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by (Another) Mike
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bah, these one-off characters are getting annoying. First Dermott, the the doctor, then quymn. Plus they never tied up underbheit and limbs stories.

Jul. 13, 2008, 3:47am

by N/A
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Dermott isn't a one-episode character, as he returns in Tears of a Sea cow next week. He's going to be showing up more, it seems.
It seems a little early to call Dr. Quymn a one-episode character, too.
And if "the doctor" you refer to is Dr. Z, he's a cameo just like Action Johnny.

Jul. 13, 2008, 5:25am

by sleepykidd
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What's to tie up w/ underbheit? He really seems to have been pushed out of the story next to all the other arches Venture has amassed. I'm sure we'll see limb again this season, but I hope that this season concludes on a venture/monarch/hatred episode.

Jul. 13, 2008, 5:39am

by amun-ra
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I want to find out what's happened to Baron Underbheit too. I get the feeling he might not show up this season.

Jul. 13, 2008, 7:27am

by Ron Bonham
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It's been confirmed that there will be no Baron this season in a JP blog, the closest you'll get is finding out in the 1st episode WTF caused him to have a metal jaw. I think from listening to the Season 2 commentary that JP and Doc find it boring to write for de Baron so he might not be coming back.

Jul. 13, 2008, 9:46am

by Richard
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I couldn't disagree more. Although the tide on internet forums seems to be against me, the first four episodes of this season worried me. A whole lot of my friends in various parts of the country have independently expressed similar concerns, so I don't think I'm alone. The story is moving much too slowly for such story-driven episodes, the flashback episodes are filling in gaps rather than moving interest forward, the series is becoming too winkingly self-referential, and there's just less funny. But the last three episodes have thrilled me.

Here's the problem: the Monarch story arc is pretty much concluded. They're trying to milk it for new plot threads, but there's just not much there yet. The Monarch plotline worked last season because it naturally progressed out of the VB's adventures from the previous season. Jackson Publick wrote somewhere that his one of his best strengths is taking throwaway references in one episode and building them into full-fledged characters and elements of the VB universe later on. They need a bunch of one-off episodes right now to allow them to expand the universe and develop new threads. A lot of the episodes that are mostly self-contained (Midnight, Mummies, Muertos) are some of the best, and they make the overarching-plot ones all the more special.

Jul. 14, 2008, 4:10am

by Charlie
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Well said, Rich. Couldn't agree more. My love for 21 & 24 grew out of their one-offs, and the 3Ms (Midnight, Mummies, and Muertos) did provide great 'self-containment' plots.

More of that; less of backstory. Less is often more.

Jul. 14, 2008, 6:58pm

by That Guy! From the Internet!
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Yeah, I agree, too. While I liked the first four episodes of the season, I was also a bit worried that the series was getting a bit too enamored of its own back-story.

I love the season 1&2 characters and I love to get more info on them. But I'm also aware of shows like Lost, where the creators spent so much time explaining the characters' history that it ended up meandering aimlessly. I think TVB has done pretty well balancing the two sides so far, and I certainly don't begrudge the stand-alone episodes.

Jul. 14, 2008, 7:48pm

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