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Showdown at Cremation Creek, Discussion, Part II
And that's all she wrote, folks. Hopefully this one will actually be on AS Fix tonight since I'm writing this post on Thursday night and I won't be able to edit it on Friday night. Enjoy the final episode of the season and here's to season three sometime in the future! And remember, spoilers in the comments, so stay away if you don't want the fun ruined. Good night, and good luck!
- by Andrew
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- by Doc Kneezy
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God I wish I had the fucking Fix right now....That episode blew my fucking expectations off of the fucking chart. I absolelutly loved every second of it. The henchmen finally get a leader and mount an attack against phantom limb, David Bowie turns out to be the Soverign, Dean goes into some weird fantasy world, this fuckin' episode speaks for itself. I'm kinda sad this season is over. It seems just like yesterday I was waiting for "Powerless in the Face of Death" to come on [adult swim] and now the last episode is over. Dean's fantasy was funny and all but it was really irrelevent to the plot. I'm not sayin' it was completely useless but they could have done so much more with him being in the engine room. It felt like "House of Mummies" where they were trying to combine two different plots into one. That could have been an episode by itself. It could have been titled "Nightmarish Illusions" or something. This season has been exceptional. Every episode raised the bar, then the following episode shattered it. This is what years of hard work produces. Hilarious moments,character development,superior writers,amazing plots,great animation. Fuck is there anything this show doesn't have???IGN needs to recognize the greatness of this show and stop ranting and raving over The Simpsons and Family Guy because we all know neither of those shows can fuck with this one. Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick have created something truly original and awesome. No other show can give you Comedy/Character Development/Action/Blood all in one. Every day I grow to love this show more and more. [adult swim] doesn't even need to debate whether or not The Venture Bros. deserves a season 3. This show has the potential to have 10 fucking exceptional seasons. I can't wait for season 3. I hope they release the DVD soon. At least by April. Not 2 fucking years. All I can do now is wait for the Season 2 of the The Venture Bros. on DVD and Season 3. Go Team Venture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- by Ytoabn
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Woo-freakin-hoo! That was a fantastic episode.
Some things that should show up in the notes:
Phantom Limb: Hamilton G. Phantomnos
Hank "Reallen" Venture
And of course, the soverign is David Bowie who apparently has the power to transform into anything. Including cigarettes.
Murder-flies!
I also love how they randomly throw in great functionality for the wings of the henchmen.
Oh yeah, were all henchmen killed except 21 & 24? If so, jawesome.
I was disapointed that Dean's story went off into basically any direction. I'm also disapointed that the Order of the Triad was almost completely unnecesary in this episode. Oh well.
Finding random parts of Phantom Limb was hilarious. It also proves that whenever a part is detached it remains in phantom form.
Finally, the last little teaser cliffhanger with Dr. ... lets call it Girlfriend since she didn't say "I do" seemed unnecesary.
Oh well, a fantastic end.
Some things that should show up in the notes:
Phantom Limb: Hamilton G. Phantomnos
Hank "Reallen" Venture
And of course, the soverign is David Bowie who apparently has the power to transform into anything. Including cigarettes.
Murder-flies!
I also love how they randomly throw in great functionality for the wings of the henchmen.
Oh yeah, were all henchmen killed except 21 & 24? If so, jawesome.
I was disapointed that Dean's story went off into basically any direction. I'm also disapointed that the Order of the Triad was almost completely unnecesary in this episode. Oh well.
Finding random parts of Phantom Limb was hilarious. It also proves that whenever a part is detached it remains in phantom form.
Finally, the last little teaser cliffhanger with Dr. ... lets call it Girlfriend since she didn't say "I do" seemed unnecesary.
Oh well, a fantastic end.
- by WorstServedCold
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Yeah, preggo = gross, but at least it's now totally sealed that Dr. Girlfriend is and always has been a chick. My shrine can stay up. I gotta see if I can track down the first Showdown on youtube, and watch it and this part straight, as one long episode, I think I'd like it more that way.
I'm still kinda spaced after watching it though... I mean really, what?
I'm still kinda spaced after watching it though... I mean really, what?
- by Tony YTMND
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- by Kristin
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But she also denied that she was pregnant. I'd like to think that she wouldn't say she wasn't and then turn around a month later and say that she is. That'd be kinda lame. Though I suppose she could have not known it or have conceived afterwards, in which case it'll be The Monarch's.
- by Pirate Hippy
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She didn't really deny she was pregnant; she changed the subject.
So here's the possibilies: she knew she was pregnant, and it's either The Monarch's or Phantom Limb's. Or she did not yet know she was pregnant, and it's either The Monarch's or Phantom Limb's, but she found out later that she was pregnant (she might have still been avoiding the issue or "in denial" when the Monarch asked her the question at the beginning of part one of this episode).
Can't wait for season three; we'll find out then presumably.
So here's the possibilies: she knew she was pregnant, and it's either The Monarch's or Phantom Limb's. Or she did not yet know she was pregnant, and it's either The Monarch's or Phantom Limb's, but she found out later that she was pregnant (she might have still been avoiding the issue or "in denial" when the Monarch asked her the question at the beginning of part one of this episode).
Can't wait for season three; we'll find out then presumably.
- by Grasshoppers
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It only takes two weeks after conception to discover pregnancy. It's possible Dr. G wasn't pregnant when she and The Monarch met in the motel, but, well, it's not like they stopped having sex that month, so it's safe to assume that sometime during their bedroom escapades she could have conceived.
- by Gothicoyne
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I have watched that episode plenty of times, you still don't know what happened between Dr. Girlfriend and Rusty. Yes, she injected him w/that crazy butterfly serum, but that doesn't prove she and him didn't do anything. Let's put it this way, would you be suprised if i was right? I think not!
- by Pirate Hippy
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Unless of course you think she stuck a probe up Rusty's ass and artificially....ummm.....nevermind you know what I mean. Since she was there to inject him with the serum and not to steal his sperm, I think the only logical conclusion is that she did her job and escaped, and the confused/drugged Rusty just assumed he "scored" since he can't remember what happened. Plus Dr. Girlfriend denied she slept with him and so far I've seen absolutely zero evidence that she is attracted to Dr. Venture.
- by Pirate Hippy
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If Dr. Girlfriend was really attracted to Rusty, why not make love and THEN zap him with the serum? Why knock him out before? And as for the morning, we don't see what happened but Rusty was extremely groggy so Dr. Girlfriend probably told him to go get coffee as a way of getting him out of the room so she could make her escape. If she really wanted to make love to Rusty, her chance to do so was before injecting him with the serum. I really don't think she would want to have made love to a groggy, drugged Rusty who was in the process of turning into a giant insect larva. That would be rather gross and her first instinct would to have been to make her getaway at the first opportunity.
Later she would regret what she did, give Rusty a sympathy date, but no opportunity for sex; remember Rusty is about to become a gross insect larva, so she would not want to be in bed with THAT....and finally the final visit to administer the anti-venom.
I mean I can't conclusively prove she didn't have sex with Dr. Venture based on the actual events shown on screen, but it just doesn't make any sense given her character and the situation. But if it makes you happy to think she and Rusty did the nasty, go ahead and think that.
Later she would regret what she did, give Rusty a sympathy date, but no opportunity for sex; remember Rusty is about to become a gross insect larva, so she would not want to be in bed with THAT....and finally the final visit to administer the anti-venom.
I mean I can't conclusively prove she didn't have sex with Dr. Venture based on the actual events shown on screen, but it just doesn't make any sense given her character and the situation. But if it makes you happy to think she and Rusty did the nasty, go ahead and think that.
- by Gothicoyne
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You put up a hell of an arguement, i mean, you've really thought this through. I'm not here to criticize what ppl may think, i mean, this is a twisted-animated series on the cartoon network, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN! I think forums are great to come and get your thoughts out and to view other ppls points. Your points seem to be very logical on this topic, but you have to remember that this show does always seem logical, there are lots of suprises. Whatever happens next season, i'm sure it'll be great!
- by Pirate Hippy
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And since I'm beating a dead horse, let's not forget the humorous angle with Dr. Venture: he said he didn't lose his virginity until he was 24, IIRC, and the boys are 19 years old (or would be if the originals were still alive), so what, he's had sex maybe once in 43 years, but he THINKS he's had sex twice! Joke's on you, Rusty!
- by machineguncharley
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You know, I just had a really funny thought...I don't know how this would work with continuity/timeline, but could it be possible that Dr. Girlfriend is pregnant with Rusty Venture's child? Ha! Now THAT would be GREAT! She was, after all, pretty nervous when Dr. Venture tried to put the moves on her before the wedding!
- by Pirate Hippy
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I'm pretty certain that she did not have sex with Dr. Venture; she injected him with the butterfly serum when he was still trying to find a condom. And anyway that was too long ago; if that incident made her pregnant she would have had the baby by now - or at least be visibly pregnant. If there's a baby it is either Phantom Limb's or The Monarch's. IMO.
- by Pirate Hippy
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Gross.
In the first episode of season one Dr. Girlfriend already said she doesn't want kids - anyway she agreed with the Monarch that they did not want to have kids - so I doubt she would go the artificial insemination route, and if she did, why would she chose Rusty Venture? She could do a lot better!
IMO based on her character development so far in the show, Dr. Girlfriend doesn't really want to have kids and wasn't planning this pregnancy. But we'll see how that pans out in season three.
In the first episode of season one Dr. Girlfriend already said she doesn't want kids - anyway she agreed with the Monarch that they did not want to have kids - so I doubt she would go the artificial insemination route, and if she did, why would she chose Rusty Venture? She could do a lot better!
IMO based on her character development so far in the show, Dr. Girlfriend doesn't really want to have kids and wasn't planning this pregnancy. But we'll see how that pans out in season three.
- by Steve W
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Holy-tapdancing-crap-on-a-stick! That was an amazing episode! David Bowie as the Sovereign, Brock as the leader of the henchman, Hank going into battle with him, Billy Quizboy and Pete White in Dean's hallucination, and the Star Wars guy piloting the X-1! This was an insane amount of fun crammed into 22 minutes!
I'm wondering what's going to happen with Phantom Limb, not only because he's escaped but also he got some of his limbs cut off in the crash (along with his dick, apparently). And why exactly did Dean start hallucinating, anyway? He was trapped in an engine room, he wasn't in very much danger that would make his mind conjure up such weird stuff to escape his fear.
I concur that The Order Of The Triad should have had a little more to do in this episode. But I liked how casual The Monarch and Dr. Venture were around each other, considering their history.
I hope to God that Cartoon Network renews the series for more than 13 episodes in a season. Considering how well the season 1 DVD did (it was Amazon.com's best selling DVD right after release), I hope CN pumps a little more money and resources into the show and give us a full 24 episode season. It would probably kill Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick, though....
I'm wondering what's going to happen with Phantom Limb, not only because he's escaped but also he got some of his limbs cut off in the crash (along with his dick, apparently). And why exactly did Dean start hallucinating, anyway? He was trapped in an engine room, he wasn't in very much danger that would make his mind conjure up such weird stuff to escape his fear.
I concur that The Order Of The Triad should have had a little more to do in this episode. But I liked how casual The Monarch and Dr. Venture were around each other, considering their history.
I hope to God that Cartoon Network renews the series for more than 13 episodes in a season. Considering how well the season 1 DVD did (it was Amazon.com's best selling DVD right after release), I hope CN pumps a little more money and resources into the show and give us a full 24 episode season. It would probably kill Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick, though....
- by Pirate Hippy
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Yes we all know that they are big Bowie fans. Duh. You missed the point of my question: in the Venture Brothers universe, what are the Diamond Dogs, ie, not just another Bowie album, but what are they "literally", in this cartoon series? Obviously they hunt people that Bowie/The Sovereign wants found, but what are they exactly?
- by Pirate Hippy
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And to add to the previous comment, yeah, we "get" that it's another Bowie reference - but Jackson/Doc put it in there with the idea that the Diamond Dogs are actual characters in the Venture Brothers universe, so, we can speculate on what the Diamond Dogs are, since we might actually see them in future VB episodes (anyway it is a possibility).
- by Mr. Noy
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I'm a big Bowie fan so I've really enjoyed all of the references and characters inspired by his lyrics.
So far we've seen: Major Tom, The Action Man, Nomi calls Bowie "Queen Bitch", and now Bowie has referred to the Diamond Dogs. Also, in "Oh, You Pretty Things" Bowie refers to The Strangers.
Colonel Gentleman's List of Bowie Inspired VB Characters He'd Like to See:
Aladdin Sane, The Spiders from Mars, The Young Americans, Lady Stardust, The Supermen, Jean Genie, Lady Grinning Soul, Halloween Jack, Thin White Duke, and my personal favorite, the anti-Hank and Dean:
The Bewley Brothers.
So far we've seen: Major Tom, The Action Man, Nomi calls Bowie "Queen Bitch", and now Bowie has referred to the Diamond Dogs. Also, in "Oh, You Pretty Things" Bowie refers to The Strangers.
Colonel Gentleman's List of Bowie Inspired VB Characters He'd Like to See:
Aladdin Sane, The Spiders from Mars, The Young Americans, Lady Stardust, The Supermen, Jean Genie, Lady Grinning Soul, Halloween Jack, Thin White Duke, and my personal favorite, the anti-Hank and Dean:
The Bewley Brothers.
- by LBJ
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It was left ambiguous, for season 3! All we can do is guess. I'm betting Dr. G's pregnant - I think that baboon uterus is fully functional!
Dean wasn't hallucinating, he was bored - so he started to daydream. Apparently when they boys get separated their mental defects get more extreme. Hank's behavior gets increasingly risky (a la jumping off the Venture Compound roof in his bat costume), and Dean loses touch with reality (the X-2 is the flying dog from Neverending Story).
Dean wasn't hallucinating, he was bored - so he started to daydream. Apparently when they boys get separated their mental defects get more extreme. Hank's behavior gets increasingly risky (a la jumping off the Venture Compound roof in his bat costume), and Dean loses touch with reality (the X-2 is the flying dog from Neverending Story).
- by LBJ
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Just a few of my favorite things from this ep:
- the sound effects when the cocoon's antimatter engines fired up
- 'Strangers, attack!!'
- the henchman Brock tattoo'd on the face gets a speaking line
- the ENTIRE FLYING BATTLE SCENE IN THE GRAND CANYON!!!
- flies playing drums
- Dr. Venture does nothing but eat the entire episode. I think he's the only one who got to taste the wedding cake.
- butterfly wings with airbags
- 'The Venture Brothers will return...'
- the sound effects when the cocoon's antimatter engines fired up
- 'Strangers, attack!!'
- the henchman Brock tattoo'd on the face gets a speaking line
- the ENTIRE FLYING BATTLE SCENE IN THE GRAND CANYON!!!
- flies playing drums
- Dr. Venture does nothing but eat the entire episode. I think he's the only one who got to taste the wedding cake.
- butterfly wings with airbags
- 'The Venture Brothers will return...'
- by Pirate Hippy
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"the sound effects when the cocoon's antimatter engines fired up"
Also the sound effects when the wedding guests are fleeing the cocoon in their various flying machines. Pure Star Wars.
"Dr. Venture does nothing but eat the entire episode. I think he's the only one who got to taste the wedding cake."
Reminded me of the operation scenes when Dean had testiculor torsion. He basically ate and watched TV then too.
"butterfly wings with airbags"
Butterfly wings were airbags!
Also the sound effects when the wedding guests are fleeing the cocoon in their various flying machines. Pure Star Wars.
"Dr. Venture does nothing but eat the entire episode. I think he's the only one who got to taste the wedding cake."
Reminded me of the operation scenes when Dean had testiculor torsion. He basically ate and watched TV then too.
"butterfly wings with airbags"
Butterfly wings were airbags!
- by Lady Au Par
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I loved
-Butterfly wings with airbags!
-the Star Wars guy turning into a blue-green splat
-Triana as the Princess from the Never Ending Story
-Falco!
-Today you aren't butterflys... You are MurderFlys!!!!
-The Order of the Triad did nothing but banter and wreck the X-1 and yet still Dr. O managed to be smug
-21 and 24 were so lame, I wish they were real and I knew them.;)
-Dr. Venture eating cake
Didn't love
-Bowie has supreme evil dictator, pretty predictable
-Stupid 23 minutes, why isn't that show at least 35 minutes, if not an hour?
-Butterfly wings with airbags!
-the Star Wars guy turning into a blue-green splat
-Triana as the Princess from the Never Ending Story
-Falco!
-Today you aren't butterflys... You are MurderFlys!!!!
-The Order of the Triad did nothing but banter and wreck the X-1 and yet still Dr. O managed to be smug
-21 and 24 were so lame, I wish they were real and I knew them.;)
-Dr. Venture eating cake
Didn't love
-Bowie has supreme evil dictator, pretty predictable
-Stupid 23 minutes, why isn't that show at least 35 minutes, if not an hour?
- by Tony YTMND
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I did expect Bowie to be the Sovereign, along many others on last weeks post :P
I'm hoping its not "I'm a man" or "I'm Pregnant". I'm with that thought of yours that it must ans has to be something TOTALLY unexpected. Because the Monarch's reaction was simple and not totally surprised "what!".. he dint even seem that angry?
ITS A CLIFFANGER argh!! LOL and I thought this was going to be the series finale or something :p
I'm hoping its not "I'm a man" or "I'm Pregnant". I'm with that thought of yours that it must ans has to be something TOTALLY unexpected. Because the Monarch's reaction was simple and not totally surprised "what!".. he dint even seem that angry?
ITS A CLIFFANGER argh!! LOL and I thought this was going to be the series finale or something :p
- by carterman
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Re: Bowie - Well, it was a possibility after Part 1, but when you first heard about the identity of the Sovereign being revealed, did you really think that it would be Bowie? That's more of what I was trying to get at.
Re: Dr. Girlfriend's secret - the Monarch did seem kinda angry about it, although it'd be funny if it was just one big joke or whatever. That'd be funny. Also, as The Monarch would say, "DICK MOVE!"
Re: Dr. Girlfriend's secret - the Monarch did seem kinda angry about it, although it'd be funny if it was just one big joke or whatever. That'd be funny. Also, as The Monarch would say, "DICK MOVE!"
- by zombiejesus
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ewwww......!
look at hank and the alchemist sitting in the middle of the x-1 (ahem) cockpit. al is totally giving hank the whoremonger leer, and hank is obviously creeped out. alchemist did mistakenly note that hank might be gay in the Fallen Arches episode when hank was still in a dress at the end.
look at hank and the alchemist sitting in the middle of the x-1 (ahem) cockpit. al is totally giving hank the whoremonger leer, and hank is obviously creeped out. alchemist did mistakenly note that hank might be gay in the Fallen Arches episode when hank was still in a dress at the end.
- by Steve W
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I noticed the Alchemist leering at Hank too. That was very creepy. I've noticed all sorts of things from rewatching it again. Like that the videogame headed villain that was in the background on a couple of episodes flew away from the cocoon in a Recognizer from the movie Tron. I loved the dialog between Brock and The Monarch: "Magenta? That's your battle mode color" "Eat a dick!" And Dean dropping in on the insect Monarch while screaming "Yo Joe!"
- by Spaceboy
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- by richardpatrick
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wow. speechless! almost too much shit happened! so next season there'll be no more cocoon? and doc venture and monarch will be on good terms? relatively?
my guess is that dr. girlfriend announced that she's going it alone. we know she wants to. remember the second promise she made the monarch make? that she's not #2 any longer?
my guess is that dr. girlfriend announced that she's going it alone. we know she wants to. remember the second promise she made the monarch make? that she's not #2 any longer?
- by Pirate Hippy
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She's to be the Monarch's partner, instead of number two. That doesn't sound like she is going it alone.
Also they blew up the cocoon before, and rebuilt it. Dean and the Order of the Triad survived, so the cocoon can't be too badly damaged. For that matter the X1 gets busted up a lot, but it's always good as new in the next episode.
Also they blew up the cocoon before, and rebuilt it. Dean and the Order of the Triad survived, so the cocoon can't be too badly damaged. For that matter the X1 gets busted up a lot, but it's always good as new in the next episode.
- by Dr. Feellove
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wow, that episode was awesome!
Although I have to say, I was a little disappointed with the Dean story that was really useless, but it was funny to see his weird fantasy.
Everytime I hear the Alchemist I can't help but think of Master Shake, lol, I guess Snyder should find another voice now.
And last but not least, what a cliffhanger! Exactly what I feared, but on the other hand, now I know there has got to be a season 3...
does anyone know when it will be ready?
btw, I fear it's the I'm [a man] answer, which I fear because to me she's got to be all woman, but I'm confident it's going to be I'm [pregnant], and I bet Phantom Limb will try to get some kind of custody rights over the kid.
And now that the Ventures got rid of the Monarch as an archenemy, will UnderBheit take a larger role? He first needs to find another kingdom to rule... perhaps some new characters?
Although I have to say, I was a little disappointed with the Dean story that was really useless, but it was funny to see his weird fantasy.
Everytime I hear the Alchemist I can't help but think of Master Shake, lol, I guess Snyder should find another voice now.
And last but not least, what a cliffhanger! Exactly what I feared, but on the other hand, now I know there has got to be a season 3...
does anyone know when it will be ready?
btw, I fear it's the I'm [a man] answer, which I fear because to me she's got to be all woman, but I'm confident it's going to be I'm [pregnant], and I bet Phantom Limb will try to get some kind of custody rights over the kid.
And now that the Ventures got rid of the Monarch as an archenemy, will UnderBheit take a larger role? He first needs to find another kingdom to rule... perhaps some new characters?
- by Orias
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Hmm... well, I don't think it could be "I'm a man!" or else someone would have noticed. "I'm a tranny!" maybe, but if she is that much a woman, she has to be post-op and would not consider herself a man. Unless perhaps, she's testosterone resistant like that supermodel brat in House. Then she could be XY but have developed as a woman.
- by Jen
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- by zer0hue
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With these past two episodes, it’s my belief that The Venture Bros. has transcended mere action/comedy and capably reside within the realm of high drama. There are so many stunning twists of fate and moments of unexpected revelation that it would silly to mention them all. However, as a singular product, this story marks a significant evolution in storytelling within the Venture universe. Should events permit and were this series tapped for a theatrical installment, I have full confidence that Jackson and Doc could deliver a work worthy enough to be considered great art.
- by Tony YTMND
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- by WorstServedCold
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A man named Shiela?
The theme of the Venture Bros universe seems to be you have your Christian name till you fall in a vat of glowing worms and have to find a catchy superhero title.
I had always assumed that if Dr. Girlfriend had ever been a man, a botched experiment caused the gender flip-er-roo. If she thinks of herself as Shiela, that suggests to me that was her original name.
An affront to science and God himself still could have caused the voice lowering, forever ruining her career in modeling and forcing her to take a darker path, but the name thing proves to me at least that it's not a man, baby.
The theme of the Venture Bros universe seems to be you have your Christian name till you fall in a vat of glowing worms and have to find a catchy superhero title.
I had always assumed that if Dr. Girlfriend had ever been a man, a botched experiment caused the gender flip-er-roo. If she thinks of herself as Shiela, that suggests to me that was her original name.
An affront to science and God himself still could have caused the voice lowering, forever ruining her career in modeling and forcing her to take a darker path, but the name thing proves to me at least that it's not a man, baby.
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- by Pirate Hippy
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Sheila is also Australian slang for a young woman or girl. I wouldn't try reading to much into her name.
It was always pretty obvious to me that the gag with Dr. Girlfriend was that she was a very feminine woman cursed with a deep voice, not that she was a "dude". A dude with a deep voice just isn't a good gag.
I don't understand this fascination people have with trying to see Dr. Girlfriend as male or "formerly male". A man with a deep voice - where's the gag in that?
It was always pretty obvious to me that the gag with Dr. Girlfriend was that she was a very feminine woman cursed with a deep voice, not that she was a "dude". A dude with a deep voice just isn't a good gag.
I don't understand this fascination people have with trying to see Dr. Girlfriend as male or "formerly male". A man with a deep voice - where's the gag in that?
- by Gumby
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Like I said, I don't think (nor do I want to believe) that she is/was a man, I just think that Brock's comment (in Hate Floats) "I'm still lookin' for scars on her."
is funny as Hell...
I'm sure that the Beautiful Woman with the husky/flemmy rumbling voice IS the gag but I'm just sayin'
is funny as Hell...
I'm sure that the Beautiful Woman with the husky/flemmy rumbling voice IS the gag but I'm just sayin'
- by Charlie
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- by cuavsfan
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Great episode... I think my favorite moments were the wings actually working (that was a shock) and the Labyrinth line...
An amazing season... I hope we hear about season 3 soon and (maybe even more importantly) I hope they get season 2 out on DVD ASAP... it'd be great if it made it out this holiday season...
As for the cliff-hanger: I'm pretty sure that Sheila can mean a gay man... I did a search and came up with "man who is weak, effeminate, lacking in bravado" which is close to that... Hopefully it will be something that none of us see coming though...
An amazing season... I hope we hear about season 3 soon and (maybe even more importantly) I hope they get season 2 out on DVD ASAP... it'd be great if it made it out this holiday season...
As for the cliff-hanger: I'm pretty sure that Sheila can mean a gay man... I did a search and came up with "man who is weak, effeminate, lacking in bravado" which is close to that... Hopefully it will be something that none of us see coming though...
- by carterman
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Save the .asx file from the Fix to your computer, open it up in Notepad, and the links to the files are there. I don't remember how I got the IP address links, though, but if you need more detailed instructions, fire me off an email: wondroushippo[at]gmail[dot]com
http://64.236.35.13/turner/gl/cartoon_net/adultswim/fridaynightfix/247/venturebros/xx_vb26_pt2_ASFIX.wmv
Save the .asx file from the Fix to your computer, open it up in Notepad, and the links to the files are there. I don't remember how I got the IP address links, though, but if you need more detailed instructions, fire me off an email: wondroushippo[at]gmail[dot]com
- by Retro
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WOW. Well this half wasn't as intense and cool as the first part, all together it makes for one amazing one-hour extravaganza.
Dr. Sheila Monarch. Or is it Dr. Sheila Wife? Monarch's comments at the end pretty much indicated that whether Henry Killinger said "You are now man and wife" or not, they're a married couple.
BOWIE is the Sovereign. Couldn't be any better than that. Which means that Molotov Cocktease has worked for the Guild, and the Sovereign has Roy Brisby's com-panda, Ling-Ling. A future Brock/Molotov/Bowie/Brisby episode? OH HELL YEAH!
Hank pulling his Russian act ... the Henchmen having working wing gadgets ... SWARM! ... and Brock's leadership were awesome.
Rusty wasn't as prominent but his moments were cool. He seemed like the whole thing was routine for him.
Dean putting on some magic ring that just made him experience a weird fantasy was awesome, and the Order of the Triad not being able to do more than save Dean from hurting himself was a great underplayed bit of comedy. The Alchemist found Hamilton G. Phantomnos's uh ... er ... invisible meat. Hahahaha.
I actually had a feeling Dr. Girlfriend would get knocked up.
It'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
Dr. Sheila Monarch. Or is it Dr. Sheila Wife? Monarch's comments at the end pretty much indicated that whether Henry Killinger said "You are now man and wife" or not, they're a married couple.
BOWIE is the Sovereign. Couldn't be any better than that. Which means that Molotov Cocktease has worked for the Guild, and the Sovereign has Roy Brisby's com-panda, Ling-Ling. A future Brock/Molotov/Bowie/Brisby episode? OH HELL YEAH!
Hank pulling his Russian act ... the Henchmen having working wing gadgets ... SWARM! ... and Brock's leadership were awesome.
Rusty wasn't as prominent but his moments were cool. He seemed like the whole thing was routine for him.
Dean putting on some magic ring that just made him experience a weird fantasy was awesome, and the Order of the Triad not being able to do more than save Dean from hurting himself was a great underplayed bit of comedy. The Alchemist found Hamilton G. Phantomnos's uh ... er ... invisible meat. Hahahaha.
I actually had a feeling Dr. Girlfriend would get knocked up.
It'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
- by zombiejesus
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i dunno if phantom limb's manpendage is what the alchemist found. pl still has a butt and hips and the tops of his thighs. i think it's just the inviso part of his leg (still, most of it). al's a little creepy. he probably knows some brew to keep it alive and supple while he rubs himself on it...
will pl get some glass pegleg? will he get a prosthetic - and have a fake leg and an unseen leg?
will pl get some glass pegleg? will he get a prosthetic - and have a fake leg and an unseen leg?
- by TheHumanStain
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Canyoning generally sports in which athletes fight or combat each other, usually one-on-one. Wally bought acreage but cane on cern in mend which kidnapped it elope on chastity be diurnal in general but boswell or wove, copperhead and fermium inside the whales singing.
How's that?
How's that?
- by VooDrackus
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I'm afraid I actually know what Dr. Girlfriend said since Doc let it slip in an interview recently... And it's not that she's a man. I don't want to ruin it for anyone else.... but if you are curious do a search for venture bros on a popular video hosting site. (hint, it's not google video) But he could have done that to make it even more mysterious.
Excellent end of the season. Loved the "One in a million comment"
Excellent end of the season. Loved the "One in a million comment"
- by Mike
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- by Pirate Hippy
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How many supervillians did you recognize at the wedding? I noticed "the Wild Fop" from that GCI video that was sent to Dr. Orpheus (ie the guy in the wig and makeup). Torrid was also at the wedding. Plus the guy with the electrical plug for a face was there, and the guy with the hologram over his head, and a few others I forget at the moment.
- by Pirate Hippy
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Also noticed the guy with the robotic arm who shows up at the yard sale and at the trial of the Monarch...and the little guy in the rat suit who was in the GCI video previously mentioned...and scuba guy with the fin on his head...the guy with the head shaped like a hammerhead shark...one of those guys dressed like a North Korean dictator....some wizard/gandalf type guy I've never noticed before....others....
- by Tony YTMND
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Here's a question:
Who the hell is Ken (or Kenneth) Plume?
He was credited after all the voice talents were credited as
"Special thanks to Ken Plume"
The only Google search results that came up was that he is some sort of reporter/blogger for IGN & other sites?
Well the only thing i know of what IGN and Venture Bros. has some relationship is that IGN.com had Venture Bros. summaries up months before they aired and anywhere else ... All I'm saying is this is weird?
Who the hell is Ken (or Kenneth) Plume?
He was credited after all the voice talents were credited as
"Special thanks to Ken Plume"
The only Google search results that came up was that he is some sort of reporter/blogger for IGN & other sites?
Well the only thing i know of what IGN and Venture Bros. has some relationship is that IGN.com had Venture Bros. summaries up months before they aired and anywhere else ... All I'm saying is this is weird?
- by Tony YTMND
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here's a guess, if the phantom limb really escaped and didn't die. (which i still assume hi sis survive, despite the evidence of his torn limbs.. also it was mentioned that he did escape by Bowie?) all the limbs that were ripped apart during the crash will be replaced with mechanical ones... he'll be none as....
Mechanical Limb?
Probably not.. he'll just capture Billy Quizboy and make him do something?
Mechanical Limb?
Probably not.. he'll just capture Billy Quizboy and make him do something?
- by Mr. Noy
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I'm still not sure what drove Dean to hallucinate but it was a clever way to bring back Pete, Billy, and Trianna and work in loads of pop culture references: GI Joe, The Neverending Story, Space Ghost (Monarch as Brak) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Rusty totally looks like Master Splinter) as well as the opening prophecy narration from David Lynch's Dune. I'm sure there was a lot more that I missed, although Dean's sword could be inspired by The Legend of Zelda or Disney's The Black Cauldron.
David Bowie produced Iggy and the Stooges classic Raw Power and later Iggy's first solo album The Idiot.
Iggy quotes from The Idiot, I Want to be Your Dog, Search and Destroy, and Gimme Danger.
Bowie quotes from his own Oh, You Pretty Things when he says "(gotta) make way for the homo superior"
I also like Klaus' "I wasn't in The Stooges."
And on a personal note, Iggy's smoking made me laugh because he bummed a cigarette off of me once.
David Bowie produced Iggy and the Stooges classic Raw Power and later Iggy's first solo album The Idiot.
Iggy quotes from The Idiot, I Want to be Your Dog, Search and Destroy, and Gimme Danger.
Bowie quotes from his own Oh, You Pretty Things when he says "(gotta) make way for the homo superior"
I also like Klaus' "I wasn't in The Stooges."
And on a personal note, Iggy's smoking made me laugh because he bummed a cigarette off of me once.
- by Mr. Noy
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- by Katharine
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A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then that it is the year 10,191. The known universe is ruled by the Padishaw emperor Shaddam IV, my father. In this time the most precious substance in the universe is the spice melange. The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The Spacing Guild and its navigators who the spice has . . . mutated over four thousand years use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space--that is, travel to any part of the universe without moving.
Oh yes, I forgot to tell you, the spice exists on only one planet in the entire universe, a desolate, dry planet with vast deserts. Hidden away within the rocks of these deserts are a people known as the Fremen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah, who would lead them to true freedom. The planet is Arrakis, also known as . . . Dune.
[cue Toto]
Yeah, the sad thing is most of that was from memory. Not quite as sad, I had it in iTunes for proofing, though I might have mispelled some things. . . . I can see how the prophecy in the ep kind of mirrors the second half of that, and the prologue as it appears in the movie, but--and it's been a while--isn't there something similar in "Never-ending Story"? (Or at least the child emperess or whatever she's called does look kind of similar to Princess Irulan in the Lynch movie.)
On a side note, the "Oh, You Pretty Things" "Make way for the homo superior!" quote was my favorite Sovereign!Bowie line.
Oh yes, I forgot to tell you, the spice exists on only one planet in the entire universe, a desolate, dry planet with vast deserts. Hidden away within the rocks of these deserts are a people known as the Fremen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah, who would lead them to true freedom. The planet is Arrakis, also known as . . . Dune.
[cue Toto]
Yeah, the sad thing is most of that was from memory. Not quite as sad, I had it in iTunes for proofing, though I might have mispelled some things. . . . I can see how the prophecy in the ep kind of mirrors the second half of that, and the prologue as it appears in the movie, but--and it's been a while--isn't there something similar in "Never-ending Story"? (Or at least the child emperess or whatever she's called does look kind of similar to Princess Irulan in the Lynch movie.)
On a side note, the "Oh, You Pretty Things" "Make way for the homo superior!" quote was my favorite Sovereign!Bowie line.
- by Mr. Noy
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- by Mr. Noy
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- by Aquezio
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I'm a BIG Stooges fan, so I was glad to see Iggy do more in this one, JP (CMcC) did a great job on Iggy's speaking voice. We didn't see him die, either, so he may be back in season 3, pushing Phantom Limb around in a wheelchair.
I loved the henchmen splatting on the guild wasp's windshield, and Brock using the dead body to blow a wasp's engine.
When are the fucking toys coming out, anyway? There's so many great characters that would make excellent figures, and cool vehicles, too.
This was probably mentioned in the comments for the part one, but what happened to the Monarch's Minotour tattoo? Henna?
My vote for the cliffhanger is "I'm a Republican."
I loved the henchmen splatting on the guild wasp's windshield, and Brock using the dead body to blow a wasp's engine.
When are the fucking toys coming out, anyway? There's so many great characters that would make excellent figures, and cool vehicles, too.
This was probably mentioned in the comments for the part one, but what happened to the Monarch's Minotour tattoo? Henna?
My vote for the cliffhanger is "I'm a Republican."
- by Charlie
- (unregistered id: BBF671B2D4)
"The one dressed like Taco; you get Spicoli!"
Wasn't Dean reading a Giant Boy Detective book earlier?
"An ASSLOAD of M-80s."
"How many of you are suicidal? Wow. Alot."
"Don't kid yourself there; you're a bit of a pussy."
"No clumpin' up like a JV soccer team."
"No; it's an urban myth."
Hank: "Again! Again, Again!"
"Your favorite quote here."
Classics, one and all.
Wasn't Dean reading a Giant Boy Detective book earlier?
"An ASSLOAD of M-80s."
"How many of you are suicidal? Wow. Alot."
"Don't kid yourself there; you're a bit of a pussy."
"No clumpin' up like a JV soccer team."
"No; it's an urban myth."
Hank: "Again! Again, Again!"
"Your favorite quote here."
Classics, one and all.
- by jwalrath
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- by Arpiby
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I'm not sure if Dean's fantasy sequence was really as big a dead end as everyone seems to think. He seemed to be taking quite a few issues out on the Monarch's engines, also represented in the character of The Lab Rat (and the fact that in Dean's fantasy his father is apparently dead, according to the Insect King).
"Run, orphans! Be free! And have your own room, and maybe not have to live in fear of costumed guys trying to kill you all the time! And there are no yetis freaking out on you, or, like, putting you on a rocket ship... run to a place where your father won't make you get in a fight with a venus flytrap, that walks... and... with a gun!"
Character development ahoy! Even more interesting is the fact that Hank doesn't seem to share Dean's disillusions about their crazy adventure-a-week lifestyle.
"Run, orphans! Be free! And have your own room, and maybe not have to live in fear of costumed guys trying to kill you all the time! And there are no yetis freaking out on you, or, like, putting you on a rocket ship... run to a place where your father won't make you get in a fight with a venus flytrap, that walks... and... with a gun!"
Character development ahoy! Even more interesting is the fact that Hank doesn't seem to share Dean's disillusions about their crazy adventure-a-week lifestyle.
- by Mr. Noy
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I agree with you that there was a lot of Dean issues in the dream sequence. That part worked for me. My only nitpick was that there didn't seem to be any rationale behind the hallucination.
If there were fumes or radiation in the engine room it would have effected the Henchman who was in there before.
The best explanation I can come up with is that the hallucination is some kind of coping mechanism Dean uses to deal with the fact that he is locked up and cut off from his family. Still, Dean's been in weirder scrapes before so why would being locked in an engine room, one he was only too keen to check out, cause him to retreat into crazy fantasy land?
It seemed like the hallucination was mostly an excuse for Dean to knock out the cocoon's engines at a critical moment in the narrative. That's only a small nitpick in what was otherwise a stellar episode.
If there were fumes or radiation in the engine room it would have effected the Henchman who was in there before.
The best explanation I can come up with is that the hallucination is some kind of coping mechanism Dean uses to deal with the fact that he is locked up and cut off from his family. Still, Dean's been in weirder scrapes before so why would being locked in an engine room, one he was only too keen to check out, cause him to retreat into crazy fantasy land?
It seemed like the hallucination was mostly an excuse for Dean to knock out the cocoon's engines at a critical moment in the narrative. That's only a small nitpick in what was otherwise a stellar episode.
- by Nate
- (unregistered id: 42240DA2E2)
My interpretation was that Dean was so scared he went into his fantasy world as part of a defense mechanism...after all, even the Monarch's "minions" seemed to be sacred of going into the engine room, imagine what it would do to poor Dean... at any rate the whole thing was pretty hilarious, my favorite part being when the Neverending Story dog-thing lands and says "I LOOOVE YOU!" I was rofling on that one.
- by markmarkmark
- (unregistered id: BE3B988C32)
i loved the neverending story thing, because right at the beginning, there was pretty much the defining quote from dean.
when he's on the wrist communicator and says "it's dean... dean venture."
i laughed more then at almost anything else, because they're super secret wrist communicators, that only four people, (five, if you count helper), have them, and 3 are literally related and one is closer then most... uncles or whatever.
he doesn't need to say his last name.
i dunno. i just loved that.
when he's on the wrist communicator and says "it's dean... dean venture."
i laughed more then at almost anything else, because they're super secret wrist communicators, that only four people, (five, if you count helper), have them, and 3 are literally related and one is closer then most... uncles or whatever.
he doesn't need to say his last name.
i dunno. i just loved that.
- by Pirate Hippy
- (unregistered id: D00F9D0C71)
Is it too early to start speculating about season three?
Here's some potential issues/topics/problems for season three:
Dr. Girlfriend, pregnant? How is married life working out? How will the Monarch spend his time now that he is not arching Dr. Venture?
Baron Underbheit - what is he up to? Scheming to return to power in Underland?
Phantom Limb - on the run from the Guild, possibly missing all his limbs - hiding somewhere, recuperating, planning his next move?
Jonas Jr. - is the thing with Sally Impossible permanent? Another wedding to attend coming up on The Venture's social calender?
Sigh. Season three can't come soon enough; I miss having no new VB episodes to look forward to any time soon.
Here's some potential issues/topics/problems for season three:
Dr. Girlfriend, pregnant? How is married life working out? How will the Monarch spend his time now that he is not arching Dr. Venture?
Baron Underbheit - what is he up to? Scheming to return to power in Underland?
Phantom Limb - on the run from the Guild, possibly missing all his limbs - hiding somewhere, recuperating, planning his next move?
Jonas Jr. - is the thing with Sally Impossible permanent? Another wedding to attend coming up on The Venture's social calender?
Sigh. Season three can't come soon enough; I miss having no new VB episodes to look forward to any time soon.
- by Roscoe
- (unregistered id: B073D4549F)
If you look at the begining of this episode when Brock is looking for Hank in the panic, Triana goes running by for just a split second..........I guess that answers my question of whether or not she ever got off of Orpheus Island, But now I want to know what the hell she was doing there. I mean, the Ventures and Brock wouldn't have even been there if the henchmen hadn't abducted them. Not that I'm complaining of corse.
- by emarche
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Best line in last night's episode goes to...
THE MONARCH! with:
"I'll get the one who looks like Taco!"
Hilarious. I don't think too many people under the age of 30 got that one.
I -love- the idea of Dr. G being pregnant with the Phantom Limb's child...even better if the baby is born invisible. Can you imagine an invisible baby freaking out inside the cocoon? Priceless Monarch moments ahoy!
THE MONARCH! with:
"I'll get the one who looks like Taco!"
Hilarious. I don't think too many people under the age of 30 got that one.
I -love- the idea of Dr. G being pregnant with the Phantom Limb's child...even better if the baby is born invisible. Can you imagine an invisible baby freaking out inside the cocoon? Priceless Monarch moments ahoy!
- by jwalrath
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- by jwalrath
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- by Spaceboy
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- by Joey Michaels
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I am glad you identified the James Bond movie. I recognized it as a Bond moment, but I couldn't recall which one.
It made me think that Dr. Girlfriend is going to say something like "I'm a secret agent" or "I'm a spy sent to keep an eye on you on behlf of the guild" or some such.
It made me think that Dr. Girlfriend is going to say something like "I'm a secret agent" or "I'm a spy sent to keep an eye on you on behlf of the guild" or some such.
- by carterman
- (unregistered id: 04B6617EBB)
Someone at the PRoV forums had a good idea...what if Dr. Girlfriend was trying to say something about the events of Trial of the Monarch, i.e., I'm the one who wrote the book, or I'm the one todl you the Ventures were the ones who put you in jail, or something about that? It makes perfect sense, and it's something that the series hasn't broached, for sure.
- by japanic
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i was thinking that the cliffhanger is that dr.girlfriend told the monarch that she slept with rusty in mid-life chrysalis, although she denied it, i wouldn't rule it out. In part one she did seem pretty shaken when she remembered that name 'charlene' and the rest of that scene
- by Drahken Kahn
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At first, I figured the cliffhanger was that Dr. Girlfriend (Dr. Wife?) WAS a man. Not any longer, though. It didn't even occur to me that she could have have been preggers until I went on the web. But now that that's on the table I had a thought. What if she had fraternal twins? One from Phantom Limb and one the Monarch? Or maybe one from Rusty? Hell, how about one from all three of them? I'd love to see that unholy mess dumbed on the Monarch and watch him try to deal with it.
- by Gumby
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I'm also a Mike Jittlov fan (I'm sure there are a few more) and I just didn't make that connection the first time but looking at it again; it has a vague "feeling" of WoST and while its possibly a nod I think its more likely a coincidence.
And as already stated, the Heart is soul-bot's
And as already stated, the Heart is soul-bot's
- by glenn fairman
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