a little more insight into the personal life of Hatred than we've ever had for another popular second tier-character like White. Sure, everyone's favorite albino has been developed pretty evenly over three seasons, and we've come to know Hatred over a much shorter span of time.
Jackson and Doc based their initial Hatred off some creepy, gruff guy they happened across in a net-cafe surfing porn in public. Since his introduction, we've seen his penchant for showmanship as an exciteable arch and had an episode primarily set IN HIS HOUSE. Emotional instability, his sordid love life, unemployment and a tendancy towards the dramatic have all fleshed out the midlife crisis we've all winessed. Hes been shown as a compassionate, responsiblecaretaker for the boys, and serves as a very apt character foil to rusty. -Sorry you're not a fan, but you're misappropriated the problem to say its lack of development.
*I love the scene in the bathroom, as Hatred is frantically searching his pockets for more medicine, we see that he's acually been keeping one of Dean's Shrinky-Dinks. While I'm sure Dean would be just as likely to make one for Brock, only Hatred would carry it around with him :)
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