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"The Unicorn In Captivity" Discussion

Welcome back, friends! This is your weekly discussion thread for this week's episode of Venture Bros., which is called "The Unicorn In Captivity". You can stream the episode over on Adult Swim.com right now or watch it Sunday night at the usual time and place, if you prefer. Either way, use the comments to talk about the episode, season or series. For the uninitiated, there will be spoilers in the comments, so you know the drill. Have an awesome weekend!

  • by Captain V
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Best episode... ever! Holy f'n shit!!!
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Addendum:

It was the best Eyes Wide Shut and Ocean's parody I've ever seen.

The only one... I've ever seen. Jackson transcended his art in this episode.

It broke my brain. It was so, so well written, acted and animated!

Wow!
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8 days ago
I'd say there were influences from Caligula (architecture as well as the sex) and Nightbreed (that moon mask) as well.
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8 days ago
Mark Hammill was great in both roles he voiced...and that post credits scene!
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8 days ago
I listened thinking, "wait . . . is that . . . no way!"

Awesome! Great guests this season!
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9 hours ago
Half way through; WTF IS GOING ON HERE!!! So much "disclosure"...
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8 days ago
I'm gonna sit here and listen to Sprit of Eden by Talk Talk all night to counter part 2 of this one. C-hair close to losing me a fan with this one. Tim and Eric think it's outta bounds...
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6 days ago
You are the Weakest Link.

Buy-bye.
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9 hours ago
  • by Knee pad
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Was the VR fake out a reference to mark hamill in last Jedi? Maybe not, but it’s the first thought I had
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8 days ago
I love Mark Hamill so much ;__; what a wild episode!!
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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There was in fact a little snow in this episode at least once.

Pirate Captain teleported into history. Although, Rusty dimension jumped through Fat Chance previously. But it is ultimately different.

RIP Tiny Eagle? Maybe he was just very, very badly injured and didn't bleed to death?

This episode was in fact, a game-changer and a bit of a unicorn, in that it was soo good.
But VB is always good. Probably the most consistent show ever.

Dot Com got a new voice actor. Seems SNL stars get busy w/ films and ditch the show. Hader also eventually ducked out. Anyway, the new VO did a great job.

I wonder how much Rusty experienced was actually in VR?
Brock blindfolded him, so... it's implied the whole orgy was a VR dream.

Good to see Manolo again.

Two films are the basis for the A and B plots. The heist is an Ocean's parody / while the Orgy is an 'Eyes Wide Shut' parody.

Red Moco Cooler returns.

The Illuminati members include many recognizable silhouettes. The Mexican doctor from "Dia" is the most interesting one to me. Brizzby (spelling?) is the most obvious. He even wears a bee mask.

This episode in particular is hilarious and felt somewhat like a season finale.

21 is almost always more capable and competent vs. The Monarch.

The Monarch is accidentally indestructible, just like his bro Rusty, and always survives disastrous falls.

Orgy Dr. Mrs. is surprisingly hot!

Copycat has his logo on his helicopter, not great for a heist. Even if you frame bozos.

Mark Hamil was really great as Presto. And Presto was damn funny.
Brock stuck on stairmaster Presto was hilarious!

RIP most of the crew from the heist. But... Copycat and Presto may have lived...
we'll see. Presto may get brain damage and live. Maybe he'll be extra psychotic and more Joker esque perhaps?

If an episode has teleportation... you must make an 'The Fly' joke.

Both Rusty and Malcom are unicorns. Ventunicorns.

The Driver X (non-existent) character is a Speed Racer parody.

Dummy Corp is an OSI dummy corporation that "makes mannequins" as the cover. I just got that.

Presto never changes into a Man Truck during the heist.

While obviously not intentional; Presto is very Meatwad like and the portals are very similar to Rick's portal gun.

I think next weeks episode is the black widower/gold digger storyline.
So maybe Venture realizes he didn't actually get laid.

(Part 1 of 2)
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8 days ago
Love the Speed Racer "Racer X" reference, but I thought initially "The Stig" from the TV show Top Gear. Anyone else?
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8 days ago
  • by Aaaanon
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I first thought of the Stig, too, but the racing uniform needed to be white. Oh, and we DO see who's inside the helmet.
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6 days ago
  • by zombiejesus
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I think Driver X was also The Stig from Top Gear:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stig

Glad to see the lesser villains get some extended play. And good to get the clever throwaway names they give to them. I want to know the name of the guy with the stovepipe hat and the radiation symbol:
http://venturebrothers.wikia.com/wiki/Unnamed_Magician_Villain_With_Hazmat_Hat

I was anticipating some Larry Niven stuff on the teleportation. Or maybe Tron. Or a quick Portal gag of someone falling infinitely.
https://www.scribd.com/document/106876485/Niven-Larry-Theory-and-Prctice-of-Teleportation-The

And, hey, didn't Rusty have his dad's old prototype teleporter? Or did JJ build that first one, from S02E01? Did he actually make a teleporter himself, or did he just reuse his predecessor's achievements?

I am curious of when the vr session started. I hope we never know.

R.I.P Ramburglar.
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8 days ago
  • by Homeless Blixa Barfgold & his dirty pillow posse
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Not sure if anyone will get some Niven teleportation, pretty obscure ref there!

I am so proud of this episode going (Publick with &) deeper into the whole gestalt of the VB world. We are seeing behind the curtain & it's a mugs game folks..
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8 days ago
  • by zombiejesus
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Also, I think one of the Illuminati was L. Ron.
"We Can Thank Them"?
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8 days ago
Among the silhouette heads, I think I spotted Gen. Manhowers (the hat), and the Mexican University dean from S1 E1, and possibly Dr. Quentin Ball as seen in the G.C. I. Facebook that The Monarch was perusing in from Home Is Where The Hate Is.
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8 days ago
Dr. Q Ball is a double agent; he was seen getting one of those Uber-large checks from Dr. V last season & seen @ Don Hells. Double Agent.
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8 days ago
I think it might be "You can thank us"
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6 days ago
  • by zombiejesus
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"Dummy Corp is an OSI dummy corporation that "makes mannequins" as the cover. I just got that."

Riddler, 1960s:
"When is a man a stupid relative? When he's a mannequin."
A man, akin.
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8 days ago
  • by zip
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Presto is likely a reference to "The Impossible Man" of Marvel.
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6 days ago
Plastic man, the Elongating Man, Mr. Fantastic, Elastigirl Mr. Impossible ....
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5 days ago
The color scheme and wacky attitude point to The Impossible Man. I chuckled at Brock’s solution for dealing with him.
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5 days ago
  • by Aaaanon
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-- Dunno if I'd use the word 'surprisingly' when noting Dr. the Mrs.'s hotness.
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6 days ago
So that's four episodes in a row with four "fantasy" sequences. I smell theme.
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8 days ago
JJ's special project for the Science Now conference was called O. S. Sparkledream. Just throwing that out there. We never did learn what that was.
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8 days ago
I think it was just a reference to Apple and Android naming their operating systems thing like "Ice Cream Sandwitch" and "Leopard"
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6 days ago
Please - God - Let - There - Be - An - Uncensored - Bluray - Edition!..... Sheila (shudders)

I'm a little confused as I never saw the movies you guys reference. So was EVERYTHING after Doc got shackled to the chair fake or just his personal experiences and the heist was still real?

I was guessing that Driver X was really Molotov infiltrating the team for the OSI. Oh well.
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8 days ago
Nah, that's too Hardcore. I for one don't wanna see that.
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8 days ago
Just Lady M. Yeah, the rest is too much but I'm willing to FF over it for that frontal view.
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I demand totally uncensored genitals in all of my favorite cartoons!

But seriously, Sheila looked shockingly sexy in this one, especially for a cartoon character.

I surmise Doc Hammer can't wait for the Orgy Sheila cosplay!
I know I certainly can't.
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8 days ago
I do not want to see Peter Griffin's uncensored genitalia.
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5 days ago
Everything Doc experiences after he gets in the chair is VR. The heist is all really happening.
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7 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I assume everyone gets that....
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7 days ago
  • by bigmeanbastardmachine
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I don't have cable, and decided to buy the season on Amazon, rather than trying to fool around with other ways of seeing it. From that, I can confirm a very uncensored version exists.
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5 days ago
I felt like this episode was too overboard even for the Venture Bros. It was more often repulsive than funny. And them it ends up being a dream sequence, a cop-out on the part of authors that I really hate. As a result I would rate this episode as the worst in several seasons. Slimey and disgusting.
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8 days ago
It was like that terrible scene in What Goes Up, feeling wise but like for the whole episode. It was over the top for sure. And you can guess what the tee will be, uh no thanks...
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8 days ago
And going by the upcoming schedule it looks like it will get 1 airing. I would go so far as to say it will be the only viewing, ever.
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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The schedule listings on Mantis Eye are a bit messed up currently.
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8 days ago
  • by zombiejesus
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What in the what?!?
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I like hearing the alternative opinions. I wasn't a huge fan of last weeks episode, but for very different reasons. Just know there are still three more eps. coming soon.

But this one, this one I love tremendously.

Anyway, Monarch and 21 making off with the teleporters will likely be very important.
We can assume Monarch may use them as bargaining chips to get his level bumped up very high, or perhaps he'll use them for something even more sinister and clever.

I assume the heist stuff played well with everyone.

And surely everyone can agree Mark Hamil did great with his roles.
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8 days ago
  • by Captain V
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What in the... Sweet Zombie Jesus is going on!
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8 days ago
The Unicorn in Captivity is an actual tapestry (thanks Art History class) and you can buy yourself a repro to grace the wall of your humble castle or one bedroom apartment (orgy not included). Just do a Google image search.
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8 days ago
Also (from what I can remember) one interpretation of the The Hunt of the Unicorn/The Unicorn in Captivity is that the Unicorn represents Christ (I think the horn is considered magic and can purify or cure) with the hunters representing those who would try to weaken Christ and render him powerless, but who also may want to have or control the Unicorn's power for their own purposes. (I think its unclear whether the two tapestries are definitely connected as part of a series.)

But I thought it was an apt metaphor for both Doc and the Monarch having something special about them which sets them apart and gives them power only to be corralled by both the OSI and the GoCI. In fact I'm beginning to think that maybe that was the point of the GoCI in the first place, not to be "evil" but rather to take powerful antagonistic people and make sure they DON'T cause too much trouble in society by reigning them in with rules and regulations.
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7 days ago
" who also may want to have or control the Unicorn's power for their own purposes" - aka the Catholic church.

"not to be "evil" but rather to take powerful antagonistic people and make sure they DON'T cause too much trouble in society by reigning them in with rules and regulations." - Precisely! Some of the "bad" guys even do charity work. Recall Phantom Limb's "What do you know of evil?" speech to a young Sheila in the Shadowman 9 episode.
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7 days ago
This is pretty much the theme of the last three episodes, that the Guild and OSI, while antagonists, work to restrain the damage that super-scientists (evil or otherwise) can do. They have regulated rules of engagement, strictly control who can attack who, and what weapons they can use, and make concerted effort to keep "game changing" technology away from the public. How they missed the cellphone I don't know).
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6 days ago
This just further enforces my belief that the original Guild as seen in Orb split into the OSI and GCI. The original Guild's logo even has both the OSI sword and the GCI dragon in it. Remember both Eugene Sandow's and Brock's orders to kill their assigned charges if either tried to use the orb. Even had it been not a weapon but a source of unlimited energy THAT would have been a 'game changer'.
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5 days ago
  • by notgoofingaround
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Do you guy's think Malcolm and Rusty are older version of clones made by Jonas?
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8 days ago
  • by notgoofingaround
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Rusty is always taking over his dad's projects and slapping his name on them....
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8 days ago
In the scene with Venturion chocking Rusty, for me Rusty looks like he's not in his teens but according to the VB time line he should be, so long answer, yes...
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8 days ago
I think Jonas's cloning system is definitely at play with at least Rusty and possibly Malcolm. In what way and to what extent is still a big question mark. The fact that the learning beds are required to update memories of the boys into the clones (using the ancient computers seen in Powerless in the Face of Death), the learning bed was used by Rusty his entire childhood, Rusty is mentioned as a clone by H.E.L.P.eR. 2.0, etc. makes it 100% confirmed concerning Rusty. But, like the boys, I believe Rusty to be a clone of himself (with some genetic engineering thrown in), not of Jonas or someone else.
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7 days ago
I just realized something watching Arrears in Science again which may have already been covered but....when Venturion sees Rusty and Malcolm at play in 1977 and starts choking Rusty, he flashes BACK to the plane crash which orphaned Malcolm/The Monarch in 1976. Which means the Malcolm playing with Rusty is definitely a clone and would explain why the Monarch has no recollection of ever playing with Rusty when he sees the photograph.
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7 days ago
Actually I just double checked the Monarch's photograph and while they are wearing the same clothes in 1977 as in the photo, the photo has what I am assuming are the Monarch's parents laughing with Jonas so it must be from the previous year. The fact the Monarch doesn't remember it is still suspicious though.
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7 days ago
I think the only unanswered question is whether Rusty and Monarch are both clones of Jonas or whether the Monarch is the natural son of Jonas and Rusty is a clone of the Monarch.

I favor the former. Jonas, we gather has had sex with lots of woman, You would expect in that situation that he would have had lot of illegitimate children. Lots of super-geniuses. Unless the enture Guild is Jonas's extended family it looks like Jonas was shooting blanks. So the only way Jonas could guarantee Blue Morpho a child is if he cloned himself. And remember Ben examined Dean for two features, a tendency for one fetus to eat another fetus, and weird hair growth around the eyes. This last indicates that Ben and hence Jonas, know about these side effects from experience. And that indicates that Rusty and Monarch were both clones.
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6 days ago
  • by The Blue Morpho
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It’s implied that Tara Quymn is Jonas’s illegitimate daughter.
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5 days ago
  • by Captain V
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It's definitely implied that Rusty almost fucked his own half-sister.

Plus, they look so much alike it seems obvious. But we don't really know for sure.

Jonas was all about being a biological father to other peoples kids.

Isn't that right.... Blue Morpho?!?!?!?? Dun Dun Duuunnnnn!!! If it really is you!
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5 days ago
  • by EJ
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I think the Monarch is Jonas' natural son and Doc is a clone of Jonas. Assume that Jonas went through a few Rusty clones (which would make sense of the timeline that gets jacked up as the show gets more compressed but they still incorporate real world events). In every other iteration, the JJ fetus consumed Doc and was born as a Jonas clone. But something went wrong once, and they got a dud Rusty. That's why Doc doesn't look much like Jonas - the genetic material that became him was just there for the good clone to feed off of.
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2 days ago
  • by Destroyo
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The Monarch's tactics were on point. His immediate rant to hit Ventech high and hard was Copy Cat's actual plan, complete with CopyCoptor. Bet next episode sees him and 21 pursued by both Guild and OSI goons in the subway, like in John Wick 2.
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7 days ago
All these movie references are starting to sour me on Doc and Jackson. It makes it feel like they can't write anything that isn't swiped from a movie.
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6 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I'm pretty sure the constant film parodies are purposefully an integral part of the main underlined themes of the new season.
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6 days ago
  • by Juggly
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Actually, this is something that has been baked into the show since season 1. They have always intentionally lifted camera angles, scene set ups, dialogue, themes, and characters from movies, whether it is obvious or not. It’s more pronounced in this season but this is nothing new
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6 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Well, yeah.

It's a reference heavy show.
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6 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Actually, every single character in the show is a parody of another character.

Brock = Doc Savage. Venture = Quest. Orpheus = Doctor Strange.

And almost everything is a reference to something else since the pilot fifteen years ago.

It's not a revelation (Juggly) or something to complain about (Beb)... it's literally what V Bros. is and has been... forever.

I just meant the plotlines are especially all movie based this particular season perhaps a bit more than normal.

Or maybe the movie references are more obvious to everyone this season.
The show is in season seven after fifteen years and slowly approaching 100 episodes.

Maybe people are just moving on.

The lack of advertisement and ratings seems to suggest [AS] has lost some interest too.

Regardless... I'll keep watching.
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6 days ago
Brock is not Doc Savage. Jonas Venture is the Doc Savage look-alike.
Brock is the look-alike of Quest bodyguard Race Bannon.
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5 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Right.

But then why would Jackson and Doc say he's also based on Doc Savage in a commentary track?

Obviously, his is based on Race Bannon too.

Characters in this show are amalgamations of many, many things.
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5 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Jonas and Brock are each influenced by Doc Savage, to end the discussion. I forgot to mention that.

DS looks like Jonas and ORB here -http://adventuresinbronze.com/product/doc-savage-flight-into-fear-softcover/

DS looks more like Brock here -
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/DocSavage

Again, I'm pretty sure Doc and Jackson mix influences together like paint on a canvas. Shades of many characters may be influenced and informed by numerous things.
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5 days ago
  • by Homeless Blixa Barfgold & his dirty pillow posse
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Hey Sgt Sloppy! Your flying jeep jalopy aint shoddy!

https://jalopnik.com/yes-the-u-s-army-actually-developed-a-flying-jeep-wit-1829029636
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6 days ago
A question that's been bugging me since the Morpho Trilogy. When did we first learn that Jonas died on Gargantua 1 and during "Movie Night." All I remember is that in the episode where Rusty mets Brock in college we'er just told that his father had died. And later I recall they dug up Jonas' coffin and found it empty. But the Morpho TRilogy made it sound like everyone knew Jonas died in space. Did "everybody" know this before the start of this season? I can't tell if I'm being gaslighted or just have a bad memory.
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6 days ago
  • by Captain V
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The shirt is basically the Illuminati flag.

https://www.titmousestuff.com/products/week-7-illumina-tee
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6 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Hilarious! (com/products/week-7-illumina-tee) (^o^) [illumina-tee]
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6 days ago
thank goodness...I was a wee bit terrified on what it could have been
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6 days ago
  • by Aaaanon
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If they'd have included some of the orgy scene element, they'd have a naught-tee shirt.
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6 days ago
The title/motto/slogan/whatever on the shirt roughly translate to (using an online translator, I don't know any Latin):

The Order of World Power

We Thank You
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3 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Final Notes:

The number 4 repeating can foreshadow death. And Copycat's apartment number... 44-44. In Japanese culture the number four sounds similar to death, allegedly where this all originates from. Or just new age internet culture in general.
Anyway, Copycat and everyone on the team besides Monarch and Dot Com appears to die, (at least gravely injured) and the heist was in fact planned in apartment 44-44.

The Illuminati silhouettes and voices are all just taken from Doc's subconscious mind. Likely, the second Brock and Hunter leave the advanced VR simulation begins.

According to the simulation Doctor Venture's most desired woman appears to be Dr. Mrs. the Monarch.

Gary is a nerd and has on a 20 sided die (dodecahedron) t-shirt.
Gary Fischer = Gary Gaygax, the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons.

The Monarch lands on the very bed he was talking about earlier.

Apple experiment #6 is the one that actually worked.

Snow seems to only appear at The Monarch's in NJ and not anywhere in NYC in this episode. Although, a big chunk of the episode was a simulation.. so I'll let it pass.
But man, they are really building up to the big snowstorm episode. You can tell.
May even be the season finale.

The main trailer and especially the SDCC exclusive trailer apparently contained scenes from the final three episodes, as we haven't seen bloody penthouse Brock yet or Scare Bear, on and on like that.

Copcat's (Copy Cat's?) real plan is in fact entirely foreshadowed by the Monarch.

Hunter once again has a secret base on Venture compound, well, VenTech Tower technically.

Couldn't Hunter have just "washed" Rusty's brain clean with the "washing machine"?
I thought OSI had the too. I know Sphinx got blown up. I just meant wouldn't the OSI have one. Didn't Sphinx steal it from the OSI in the first place?

Are White and Billy liabilities? Since they clearly did most/some of the work on the teleporter?

The teleporter was probably something Jonas Jr. started and put away, and Rusty and crew picked it back up and finished it.

With only three episodes left... the teleporter pads could play a big role in the finale.
Particularly, with regards towards The Monarch getting everything he wants.

The upcoming "The Terminus Mandate" is about a black widower. Get it? Terminus Man Date.

This episode rocks and the heist stuff makes me laugh every single rewatch, especially towards the end when everything goes off and gets insane.

The Monarch survives astonishing accidents and both 21 survive a car crash relatively unscathed. Go Team Invincible Plot Armor!

I hope Mark Hamil returns in season 8. He's damn good and I'm not even a Star Wars fan.

The Monarch drops breaks his cool phone with the phone case I want in real life.

Ramburglar is the most brilliantly / most ridiculously named character this season.

The Monarch clearly dislikes him now, but it's great that he still thinks his apartment and style are cool. Good writing and characterization.

I love every episode where Pirate Captain appears, even if only briefly.

Since Brock keeps Tiny Eagle's carcass in his pocket... I'm guessing he's totally dead.

I want the Monarch's finished kitchen. Gorgeous! Maybe not in blue... but more or less.

The giant hand holding the world in front of Tophet Tower finally comes into play. This is of course a real world reference. What's interesting? The Hand literally delivers the Monarch the teleporter at the last second. Thus, granting him all the power in the world.
I.E. he's got the world by the balls now, errmmm, ball now.

Manolo appears briefly in the Monarch Cave / Basement but does not speak.

"Looking at me like a Johnny-stupid." - The Monarch
I've honestly never heard that one liner before.

Rated for broadcast TV-MA LS.

The eye patch strap on the back of Billy's head briefly disappears. He also wearing goggles. So, I see why it happened.

Boh Pirate Captain and Billy have similar eye patches. Counting Moltov and others.. this is a show full of eye patch people. It's just that kind of universe. Cigarette holders and eye patches.

This entire episode is Poetry in Motion.

Not only is "game-changer" said several times, so is the word unicorn.

Dot Com's real name is probably Dorothy or just Dot. Could be an accidental "The Tick" reference. Jackson wrote for every single iteration of "Tick" ever made. Even when it was a comicbook, he wrote some early issues. And Ben Edlund of course did help write a few early V Bros. episodes as well.

When the chair unlocks, Venture is still likely in the simulation, or they just put in back in, b/c the next shot he has a blindfold on. Meaning the VR simulation has definitely started.

I wonder who previously spray painted the big red X on the subway wall that Tunnel Vision drills into upon arrival? CC duplicate?

The Owl, often representing wisdom, an item associated with The Illuminati and other secret societies, appears in the episode. The fountain has an Owl atop it fr example.

Abort!! Abort!!! You're being set up!!! You're decoys!!!!

Dr. Venture laying down in his underwear, awaiting sex, is very similar to a poster from VB6.

Ramburglar's nickname is... Rambo... of course.

Sgt. Sloppy falls in the pool mid chase. Thus, he lived up to his new nickname.

Again, Driver X = Racer X.

Damn good traditional animation in this whole episode, but great CG animation too.

I love how 21 and The Monarch greet eachother nonchalantly after crashing.

Anyway, the most disturbing shot of the episode is the final beat. Dr. V hooked up to a sex machine... *shudders* two times.

And lastly; Night Dick finally returns next week.

(Part 2 of 2)
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6 days ago
  • by Aaaanon
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The Poetry in Motion reference??? The Thomas Dolby song?
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6 days ago
  • by Aaaanon
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Of course Dr. the Mrs. is Rusty's #1 fantasy... She's the longest female relationship he has going, such as it is.

I liked that upon hitting it big ($$-wise) Rusty's thoughts go to retiring to Spanakopita! (exclamation point required)
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6 days ago
Snow easily can happen in NJ and not NYC
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5 days ago
I did like the caper plot. The orgy thing was what set me off.
Drive X must have been one of Copy Cat's clones because just as Monarch warned that the team was a decoy Driver X's uniform collapsed, as if the body had been recovered.

Your comments about the number 4 in Japanese culture and Copy Cat's room number (44-44} was really interesting.

And speaking of Japanese anima / Manga -- there are a lot of one-eyed people in action-adventure stories. It's you can't be a bad ass without losing an eye.
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5 days ago
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So who are the real villains, the Guild or the OSI?
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6 days ago
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With Copycat's failure, is W Whale about out of subcontractors?
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6 days ago
The apples:

Experiment 1: red liquid - Dr Horrible style (smells like cumin)
Experiment 2: neatly cubed - makes me think of the digitizing laser from tron
Experiment 3: teratoma apple
Experiment 4: a neat cube - like one of those japanese molded watermellons
Experiment 5: "The Fly" apple
Experiment 6: Success? In my Venture Brothers? It's more likely than you think.
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6 days ago
The tiny eagle here is whole different thing from previous tiny eagle (as seen in Hate Floats, also with teleportation....). Original model TE had a different voice, was much smaller, and piloted a little eagle sized jet.

Hunter uses "Group Therapy" as euphemism for an orgy. I'm so stealing that.

Monarch's cape wings are for showing not for going. Gary/21 said his were "for showing, not for blowing" in Showdown at Cremation Creek part 2, only to find out he was wrong. "This changes everything!" says 24. Gamechanger!

Human sashimi would be a terrible idea even if you could ethically source the meat. The wikipedia article on cannibalism specifically flags prions (twice under #Medical_aspects, the brain diseases in the second paragraph are also prionogenic), but most pathogens could be transferred this way. Always cook your long pig thoroughly.

What is Gary's "Ph" bag and uniform a reference to?

I think the whole Eyes Wide Shut sequence feels a lot like Metalocalypse stuff (titmouse FTW). People eating, gratuitous and kinky sex, metal-ass costumes with a red tinged black color palate Tiger's knife strap-on has that show's groin-based-weaponry thing going on. Just ring your death bell!
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5 days ago
Gary's get up. Pharmacy chain called Duane Reade
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5 days ago
"Monarch's cape wings" - I think in the past few seasons the guys have made attempts to explain or at least acknowledge stuff in the show pointed out by fans, like when 21 complained about the doors in the cacoon all being tapered and they wear those wings, which fans had pointed out. That anaphylactic BM costume with the backstory was because of A) Don Fitzcaraldo was somewhat smaller in stature than he is as Vendata, and B) Gary made alterations to the original costumes, so Doc and JP knew we'd call them out if Vendata just slipped into the original BM costume. Also, I'm sure they knew some of us were wondering what was in that third pod.
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5 days ago
I agree with the Dean Martin reference for CopyCat and I enjoy that character.

However I always think of improv comedian Greg Proops when I see him on screen.
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5 days ago
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Better TV ratings this past weekend -

Cable TV Sunday 9/16 Top 25: #14. - V Bros. - 0.680 million viewers.

I hope the numbers get back up to 0.700 soon!

Even if cable is dead... TV ratings are still important to networks... until cable TV totally disappears. Which seems like it'll be pretty soon.
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4 days ago
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Sorry if somebody brought this up and I missed it, but was Copycat doublecrossing the Guild or just the decoy team? Is he with the Peril Partnership or was the plan to make a show of saving a botched operation and maybe scoring one of those open Council seats? I could see it working either way.

Heck, he's Copycat. He could have one body with the Guild and one with the Partnership and he'll just pick the side that comes out on top.
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2 days ago
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Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter, EJ.
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2 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Well, I'll be damned... this episode is completely uncensored on Amazon video.

You want nudity and f bombs uncensored? Here ya go.
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2 days ago
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Yeah, I've been pleased at the unfiltered language (and the HD, and the Sunday night access) of the Amazon Prime Video feeds of this. I was not actually expecting all of that pixelization would be removed. All of it.
Yowzah.
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2 days ago
  • by Captain V
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They've stepped up their game... with much more game!
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1 day ago
I'm willing to get past all the dicks (like actual, literal dicks) to get to Sheila. 'Bout damn time!
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6 hours ago
Informative
Discussion for this weekend's episode is up! http://mantiseye.com/news/2018/09/the_terminus_mandate_discussion
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1 day ago
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