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1 month ago
This is already really impressively big plot wise!
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1 month ago
Gr8 start! Cant wait for more!
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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It really was the best Star Wars movie ever made.
I'm impressed.
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1 month ago
They turned Brick Frog into a Spot knock-off...sort of. Love it. Also liked that a few Guild members were knocked off Dark Knight style.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Oh Noes!! JJ has a dying!!
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1 month ago
Looks like JJ might be turning evil & using Rusty as his scapegoat.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Okay Big question, where's Pete? Did something happen to him and Billy or did he just not get invited?
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1 month ago
Pete's not the only one, where's Shoreleave?!
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1 month ago
Shoreleave is in a background shot about the helicarrier.
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1 month ago
It looks like it was only people who the Revenge Society had a beef with.
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1 month ago
I thought Pete was still mixing an album?
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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*MAJOR SPOILERS*
Yeah... was that setup for something?
Because I thought some deal was going to happen between JJ and the investors.
Also what happens to the OSI now?
It looks like Brock is finally back with the Ventures too.

Three predictions I got right... Killenger was connected to the investors (being bros.), JJ got cancer, and it seems like Brock is back with the Venture's now fully.

Oh, oh, and I guessed that last season the Ventures compound would burn down... guess I got that right in the emd.

No evil Rusty or good Monarch or aliens... so some of my guesses were crap.

It actually raised as many questions as we got answers to.
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1 month ago
Brock's disguise reminds me of Trace Adkins, lol
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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I swear the couple they "Borrowed" their disguise from reminded me a little of the ones form the Dr. Who special, "Voyage of the Damned"
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1 month ago
Treister is back!!!!!
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1 month ago
Would anyone happen to know if there's a way to stream this not-live? (is that even streaming? Whatever)

I found out too late that my DVR hadn't recorded the special after all. Would there happen to be a way to watch this from the beginning?

I can't watch the 2:00am showing because of adult responsibilities, but I'm too impatient due to childish excitement.
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1 month ago
  • by captain V
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The entire episode is on adultswim.com including the bonus ending.
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1 month ago
NO! Scott!!
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1 month ago
I suspect the sovereign is being ousted. I also suspect that he knew this was coming.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Yikes!!!
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1 month ago
Also, Underbheit with a bat' leth, and JJ with a fantasy island reference
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1 month ago
Now the ending is coming fast! Too scared to whats happening next!!!
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1 month ago
Treister as Hulk!!! Damn cool!
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1 month ago
TREISTER SMASH :D
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1 month ago
OMG! Treister turns into Red Hulk. That's fitting.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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He is somewhat Thunderbolt-y.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Holy Frak!! The Investors are SITH!!!
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1 month ago
SITH!
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1 month ago
Did they...just shoot the Shapeshifter? Lol!
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1 month ago
Farewell, JJ & Tresiter!
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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That made me tear up a bit, the noblest of sacrifices by JJ, with Triester riding the center tower like Tommy Lee Jones in Space Cowboys
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1 month ago
Or...Major Kong on the Bomb.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Yeah, I thought of that at first, but considering they were saving everyone from the reactor blowing, I though "Space cowboys" was a better analogy,but I can totally see Major Kong riding that nuke into Laputa at the end of Dr. Strangelove
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I know it's highly impossible but I'm still not 100% convinced of their deaths. I need a body, a la Scott's.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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OOOHHH!!! Monarch gets the Ultimate Burn!!
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1 month ago
"Not you!"

Awesome!

Will need a score card and a slide rule to trace all the loose ends tied up . . . or knot.
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1 month ago
When Killenger says "Not you," was he saying The Monarch wouldn't be the Council of 13, or he won't be head of it?
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1 month ago
I think because The Monarch[!--Ed.] says, "The Monarch is on the Council of Thir" just as he turns the chair and Killinger says, "Not you," this means he is not on the Council at all.

So everyone can count out who the other 13 are:

1. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
2. Phantom Limb
3. Radical Left
4. Fat Chance
5. Red Mantle
6. Dragoon
7. Dr. Z
8. Prof. Impossible/Incorrigible--assuming he is still a part of it.

If the Baron survived that means 9. If Killinger is on it, 10--though I would not be surprised if he is not. Watch and Ward? Which, assuming I did not miss some obvious ones, there are between 2-5 empty chairs upon which to speculate.


But not The Monarch[!--Ed.]
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1 month ago
They killed so many people...
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1 month ago
So....where is this 5-min. epilogue that the bump speaks of?
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1 month ago
On the Adult Swim website. There is a link on the main page. Has a bit of promo for season 6 tacked on too.
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1 month ago
*Checking*

Ooo! Totally worth it!

Will not spoil it.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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All I can say about the episode, without giving away anything...

mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm,

mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm,
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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It is definitely my favorite part of the episode, and the funniest as far as I'm concerned. Here is that huge change Adult Swim promised us.
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1 month ago
Thank you!

Epilogue is great!
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1 month ago
You're welcome. Can't wait to see what happens in the new season.
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1 month ago
Oh wow, I hope on the DVD release this is part of the episode, that is some huge stuff!
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1 month ago
I nearly had the same reaction as Doc did at the very end. Holy Batshit! Everything is changed! But it probably won't take Rusty very long to run Venture Industries into the ground...... again.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Knowing JJ, the company probably runs itself. More time for adventures, then!
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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I'm just wondering what if the whole season is great and wild as hell.. but by the end of it; will Rusty run the company into the ground, lose all the blood money, and force the Venture brood into going back to the old compound?
Which obviously was rebuilt with the original blueprints from funds from the JJ memorial... unbeknownst to them while they've been away in New York.

Thus, what Archer did basically... a reset of sorts.
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1 month ago
Things haven't really been reset since Season three ended.
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28 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I meant deboot, not reset.
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23 days ago
Oh and I remove on A-Hole Point from Steven Colbert for returning to the series at least for this. I was very disappointed when he stopped doing doing the series long ago as probably everyone already knows.

Now . . . did we lose Unterbeit? :(
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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I concur good sir... I no longer hate Colbert for ditching.

Now, what the hell happened to Hader?!
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1 month ago
So we got
1.Killinger
2. The Monarch
3. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
4. 21
5. Phantom Limb
6. Radical Left
7. Watch
8. Ward
9. Phineas Phage (Maybe?)

Although Watch and Ward most likely will assume roles similar to what they had with the Guild. Any other villains male it that i missed?
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I think Fat Chance is alive. Out cold but alive. Plus, another drone of Mommy Longlegs' hive will likely take her place. And we didn't see what happened with Monsenor, although he might not have escaped the gas.
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1 month ago
  • by ChebGhobbi
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I checked back, before the other Council members escape he lurches forward, his head cracking the glass of his viewscreen. Seems pretty dead to me.

Poor Councilmen. I really liked all of them.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh well. Still plenty of costumed antagonists to fill the Council with though.
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1 month ago
Brick Frog!
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1 month ago
  • by Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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New Council?

Dr. Killinger
Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
Gary
Watch
Ward
Phantom Limb
Baron Underbite
Prof Impossible/Incorrigible
Fat Choice
Radical Left
Dr. Z
Dr. Phineas Phage
Red Mantle & Dragoon
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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No I don't think Dr. Z and Red Mantle/Dragoon are going to be part of the council, remember they ended up ...

WARNING!!! SPOILER ALERT ACTIVATED!! SPOILER ALERT ACTIVATED!!
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1 month ago
  • by Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But now that SPOILER was S (shot) POIL (d) E (ad) R, immunity is no longer needed. So why not go back to the guild!
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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My guess... it's no longer a council of 13..
It's a council of however many Dr. Killinger wants.

The council number being 13 is now just arbitrary.. probably.
Maybe not.
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1 month ago
I don't think there's a Guild to go back to.
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1 month ago
Killenger said, "Not you" to The Monarch so I don't think he's in unless maybe the wife appeals.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Or maybe he's got a co-vote with Sheila, like what happened with Dragoon and Red Mantle.
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1 month ago
No, look again. The particular chair that he was running to was different. It was upholstered in red. I think that particular seat was not for him.
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1 month ago
Ah, as in the new Sovereign?
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1 month ago
So where does Rusty go now that the Venture Compound is toasted? Will he move in with The Monarch in the p;d house in New Jersey? And Rusty actually made a shield that worked? Is ge becoming an actual super scientist?
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1 month ago
Watch the webisode
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1 month ago
You should watch the epilogue (I just added a link to it above)!
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1 month ago
Worth the watch!

Good night people and have a scienTASTic day!
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Very much so.
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1 month ago
I think the shield getting fixed was more Dean than anything.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Well, he was intimately aware of the four-armedness of the Blue Team.
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1 month ago
He did spend some time with one of them so he probably remembers the extra hands pretty well
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Sure, he won the title of Lee-Hun-Tuk in battle with one of them as well.
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1 month ago
  • by mkruger
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Weren't their memories wiped at the end of that episode?
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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It's more that they were high, so the memories are probably still partially there.
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1 month ago
  • by DJ
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Additional footage and season 6 teaser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.adultswim.com/videos/the-venture-bros/the-venture-bros-special-epilogue/
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1 month ago
The decor in Monarch's old house kitchen is almost the same as Rusty's bathroom in the late Venture compound. Including bright green appliances
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Oh that whole sequence where the Monarch realized that Phantom Limb was in his house had we laughing as loud as I could without waking the wife who was already asleep while I watched on the cable app on my tablet. The Dean and Deluca reference nearly made me fall out of bed and the Wusthoff one nearly woke her up.
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1 month ago
  • by Meteor
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Interestingly...Monarch's family home is where Phantom Limb had Billy Quizboy sew Dragoon and Red Mantle together.

I didn't realize Phantom Limb had been using the Monarch home before Bot Seeks Bot.

I wonder if Phantom Limb might be Monarch's uncle.
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Definitely a good one. A lot of predictions that we made at the end of last season came true. It wasn't as epic as I was expecting, though (at least not until I saw the epilogue- definitely worth watching). I'm actually surprised more people didn't die. It made sense to kill some of them though- the Ventureverse was getting kind of crowded and some of them (like Scott Hall and most of the Council) had over-lasted their humor. Also, kind of a shame Hader wasn't there for Phage and his others, though very glad Stephen Colbert was Professor Impossible at least once more.

Definitely looking forward to Season 6. Until then, Go Team Venture!
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Exactly.

Why not kill off the characters that the voice actor keeps changing?
James did well with Phage, but you could tell instantly it wasn't Hader.
Killing off Phage and Prof. Impossible would make sense now.

Oh well.

More Toby Huss please.
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1 month ago
Sad to see Wild Fop bite the dust! Coulda been Morrissey under his make-up....
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1 month ago
Also, did Head shot kill the sovereign? When he shoots into the air and the bald eagle that falls??
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Computer says yes!!
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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We may never know.
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1 month ago
It's one heck of a coincidence if he didn't kill him, but I think it's implied.

You never know with this show though!
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1 month ago
  • by ChebGhobbi
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I kind of like the idea that the Sovereign gets a totally ignominious, accidental death, and we still don't know his real name or face. It's trés VB.
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1 month ago
Clearly "he" was Dean and Hank's Mom.





What?



*Flees Flying Beer Cans . . . and One Brick*
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Now that... that's an f'n twist... the shape-shifting sovereign was actually Hank and Dean's Mom all along!
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1 month ago
One guy thinks so - he wrote an interesting essay that concludes sovereign has just as ignominious a death as was his beginning. If anyone would like to check it out, I couldn't recommend it more.

http://burningpapertigers.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/the-sovereign-a-villain-of-true-substance/
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6 days ago
The...F*ck??
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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Holy Frak!! We totally overlooked the Star Trek: TMP reference when JJ greeted the guests. I just realized the staff were all in those uniforms from the first movie!!
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1 month ago
JJ greeted the guests with a line from Fantasy Island. It was usually preceeded by "da plane, boss! da plane!" Which was delivered by herve villechaize, himself a diminutive man.
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1 month ago
  • by AntonSolo
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I just caught something else after watching the episode on my cable's On-Demand. The bridge of Gargantua 2 is a near replica of the bridge of General Grievous's ship, the Invisible Hand. I don't know how I missed it before, but that was an awesome surprise...
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1 month ago
New Merch at the Astrobase!
http://astrobasego.com/
Two Hats, and a HOODIE!
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Ok, they IDed Jackson and Doc but who's the Biggs-type in the hoodie? It might be Jackson again but the helmet's making it difficult to tell.
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Not going to lie... I'm probably going to be getting both hats.
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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I'm also one of those people they mention in the description who wears a knit hat in the summer time.
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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They absolutely rode the shark.

A 10/10 overall.
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1 month ago
One more I remember now upon rewatching, just in case anyone is wondering, Sam Harris is a so-called celebrity atheist whose name Hunter transposed for "God" in his first scene. Just another not so obvious nod to Doc and Jackson's non-religious-ness.
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Epilogue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDRIMO7AL8U

AS put this on youtube too.
More convenient as youtube works on more of my devices, and in HD on my TV.
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1 month ago
  • by Anonymous
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huh? I haven't picked up any non-religiousness in the series at all. Religious stories (in particular judeo-christain ones) have been referenced throughout the series. God if referenced as well. Hunter himself has called Rusty a Godless idiot (not in a good way,) Brock has quoted a psalm, The brothers have called on Jesus, Rusty has used God as a threat.
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1 month ago
Shoreleave:... The power of prayer can move mountains, Hank.
Doc: *scoff* That's worse than calling Orpheous.
Source: The Family That Slays Together Stays Together (part 2) Season 3.
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1 month ago
Col. Gathers is an atheist but I don't think that implies that Doc and Jackson are.
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1 month ago
Isn't it great that we are all enjoying hot and fresh Venture Bros. again!!!! Thank you Jackson & Doc!!! Thank you both for bringing the amazing back to television!! Looking forward to the rest of Season 6!
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1 month ago
A great day for super scientists and ambitious costumed villains everywhere!

Lots of unanswered questions:
- will Gary finally get a working lightsaber?
- how will Billy react to his mother being a former...professional dancer?
- will Gathers allow the zebra on the helicarrier?
- does Hanks shuttle trip on Amber's lap foreshadow a love trapezoid with Headshot and Brock?
- will Colbert have Doc and Jackson on Latenight?
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1 month ago
  • by ChebGhobbi
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Looked to me (on a second viewing) that the lightsaber fight took place in Killinger and the Investors' minds, or was just a cool representation of their mental battle for our benefit - notice that the room wasn't smashed to pieces when the Monarch and co. entered.
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1 month ago
  • by ChebGhobbi
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Hey guys, good to be back, and good to see so many familiar names. Just caught the episode, and let me tell you, it's been hard not to look up spoilers all day while at work.

************SPOILERS AHOY***********

So...first off..man that was good! Although I feel bad for the dead Councilmen, especially Steppenwolf just because he was my favourite, and I thought Don Hell went in a really grisly manner. As soon as I saw The Nerve back in season 5 I thought he looks incredibly vulnerable to anything that shatters his glass body, and it looks like I was right. Feels like we spent so long waiting for those guys to get IDed, and just as we get a tiny, tantalising glimpse into who they really are...they're all gone. Doc and Jackson are teases of the highest order. Plus, we still don't have a name for Councilman 10.

I was hoping Councilman 11 would turn out to be a previous Mommy Long-Legs, may be a Grandma Long-Legs. Would have explained how she could be at the Council meeting in Shadowman 9 while still being at the Coccoon, although she is part of a colony, as we now know, and we also know that the Council used telescreens to communicate at a distance.

Did anyone notice the name of the OSI agent who lost Red Mantle and Dragoon? Henderson - the bedwetter from OSI Love You.

When we saw Jonas Senior, I couldn't believe it, but in a weird way it felt somehow perfect, even though it wasn't him. It was a fantastic twist even though wasn't.

Trying to get my head around the plot - someone correct me if I'm wrong on anything here. So, the Sovereign had made some sort of deal with the Investors (possibly to attain his position; maybe that's how Force Majeure died?), but he knew that they would collect on the debt, so his plot was to destroy them. To do that, he promised Phantom Limb a place on the council for he and his teammates, so he knocked off five Councilmen to make room (this last part is speculation), which had the added bonus of getting rid of five guys who'd disobeyed his orders not to meet and risked exposing their identities, allowing the OSI to get closer to him (this may have been his main motivation for the murders; Gathers seemed to think it was because OSI was getting close to him, and the surviving Councilmen obviously feared for their lives, in any case they were expendable as far as the Sovereign was concerned). Limb's part of the bargain was to destroy Gargantua 2, and in doing so eliminate the Investors.

The Investors are the same as Killinger, whatever that may be. Gods? Are they aware of the Master, and is he aware of them? Killinger seems to be comfortable in the role of a facilitator of evil, someone who takes a bad person and makes them better at what they do, whereas the Investors apparently want control.

It's pretty clear the Sovereign killed off the Council, so I'm guessing now that the Investors' purpose in visiting the OSI Hoverquarters was simply to off Monstroso. For a while I thought that perhaps they wanted to know the identities of the Council too.

That's as much as I can think of for now. Finally, great shout to whoever it was that surmised that the Monarch's childhood home was the same building Limb and co. were squatting in! Once that was pointed out I couldn't unsee it. Was it the same building he used for surgery on Mantle and Dragoon in The Revenge Society? It certainly looked the same in the outtake from Bright Lights, Dean City.
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1 month ago
The Investor's names match minor winds ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#Minor_winds ) from Greek mythology. That would make Killinger Apeliotes, the gentle SE wind.
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1 month ago
I believe it's more likely that the council was killed off because they would have stood against the Sovereign in his ploy to destroy the station. Red, Dragoon, and Z all mentioned that the "Old Guard" wouldn't stand for his behavior. The Sovereign broke *a lot* of rules in his attempt to do away with the Investors.
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1 month ago
  • by FrostlyKnight
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Color me a little suspicious of the lack of corpus delicti on the Sovereign, J.J, and Treister. I mean there was some secret business that JJ had with the Investors... and they basically spurred the Sovereign into action in this episode. Also the bird, unless its some weird animation fluke, doesn't seem to be the same bird as it has white feathers on most of the breast of the bird where in the previous scene it was only around its neck area.
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1 month ago
  • by ChebGhobbi
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(dons dirty mac, inserts glass eye)

One more thing...

Something I found quite touching about this episode was that JJ, for all his bluster and all his success, actually felt in the end like he lost to Rusty. I've hated the way many fans will just say 'the show is about failure' and leave that as an explanation for the things that happen in it, and from what I've read from Jackson and Doc it's a bit of an albatross for them too.

The last couple of seasons, we've seen over and over how, despite everyone on the show being a failure and a mess to some degree, they can all succeed in their own right - think Dean coming out of his shell, Hank finally admitting that Hatred is part of the family...and now Doc getting the justification from the brother, whose shadow he spent the last X years in, that he beat him, in his own faily way.

I'm struggling to put into words what I'm trying to say here, really. There was just something terribly satisfactory about the way the Venture family dynamic changed in this episode.

Maybe it's each character's slow realisation that they don't have to live in the box that they've been put in - Rusty can be a father, and doesn't have to be a swashbuckling superscientist adventurer (remember his brief conversation with Dean at the end of The Better Man?), Hatred can explore his nurturing side rather than being a supervillain (he obviously loves being a parental figure, and got a kick out of being a cook in Everybody Comes to Hank's). Or maybe not, because that doesn't apply to so many of the characters - it looks like Dean may be quite the boy adventurer, future scientist after all.
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1 month ago
I thought it was really cool that the Guild fallout is a parallel to Hunter taking the OSI; where the rebel group that splits off (SPHINX, Revenge Society) ends up proving their worth to the original group and "coming home" to it. That "send them off somewhere, let them grow, then they come home" is kind of a motif for the show, with it happening at least to Brock, Hank, Dean, and now 21.

Also I loved Treister saving Dean and Doc, Dean met probably his most famous/important fan and didn't even realize it!
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1 month ago
Did Treister read Dean's paper? Did I miss something? How is this possible? Does not compute.. Who am I? I think the plane is going.. doooown...
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1 month ago
In Operation P.R.O.M., Treister is reading Dean's paper when Hunter first arrives with Doe and Cardholder. "Hey! I'm in here!"
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1 month ago
SPHINX!
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1 month ago
Did anyone save the squid?!

How did the OSI get the intel on the remaining council members? Maybe Brock snagged a CPU from Vandata?

Did anyone else let out a cheer when Brock snapped Zero's neck?
When Zero said, "I hench... for NO man." I think that was a take on a line from The Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, "I move... for NO man."
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1 month ago
I just assumed Ghost Robot snapped pictures in Bot Seeks Bot.. I just don't get why they thought Vendata was missing. Brock killed him
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1 month ago
True for some of the council members, but they weren't all there at the club. And Dr. Z's pic up on the big board was a much older photo from about when he made that Stop That Blundering video. And I was thinking the same thing about Vandata when they said he was still M.I.A. Would there be a reason Brock didn't want to tell Hunter that he killed him?
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1 month ago
I would imagine that it's against the O.S.I. - Guild of Calamitous Intent treaty for Brock to kill Vendata under such circumstances (probably allowed only in certain situations, such as during an 'arching' where the villain uses high level weaponry/intent to kill). I always assumed Brock just beat him to hell, not killed him.
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1 month ago
Also - a sort of foreshadowing for Zero - doomed like The Black Knight. Wouldn't it be terrible if he became another Venturestine?


'Prostitooo!'
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27 days ago
If the Ventures move off to NY, then what happens to Dermot?
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1 month ago
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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It seems to be implied that the Venture Compound isn't terribly far from NY. Monarch and Gary could drive there from Newark Liberty Airport in less than a day, so Dermott could probably come up on weekends.
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1 month ago
I disagree. The Cocoon is shown hiding out in the Grand Canyon (Arizona) and it seems near to the Venture Compound. Billy and Peter's trailer is located in a desert locale. And when Rusty needed some daily labor physicists he went to a street corner and tried to hire some Mexicans. So I think the Venture Compound is located in the Southwest.
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1 month ago
Colorado Springs.
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1 month ago
Colorado Springs is likely, and that information comes out in the pilot, but the pilot is largely disregarded as non-connonical.
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1 month ago
They flew from the airport, not drove, and therefore picked up the rental car at the destination airport. Remember they had had to pass through airport security. You don't need to do that to get a rental car.
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1 month ago
  • by Meteor
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He moves to a trailer park outside of Manhattan.
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1 month ago
Did anyone else notice that was the Sovereign that Headshot shot out of the air?
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1 month ago
I hope so, but wouldn't he have reverted to his true form?
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1 month ago
How practical is it to have secret headquarters in outer space? Without teleporter technology it would take a long time to assemble all the members by rocket. Plus rocket launches are kind of noticeable.

And a nit: So the interns building the shield built four-handed manual reset. Fair enough but their hands are two pair set above each other. The shield has two sets of hand holes next to each other. Shouldn't the second set of hole been above the first set?
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1 month ago
Dr girlfriend got there minutes after the sovereign's lair blew up. And they could have done a left hands in one side, right hands in the other. Though it seems ergonomically impossible
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1 month ago
Hmm, not sure!
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1 month ago
  • by Poeju
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Fat Chance can teleport people back and forth easily enough, if it's an issue. Plus I'm sure supersonic travel of some sort is viable in the Ventureverse.

I noticed the hands being odd even for those interns, but that's a minor grievance.
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1 month ago
I assumed that because the extra arms were smaller, that the user would stand dead center. Smaller arms in the middle two, larger arms for the outer two
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1 month ago
  • by Bob
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Did anyone catch a resemblance between the old broken down house they were at and "the house on Paper Street" from "Fight Club"?
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1 month ago
Yes, that was pointed out by many folks when Season 5 ended.
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1 month ago
I thought we we're suppose to talk about it.
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1 month ago
We weren't supposed to talk about it..? Talk about wha…?
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1 month ago
Project Mayhem!

Which we don't talk about . . . or even we're talk about.
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1 month ago
This episode could give "The Empire Strikes Back" a run for it's money. And not because of the 'sabers reference. The pacing and tension was so tight. For my cup of tea, it was perfect.
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1 month ago
  • by vet_boy77
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Loved it.
We're lead to believe that JJ was in league with the Investors and perhaps why he wanted to downplay the who Guild-OSI thing. Also, with Killinger being opposed to the investors, could this is why he was trying to get Rusty to arch JJ in "The Dr. is Sin"- perhaps too much of a stretch.
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1 month ago
I never liked the Investors. On one level their goals were never clear. So they give money to people but since they're villains what is their payoff? They could be related to Mephistopheles and are out to collect souls. But that is never made clear, Maybe like Lucy from Peanuts they exist to torment people by promising them one thing and pulling the rug out from under them in the end? And since they can pass through walls and don't seem limited by things being in the air how does one fight them? They're just too far out for the rest of the Ventureverse. While I'm glad Killenger eliminated the Investors Killenger has the same problems and I'd like him gone as well.
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1 month ago
I was with you until the end: Dr. Killinger is awesome.

I think his brothers are like what you describe--meddlesome. They collect debts and collect on them. See what happened to King Gorilla and Monstroso.

Dr. Killinger, on the other hand, offers to bring a person to his potential--whatever it is. He does not force people into things. So he helps Dean and Hank, and Brock financially, all the way to Dr. Venture, but he does not push him into being a Super Villain. One might also say he inspired Henchman 21/Gary to be more independent by opposing him.

His only "failure," thus far, was his attempt to reconcile Mira and Dr. V. Perhaps Mira was just too f'd up?

Unlike him, The Investors DO meddle. Hence his admonishment to them.

He also allows favorite characters to exist--like Phantom Limb. Is he going to go after "Shelia"--Dr. Mrs. The Monarch[!--Ed.] as before? Without him, PL is just either psychotic and pathetic or hunted down by the Sovereign.

Anyways, I think they nicely tied up some "loose ends" which will allow the show to progress.

And now . . . a moment of silence for Scott. . . .
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1 month ago
  • by zip
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You can see Hank steal the moustache literally right under Brock's nose as he's leaving the suite. Score one for the Hankinator.
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1 month ago
Once I saw that, I assumed he was Professor Impossible in disguise. Guess Hank's getting even craftier nowadays.
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1 month ago
One thing no one's mentioned yet is; on the flight up to G2 Col. Gentleman is seen browbeating a robot-waiter yet at the conclusion of the episode he is picked up and saved by one. There's still hope yet for him to find his "Metal-Mandingo"...
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1 month ago
*Read in the Voice of Sir Sean Con . . . er . . . Col. Gentleman*

"And so, I broke that filly. He was a strong-willed robot and gave me my exercise but, ultimately, he was a pliant as a kitten with a blow-torch accessory!"

:D
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1 month ago
"I want it with the Hitachi-attachment this time…set it for Tantric-Bliss!"
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1 month ago
Of course, the oddest part of all is the obscurish reference Sovereign!21 made to Totally Spies. I keep expecting to see fan art of DMTM in a green catsuit......
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Everyone has forgotten to mention the best part of this episodic... it has great rewatchability. That is the key to great storytelling on television.
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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With the setup for season 6... Rusty can finally afford to make his broadway musical!!!!
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1 month ago
Definitely! I've seen it a few times now and I appreciate it more each time (especially since the first time I was terrified about what would happen).
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1 month ago
  • by Wally Bollywood in S.A.S.E.
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so, Half Jackal is Radical Left.. right? so sad to see all those weirdo villains go so suddenly as their oddness was handed to us last season with snips of intrigue & freakishness. viva Phin Phage tho, glad you made it you crippled bio hazard.

the fishing boat submarine(?) was brilliant left field ...weird.

Killinger voice-"Vee are not like other men, vee are German Fürthvolker."
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29 days ago
No, you're way off on that one my friend! Radical Left is still with the living and is shown at the end of the episode. Half Jackal is Steppenwolf and he got blowed the F up!
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26 days ago
  • by Nordman
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So, does anyone know if the big spaceplane that Doc, Hank, Dean, etc. took to Gargantua 2 was supposed to be the X-30/NASP? Sure looks like it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_X-30

I can't believe that project was over 20 years ago. Would have been so cool if they had built it.
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18 days ago
  • by Captain V
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It definitely isn't just a coincide, that's a very nice find!
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18 days ago
  • by Nordman
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Thanks. The other thing I was wondering about was the lounge singer during JJ's commercial: he seems to look a lot like Dean Martin. Of course, Martin was in the original Ocean's 11 movie, where he played a member of a gang who rob casinos, and masqueraded as a lounge singer.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it :-).
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1 month ago
  • by Tom B
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Anyone got a source for an MP3 of the Calliope version of the funeral dirge that they played at Boggles funeral. Too much noise in the show for a decent capture.
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1 month ago
Great beginning to season 6 can't wait for more. There were some great Hank moments like the Master Blaster reference, how awesome he was talking to Amber Gold, and throwing up after Brock snapped Zero's neck. Totally Hank. Also loved the splash sound effect when the Sovereign appeared in front of the Phantom Limb as he struggled on the toilet. The Crash Test Dummies sing along during JJ's funeral was also funny but then sad as JJ is probably dead. I get the feeling JJ might appear to Rusty from beyond as Yoda did to Luke. JJ said they would always be connected.
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1 month ago
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