Comment Thread
- by WorstServedCold
- (unregistered id: 9C9A58C61F)
The little title on google for this website needs to get re-updated. I google Venture Brothers and it's all "WEBSITE DOWN?" but it's not.
Anyway, I'm going to come in late and agree with everyone else that this episode was just friggen astonishing. Time for some bullet point thoughts:
-Killinger was such a great character, but so surreal that when he pulled an umbrella out of his magic murder bag and flew away with it, it didn't strike me as strange at the time. It seemed in-character, somehow, but looking back I have no idea why.
-The Brock thing was totally badass, but if I had been running the show, I'd have kept that music in the car playing the entire way through, instead of action music when he was zenning.
-Finally, someone agrees with me. It had to be a cartoon robot, but at least someone else doesn't like The Zep.
-I am with the group who believe that the crazy chick really is the mother. It all fits pretty darn well.
-The Venture Brothers themselves had some really good lines playing off each other, I like how they are developing as characters.
-I was thinking before that Orpheus's cat needed some more screen time. I think Orpheus is probably the nicest person in the show.
-Also, Rusty doing an Orpheus impersonation was awesome, and thinking back, The Monarch doing a Dr. Girlfriend impersonation was equally awesome. Gotta be hard as hell to do a voice doing a voice, but what a payoff.
-I didn't recognize the combination of those two famous latin phrases, though I had heard them seperatley. That totally makes me giggle now. As an aside, I'm also totally behind on my famous Russians, I didn't understand the horse thing, but at least I was able to google it to find out. And, like all Venture Brothers humor, both of these jokes were still funny as hell even when I didn't actually "get" them.
I'm out of random thoughts for the time being, so I think I'll just watch this again with a big stupid grin on my face. Sep. 25, 2006, 3:07pm
Anyway, I'm going to come in late and agree with everyone else that this episode was just friggen astonishing. Time for some bullet point thoughts:
-Killinger was such a great character, but so surreal that when he pulled an umbrella out of his magic murder bag and flew away with it, it didn't strike me as strange at the time. It seemed in-character, somehow, but looking back I have no idea why.
-The Brock thing was totally badass, but if I had been running the show, I'd have kept that music in the car playing the entire way through, instead of action music when he was zenning.
-Finally, someone agrees with me. It had to be a cartoon robot, but at least someone else doesn't like The Zep.
-I am with the group who believe that the crazy chick really is the mother. It all fits pretty darn well.
-The Venture Brothers themselves had some really good lines playing off each other, I like how they are developing as characters.
-I was thinking before that Orpheus's cat needed some more screen time. I think Orpheus is probably the nicest person in the show.
-Also, Rusty doing an Orpheus impersonation was awesome, and thinking back, The Monarch doing a Dr. Girlfriend impersonation was equally awesome. Gotta be hard as hell to do a voice doing a voice, but what a payoff.
-I didn't recognize the combination of those two famous latin phrases, though I had heard them seperatley. That totally makes me giggle now. As an aside, I'm also totally behind on my famous Russians, I didn't understand the horse thing, but at least I was able to google it to find out. And, like all Venture Brothers humor, both of these jokes were still funny as hell even when I didn't actually "get" them.
I'm out of random thoughts for the time being, so I think I'll just watch this again with a big stupid grin on my face. Sep. 25, 2006, 3:07pm
- by Doctor SnOZ Bowl the unloader
- (unregistered id: 8E1070C02B)
As usual, you provide some very interesting insight...I always enjoy reading your posts...even if you don't like Zep...
I would have to agree that the umbrella thing from Killinger didn't seem out of character, but it was still random...is he based off of a pop icon I don't know about...I feel as if I had seen a similar character before... Sep. 26, 2006, 5:48pm
I would have to agree that the umbrella thing from Killinger didn't seem out of character, but it was still random...is he based off of a pop icon I don't know about...I feel as if I had seen a similar character before... Sep. 26, 2006, 5:48pm
- by josh
- (unregistered id: 0CD2659FBE)
- by Doctor SnOZfoot the Ora-jel
- (unregistered id: 8E1070C02B)
yea...I finally looked it up on google and got this wikipedeia site...Killinger's character makes a whole lot more sense...and funnier too!
Heres the site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger Sep. 27, 2006, 4:17pm
Heres the site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger Sep. 27, 2006, 4:17pm
- by Mr. Noy
- (unregistered id: 0542CA5E73)
He is absolutely based on Henry Kissinger, the voice alone confirms that. He's also a reference to Mary Poppins, the English nanny who carries a magical carpetbag that is seemingly bottomless. She would enter the employ of a dysfunctional family and once she brought them together she would fly off by holding on to her magic umbrella. The Mary Poppins books were later adapted into a Disney movie. Mary Poppins is also the inspiration for such shows as Nanny 911, which of course was referenced earlier in Assassinanny 911.
I'm surprised so many people didn't catch that. I guess I'm getting old because I just assumed everyone would remember those old Disney movies from their childhood. Sep. 27, 2006, 6:05pm
I'm surprised so many people didn't catch that. I guess I'm getting old because I just assumed everyone would remember those old Disney movies from their childhood. Sep. 27, 2006, 6:05pm
- by josh
- (unregistered id: 189792C1CF)
I didn't mention Mary Poppins because i made the mistake of assuming everyone caught that and didn't want to insult others intelligence. Kissinger is also more of a niche character if you will so it is easier not to pick up on that.
"Do you understand what he's saying?"
"About 50/50." Sep. 27, 2006, 10:12pm
"Do you understand what he's saying?"
"About 50/50." Sep. 27, 2006, 10:12pm
- by Mr. Noy
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It's interesting you should bring that up. I too assumed everyone would get it but since the question was still out there I figured I'd jump in. I sincerely hope I don't come across as insulting and if I do, I apologize. I actually think most VB fans are pretty savvy when it comes to pop culture.
I used to wonder why other shows on Adult Swim typically scored higher ratings than Venture Bros. until it struck me that Adult Swim, like most other channels, is typically aiming at the 18-24 demographic. VB, on the other hand, relies heavily on pop culture references that skew towards an older audience, namely people who were kids in the 70's and 80's (people such as Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer).
I think for most people in my age group (30-40) there would be no mistaking the Mary Poppins references, and Kissinger wouldn't be seen as a niche character, but a political figure as recognizable as a Condoleeza Rice or a Dick Cheney today. I should also note that when I was a kid, shows like Jonny Quest, Mary Poppins, Herculoids, even real life figures such as Kissinger were already old news so it's hardly surprising if they are less recognizable today.
The fact that so many 20 somethings (and younger) watch this show and get the jokes speaks highly of VB's fanbase. And if there's ever something you don't quite understand one of us geezers will be happy to inform you, just remember to ask loudly 'cuz our hearing isn't what it used to be. Sep. 27, 2006, 11:18pm
I used to wonder why other shows on Adult Swim typically scored higher ratings than Venture Bros. until it struck me that Adult Swim, like most other channels, is typically aiming at the 18-24 demographic. VB, on the other hand, relies heavily on pop culture references that skew towards an older audience, namely people who were kids in the 70's and 80's (people such as Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer).
I think for most people in my age group (30-40) there would be no mistaking the Mary Poppins references, and Kissinger wouldn't be seen as a niche character, but a political figure as recognizable as a Condoleeza Rice or a Dick Cheney today. I should also note that when I was a kid, shows like Jonny Quest, Mary Poppins, Herculoids, even real life figures such as Kissinger were already old news so it's hardly surprising if they are less recognizable today.
The fact that so many 20 somethings (and younger) watch this show and get the jokes speaks highly of VB's fanbase. And if there's ever something you don't quite understand one of us geezers will be happy to inform you, just remember to ask loudly 'cuz our hearing isn't what it used to be. Sep. 27, 2006, 11:18pm
- by Steve W
- (unregistered id: D87584C4FE)
I think another reason why The Venture Brothers gets quite a few viewers in the 18 to 30 year old bracket is because it's so intelligent. There aren't a whole lot of really smart shows out there, and a show that doesn't condescend to it's audience will pick up a wide range of viewers, especially intelligent viewers. One thing that I've noticed when reading the comments left on this site, nobody types in what I call 'internet retard' style, as in using "u" instead of spelling out "you", that kind of thing. Venture Brothers viewers are some of the brightest people out there, judging by the people that post at this site. I think that a lot of the show's younger viewers will still get some of the obscure references because they're more learned than, say, someone who watches "Jackass The Movie".
Sep. 28, 2006, 9:45pm
- by Gumby
- (unregistered id: 10A4E67E12)
Well spoken Steve, my thoughts exactly.
In this day of banal reality shows and inane sitcoms that appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society, its hard to find entertainment that does not insult ones intelligence, I'm not trying to be haughty in this observation I'm merely saying that most of the programing out there is dull and lackluster.
I too believe Venture Bros fans are more "on the ball" then the average viewer, no matter their age bracket.
And Mr Noy, thank you for letting this old fart know I'm not the only codger here.
I saw Johnny Quest premier on ch 7 (when I was a kid Jonny Quest, Mary Poppins, Herculoids, and Henry Kissinger were "Current Events", yes I'm older then dirt) and I was glued to the set; I feel the same kind of thrill and anticipation waiting for and watching each and every new episode of Venture Bros, albeit for different reasons. Sep. 29, 2006, 12:34am
In this day of banal reality shows and inane sitcoms that appeal to the lowest common denominator in our society, its hard to find entertainment that does not insult ones intelligence, I'm not trying to be haughty in this observation I'm merely saying that most of the programing out there is dull and lackluster.
I too believe Venture Bros fans are more "on the ball" then the average viewer, no matter their age bracket.
And Mr Noy, thank you for letting this old fart know I'm not the only codger here.
I saw Johnny Quest premier on ch 7 (when I was a kid Jonny Quest, Mary Poppins, Herculoids, and Henry Kissinger were "Current Events", yes I'm older then dirt) and I was glued to the set; I feel the same kind of thrill and anticipation waiting for and watching each and every new episode of Venture Bros, albeit for different reasons. Sep. 29, 2006, 12:34am
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