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- by jon
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I can't help but feel we may have seen the last of the family Quymn, seeing as how Tara (a parody of Lara Croft, anyone?) certainly hates Rusty's guts as of late and Ginny doesn't seem to have EVER liked the Ventures.
Maybe somehow we'll end up seeing Nancy and Drew alone, but I bet Tara, unless she winds up being the Monarch's arch, is out of the picture.
Maybe somehow we'll end up seeing Nancy and Drew alone, but I bet Tara, unless she winds up being the Monarch's arch, is out of the picture.
- by Joe
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I have to say it. That bit with Dean and the twins was...creepy. I mean, those girls are almost certainly underage. Obviously it happens all the time in real life, but do we really need to see this stuff on The Venture Brothers? I probably sound like a prude (trust me, I'm most definitely not) but...ugh.
- by BlueInfinite
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- by Pirate Hippy
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Teenage sex? Big deal. I'm far more disturbed by Sargent Hatred's pedophilia - now that's creepy. I don't think The Venture Brothers is getting close to crossing the line, though.
I just realized on second viewing that the Quymn twins are trying to get Dean drunk, based on his reaction (spitting it out in surprise) to the "potion" they had him drink. Probably pure vodka. Those Quymn twins have done this sort of thing before.
I just realized on second viewing that the Quymn twins are trying to get Dean drunk, based on his reaction (spitting it out in surprise) to the "potion" they had him drink. Probably pure vodka. Those Quymn twins have done this sort of thing before.
- by Joe
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Who the hell said that what happened the twins and Dean was pedophilia??
Guys. Seriously. You're missing my point.
I get it. OK?:
Sergeant Hatred molested the boys.
This is called pedophilia.
It's a horrible thing.
None of it was onscreen.
Teenage sex is not pedophilia.
Teenage sex happens all the time.
Unlike Sergeant Hatred's thing, This WAS (started to be) shown onscreen in this episode.
In my opinion, and ONLY in my opinion, it's not something that needs to be SHOWN on The Venture Brothers. Why is it neccessary to show teenagers doing that stuff?
Guys. Seriously. You're missing my point.
I get it. OK?:
Sergeant Hatred molested the boys.
This is called pedophilia.
It's a horrible thing.
None of it was onscreen.
Teenage sex is not pedophilia.
Teenage sex happens all the time.
Unlike Sergeant Hatred's thing, This WAS (started to be) shown onscreen in this episode.
In my opinion, and ONLY in my opinion, it's not something that needs to be SHOWN on The Venture Brothers. Why is it neccessary to show teenagers doing that stuff?
- by Joe
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Yes, that's probably what it is. I happen to be 32 years old and depictions of underage sex aren't something I'd rather see. It's also something that you can't depict onscreen in a live-action show, at least not with underage actors, without being arrested for it.
I'm not really concerned about who actually sees it or when show's timeslot is.
That wasn't the point.
And because people can't seem to read, I'll spell it out for them: I don't the whole Sergeant Hatred thing either. I'm just glad that it's remained in the area of throwaway jokes and one-liners. Personally I wish it wasn't on the show at all, but I guess those things that boy adventurers in real world would be at risk for (not to mention dying a lot).
Just so there's no question about my objection being based on pious morals, let me just say that Jonas' key party looked pretty amateurish ;)
I'm not really concerned about who actually sees it or when show's timeslot is.
That wasn't the point.
And because people can't seem to read, I'll spell it out for them: I don't the whole Sergeant Hatred thing either. I'm just glad that it's remained in the area of throwaway jokes and one-liners. Personally I wish it wasn't on the show at all, but I guess those things that boy adventurers in real world would be at risk for (not to mention dying a lot).
Just so there's no question about my objection being based on pious morals, let me just say that Jonas' key party looked pretty amateurish ;)
- by Pirate Hippy
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Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The mere THOUGHT (without being shown) of Sgt. Hatred's oft referenced pedophilia is a heck of a lot creepier than any of the teenage sex or almost-sex shown in this episode.
This is a show for adults - it's a parody of kids shows, it isn't itself a show for kids. And a lot of things are much creepier if you don't actually see it than if you do.
I stand by my point: Sgt. Hatred's pedophilia (and unseen molestation) is a lot creepier than actually seeing the Quymn twins trying to seduce Dean. A LOT CREEPIER.
It is entirely beside the point that Sgt. Hatred's pedophilia isn't explicitly shown. I can't believe I have to even point this out to anyone.
This is a show for adults - it's a parody of kids shows, it isn't itself a show for kids. And a lot of things are much creepier if you don't actually see it than if you do.
I stand by my point: Sgt. Hatred's pedophilia (and unseen molestation) is a lot creepier than actually seeing the Quymn twins trying to seduce Dean. A LOT CREEPIER.
It is entirely beside the point that Sgt. Hatred's pedophilia isn't explicitly shown. I can't believe I have to even point this out to anyone.
- by Pirate Hippy
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"Who the hell said that what happened the twins and Dean was pedophilia?? "
I certainly never said any such thing: my whole point was that it IS NOT pedophilia, which is why it ain't creepy. Apparently you have a problem with teenagers being shown almost having sex; I have no idea why. It may not be "moral" but it sure as heck ain't creepy.
Implied, unseen molestation and pedophilia on the part of Sgt. Hatred IS creepy. We don't have to be actually shown Sgt. Hatred molesting kids in order to think it is creepy.
I certainly never said any such thing: my whole point was that it IS NOT pedophilia, which is why it ain't creepy. Apparently you have a problem with teenagers being shown almost having sex; I have no idea why. It may not be "moral" but it sure as heck ain't creepy.
Implied, unseen molestation and pedophilia on the part of Sgt. Hatred IS creepy. We don't have to be actually shown Sgt. Hatred molesting kids in order to think it is creepy.
- by Pirate Hippy
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Considering the types of shows that get aired on Adult Swim alongside The Venture Brothers, I think it is hysterically funny we have people here upset at a couple of teenage girls trying to seduce a teenage boy on a cartoon show. Does anyone forget what else is on Adult Swim late at night???
- by Experimental
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I have to agree.
And am I the only one who finds Sgt Hatred's love of young boys downright hilarious and ironic? Creepy, sure, but it's part of his characterization, and both instances are pretty low on the scale of offensiveness as far as this show is concerned. In any case, this IS fiction, and a cartoon at that (and a pretty tame one compared to its brethren). . . .
And am I the only one who finds Sgt Hatred's love of young boys downright hilarious and ironic? Creepy, sure, but it's part of his characterization, and both instances are pretty low on the scale of offensiveness as far as this show is concerned. In any case, this IS fiction, and a cartoon at that (and a pretty tame one compared to its brethren). . . .
- by Roborob
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Well, gran mal seizures are pretty unpleasant to begin with. Then imagine some twerp showing up and "cleasning" you with a folding chair. Then remember spotty bits of dialogue from your would-be paramour showing disgust at your condition. Finally, think about all that wonderful work you were going to do with the seeds in the forest around your camp and realize these dinks just burned the forest down! I would probably be a little pissed off at them too under those circumstances. :)
- by Emery Calame
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I kind of got the feeling that she only went to him so suddenly because of the fight with Ginny. She was thinking of "getting to know him gradually" as a lab assistant probably naively fantastzing about saving him by giving his life a noble direction (she is a bleeding heart type). After a fight with Ginny, who appears to be pretty nearly her only authority/protective figure and clearly the one REALLY taking care of the twins she heads off to Rusty for some Spiteful revenge sex.
What follows, including Thadeus' rejection of her ooky epilepsy when he's a pitiful ball of barely human crap just shows her how stupid she was being and how right Ginny turned out to be and how trapped she is in her screwed up scinece adventurer life.
She's a pretty pathetic character despite being athletic, good looking, and wanting to help people. I'm curious if she's a good doctor or a kook who THINKS she's found a cancer cure based on rainforest mystique and legend alone.
What follows, including Thadeus' rejection of her ooky epilepsy when he's a pitiful ball of barely human crap just shows her how stupid she was being and how right Ginny turned out to be and how trapped she is in her screwed up scinece adventurer life.
She's a pretty pathetic character despite being athletic, good looking, and wanting to help people. I'm curious if she's a good doctor or a kook who THINKS she's found a cancer cure based on rainforest mystique and legend alone.
- by RoboRob
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Good points. Another thing about Tara that creeped me out was that she decided to go "Invite Rusty to her Jungle Fort" only after having that flashback during the party. What does that say about her?
This was a good story and has interesting potential, but the real takeaway I have from it is Jonas Venture was a serious asshole and so were his friends.
This was a good story and has interesting potential, but the real takeaway I have from it is Jonas Venture was a serious asshole and so were his friends.
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