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(Belated) "Arrears In Science" Discussion

(Belated)
Hello and apologies for being so late with this! I'm in a place with spotty internet and no cable so I haven't even had a chance to watch the episode myself yet. At any rate, here's your discussion thread for "Arrears In Science", the third episode of the Morphic Trilogy! There will be spoilers in the comments so beware! Have fun, kids!

For US viewers, you can watch the episode online.
Anyone else thinking with OSI wanting to take Jonas' head to study and "stuff", and since they already took all of the cloning tanks/research...will we be seeing a Jonas clone by the end of the season?
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Yea, seems like too much of a loose end to not get a follow up @ some point.
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Memo: Clones do not inherit the memories of the original. So a cloned Jonas might be a genius but woulldn't know anything about what Jonas had invented ni his first life.

Also, clones grow as a normal rate so a cloned Jonas wouldn't be ready for 20 years.
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There’s nothing stating the OSI may have messed around with all the cloning tech they took from the Venture compound and developed it to the point of clones aging faster then real time. We haven’t seen what they’ve done with the information since they confiscated it.

And they have Jonas’ brains. Who knows what they’re able to do with it(especially now that they also have parts of Venturion/Vendata)
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My thinking as well. Jonas' old cloning technology was decades out of date, and I'm betting that Dr. Vulcano is a bit more competent than Rusty was at this cloning racket. Jonas even stated that his plan was for Billy to put his brain into Vandata's body until he and Doc could get the cloning tech going again. I doubt he was planning to wait for a new body to age 20 years or so.
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  • by Frank9
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Well the agreement was to disassemble Vendata. The OSI is going to want to debrief Jonas on many things including PROBLEM and Movie Night. I have a feeling in some future season we may see Jonas get exactly what he wants. His Brain in Vendata's Body.
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The closing scene clearly indicates that Rusty has what remains of Jonas's head. I'm not sure he will turn it over to OSI. Also I think that this time Jonas's head is really dead. Previously it had been frozen so it hadn't decayed before being hooked up to the PROBLEM machine. This time it looks like all the life-support machines was destroyed and the brain wasn't transplanted anywhere. Maybe Rusty gave OSI the Vendata brain instead of Jonas thinking no one would notice the difference.
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Well in that line of thinking, take the Blue Morpho. He was technically dead for a good few weeks to months before Jonas turned him into Venturion. And while he didn’t have his memories at first, this last episode showed he still retained a lot of his memories.

And like the cloning tech, don’t think there’s anything Rusty can do to prevent the OSI from getting what they want.
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I thought the first two parts of this trilogy were pretty ordinary but the finale really blew me away. A lot of revealed history. Most of the revelations were pretty much what we expected -- Jonas was Monarch's real father, making him Rusty's half-brother. Blue Morpho was cyborgized into Vendata. And they both die (again) in the end because this series is not about the past but how people deal with the past.
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  • by Eartha Kite & Dismalicious Winds from Provo
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Anyone got a bead on the 3 bad guys who stole super cool robot guy? Scary Nilsson, Dr Z and....
So Hatebit is probably still around right? I see a sorta same looking guy show up in old eps.


Glad you're on twitter Mantis Eye. Not sure if the Atlantic Council is running the show over there yet.
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Yes Shrill Spector was the other in that scene. Over the moon that Jackson worked in Nilsson! Also one Fredric Mercury is in the diner flash back..
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  • by Eartha Kite & Dismalicious Winds from Provo
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SHRILL SPECTOR!!!! Ha!!!
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  • by Destroyo
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The robot has a switch like the evil Krusty doll. Also note the magazine's back cover ad from the the diner scene.
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This episode was filled with sheer kick-ass awesomeness from end to end. I must say though that my favorite scene was the 80's flashback with Red Death sporting a Mohawk chilling with his cohorts in the diner. I loved Stab Girl and Laugh Riot but could care less about Mr. Fahrenheit (Edit: Okay. Someone on the VB wiki pointed out he's based on Freddie Mercury, so now I like him). And we got to learn Hate-Bit's name. Too bad a few of them won't be back, unless maybe in an earlier flashback.

Anyway, the scene reminded me of my days during that same time period as a line cook at a restaurant. We'd close at midnight on Fri. and Sat. and got out about 1:00 AM. A few friends and I would meet up at a nearby diner that was open 'til 3:00 and you could order from the breakfast or dinner menu. We'd all grab a bite to eat and just hang. Except my cohorts weren't supervillains, that I know of anyway.
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I love that Red Death outfit. It's very Ghost Rider. Also, Laugh Riot's costume is clearly based on The Comedian from The Watchmen.
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Two years, seventeen days.
What?
From a stroke...good day!
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1766 miles from Newark NJ is somewhere close to Denver CO. which is 1623 miles from NJ.
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Colorado Springs specifically.
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You just wouldn't have thought that so little time has passed between season one and now. So much has happened, so much has changed. We got the first hint when Dean said the Problem light was blinking just a couple years ago, but so many trips through the old mind washer have made the boys a little Sagittarius. I had just begun to assume that Dr. O was either flat out wrong with his prediction or was actually referring to Rodney's wife, Jeannie, dying. I wonder if Doc and JP intended it this way or realized, "Oh, crap. We totally forgot about that!", after reading fan comments? Either way, I'm pulling for the big guy to make a recovery.
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It's hilarious considering the show has been around for like 14 years but Hank and Dead had their sixteenth birthday a few years back (or at least that's how old those clones were) and next episode Dean is going to college, which is something an 18 year old would do, so... yeah I guess it's only been two years? I think the entirety of season six takes place over a couple of weeks or something? Timelines are weird.

Also Orpheus could easily handwave it away by saying these things are never precise but I prefer to believe otherwise.
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Hank and Dean were home schooled so there's no guarantee that they got their GED's at 18. They could be any age just entering college.
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As of S2 E2, the clones were 16 years-old. However, their slightly singed driver's licences (laminating accident!) stated that they were 18, meaning the clone slugs were about 2 years younger than the original Hank and Dean. If 2 years, 17 days have gone by since Dr. O's prediction of The Action Man's stroke in season 1's Past Tense then the boys are about 18 now.
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  • by Frank9
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TOAST!
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  • by Aaaanon
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The major thing clarified by the episode is that Rusty's dad is/was a real d****. Loved the oops, dropping and breaking of Jonas by his crew. Couldn't have happened to a nicer (mostly) dead guy.
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I loved how Team Venture was like, "Yup. That's exactly how it happened. Uh-huh", when Doc asked if they just found his head floating in space. Especially as it was Rusty's fault.
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New Geographical Data!
Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, I-285, I-25, and now 1766 miles from Newark.

They weren't just in Colorado, they were in the Denver area!

(Google puts a road trip via I-80 from Newark to Denver at 1769 miles!)

edit: Ron Bonham beat me to it while I was fact checking. Well done!
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Even more there's a picture of Cremation Creek in Mr. Fitzcarralo's study!
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Colorado Springs, home of NORAD
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Lots of good Dr Z callback stuff too:

When Dr.Z is recounting the genesis of Vendata, he is shown riding that drill tank thing from "What Goes Down Must Come Up" (behind an army of H.E.L.P.eR's)

"I need you to seduce Dr. Z" ref to "A Party for Tarzan"

My favorite: He mentions that some "bungler dropped dime", referring to one of his henchmen in classic Z uniform, as last seen in the "How to Spot a Blunderer" video Augustus St. Cloud was watching in "What Color is Your Cleansuit".
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I thought it might be the same henchman (Zenchman?) too, but I rewatched both scenes and Dr. Z has much less hair and looked older in the training film indicating it was made at a later time. And alas, the bungler's tunic was not untucked. That would have been hilarious had it been the same guy though.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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I actually didn't enjoy this episode as much as the last two, but my only reason for that is that it contained very few surprises. Pretty much everything we learned this episode we'd already figured out quite a while back. That said, I still loved it. The one thing that really shocked me was that Jonas was blackmailing BM...just when I thought he couldn't sink much lower, the guy goes and surprises me again.

Kudos to Jackson and Doc for sticking to their guns and not changing the Vendata reveal just to throw those of us who'd figured it out, though. George R R Martin makes a point of not changing the plans he's painstakingly foreshadowed just to shock his readers and I was worried, based on some things I'd read, that JP and DH were going to do the same regarding Vendata. As a result this episode didn't surprise me the way I would have loved it to have done but I think from an overall narrative sense they made the right decision.

Some thoughts:

1. Vendata sincerely believed the Movie Night Massacre wasn't his doing and I believe him. It looked in the diner like he planned it to get revenge on Jonas...but remember at that point he had no memory of his former existences.

2. Looks like the only Guild survivors of that mission were Red Death (because he kept his helmet on), Hate-Bit and Vendata (presumably because vacuum can't harm them) as they were the only people being given a reprieve by The Sovereign.

3. We still need to learn what caused the crash that killed BM and his wife and orphaned the Monarch. We also know nothing about young Malcolm's relationship with young Rusty (apart from 'you were never there for me'), or why Rusty doesn't seem to remember it.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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Jonas seemed oddly unfazed by Vendata's plan to expose him. I wondee if that's because the massacre was somehow actually his own doing but it backfired, leading to Jonas's 'death'?

And was the cowboy in PROBLEM a continuity error?Rusty found it melted around the circuitry, whereas it fell out onto the floor in the flashback.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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Oh, and what the heck was going on with that flashback to an overweight, blemished Morpho buying a suit from Enzo?
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Blue Morpho was experiencing an anaphylactic reaction to the bee-themed villain, thus the anaphylaxis variant of the suit.

No continuity error, as the flashback to the toy here precedes Rusty's discovery of it melted.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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But it ended the flashback on the floor, whereas Rusty found it amongst the wiring back in episode 2.
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Things on floors get kicked around.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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Of course, I saw the XL size on the door but failed to put two and two together.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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Suit, not door. Damn predictive phone.
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Rusty may have lost more than one cowboy.
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This was my assumption. Rusty was on site of the build for many hours, the likelihood he lost many toys is high.
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Watch the beginning of Careers in Science again, Rusty had two cowboys
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  • by gnormie
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I think in Careers in science we see Rusty playing with two cowboy toys. One with a white shirt and a gun. The other with a brown shirt and a lasso.

The one with the brown shirt melted on Gargantua 1 and wasn't in the PROBLEM unit. The other one with the white shirt is the one that fell out of the problem unit that Team Venture tripped on.

Now that's continuity!
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Wasn't there an episode where some password was "Rusty is a cowboy"?
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Buddy System or Tears of a Seacow, S3 for sure..
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Yes! Dean trying to deactivate H.E.L.P.eR.'s audio in Tears of a Sea Cow.
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  • by Aaaanon
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And did I again see those Playa's Jonas and Blue M double dating Jill St. John and Stella Stevens?
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I think it was more like just doing them, not actually dating them. BM was married.
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  • by Captain V
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Here we go:

- Only a super run away, Dean? Jonas Sr. is already trying to pull an Ultimate Fucking Run Away... with the entire building.

- The explanation for a back-up BM suit being the XL variant had a pretty awesome backstory.

- Phone book joke is great, makes sense b/c the recently deceased Jonas Jr. would still be listed.

- The morse code joke is fucking genius. Retroactively makes so much more sense and (yet again) deepens the entire series upon rewatching.

- If your name is Jonas Venture... and you build a space station... you die on it.

- Dr. Z had sex with BM... meaning he unknowingly had sex with his own re-creation, Vendata.

- Jonas Sr. may actually be the main antagonist of the entire series, in many, many ways.
More on that later.

- Blue Morpho dies quite a bit, only to be reborn and die again, and again. Arguably, he is one of the most tragic figures in the series.

- Kano killing his former master was genius, now we know who he killed and fell silent afterwards.

- Jonas is very likely Rusty and Malcom's father. However, Malcom's mother could even be Rusty's mother, meaning they are full on brothers. We don't know what Jonas did. He could of just used his sperm to impregnate her. He may have just had sex with her. But... he could've even taken her eggs to make Rusty. Anything is possible.

- Jonas just being a head is fully explained. Of course he got dropped when frozen, so obvious now.

- PROBLEM was evidently built in case someone, mainly Jonas, had an accident while working in space on Gargantua.

- The shrink ray will always return... when you least expect it.

- Team Venture actually had morals. Especially when seeing their old friend rebuilt as a robot. Something Jonas Sr. didn't care for. As Rusty puts it, it's just the Venture way. You don't cry, you rebuild him.

- The quick shot of the Helper army was hilarious.

- Brock's entire life is a lie. Great bit of information and lore. Plus, it's always fun to see Brock taken aback.

- Jonas Sr. quickly mentions putting his brain into BM and then getting the cloning program up and running.

- I wouldn't be shocked if BM's plane crashing wasn't an accident. Jonas could be behind it. I have crazy theories on it.

- Full name reveal: Malcom Fitzcarraldo.

(part one of two)
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  • by Captain V
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- Venture Bros. always come in sets of three.
Dean / Der. / Hank. | Mal. / Rusty / J.J.

- The Monarch "double" kills both of his fathers.. since they had both died before. Fucking awesome.

- Kano killing BM could be foreshadowing Gary having to make a similar choice with Malcom... eventually. Especially, since they became the NEW BM and Kano temporarily.
History may repeat itself. We'll probably know by season... twelve... in 2031.

- Jonas built Venturion with an EVIL switch. It's just a joke. But really let the implications sink in. Just another clue Jonas Sr. is a villain... or the ultimate dickbag.

- The timeline is nuts. We know it was early October in season six b/c we see the date October 7th later on in the season. But now it's late November. Jackson said it's only been a few days total at SDCC. Only four months since the end of season five.
I'm confused. The boys have to be 19. They celebrated last Halloween at the beginning of season five.

- Speaking of timeline. HOLY FUCK. Their is sooooooo much going on in this one, soo much decade hopping, surely there are holes in the Venture timeline now.

- Dean's little speech to help Hank is a callback to the season five when Hank helped Dean with coming to terms with being a clone.

- Hank probably has ADHD, not just ADD as Dean suggests.

- Shocking Warriana (spelling) or other heroes don't show up when the building rocks around the block.

- Jonas hanging the tape over BM's head to get him to do shit favors is just... pure evil.

- Red Death could've easily saved AM by flying through the window hole. But he was busy at the dinner when AM needed him.

- AM finally has his stroke and of course Orpheus is present for it.

- Odd Billy thought it was a heart attack when AM just screamed "TOAST!" loudly.
The most well-known sign of stroke victims is smelling burnt toast.

- Who actually pulled that lever and killed Jonas Sr. the first time? BM denies it was him, Red Death was one of the other survivors. But I actually think it was Bud Manstrong as a boy or some crazy shit. Like, the paper boy on Gargantua or something.

- This won't be the last of Jonas. That heads got legs.

- The Monarch and Rusty will probably realize they are bros. in the S7 finale.

- Blue bastard! Don't ruin this for me!!!

- The Thanksgiving float accident is a reference to real life events.

- Final beat of the episode is definitely the final beat of season six proper.

Wow. My new favorite episode. Go Team... Shit is Fucked Up.

(part 2 of 2)
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Manstrong was the paperboy. Look at the name tag. He also told the boys he had been a paperboy in Careers in Science. And, yes, he is on my list of suspects. Perhaps some other boy was getting a little too friendly with a young Anna and happened to be attending movie night. Wait, it's rated R, but Jonas probably didn't care.
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  • by Captain V
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I just wrote it really confusing and shitty.
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My new crack theory is Manstrong is Scarebear/Murderbear. His "ghost story" in Careers in Science is sociopathic in hindsight. "RIGHT DOCTOR VENTURE? THE NIGHT YOUR DAD DIED??"
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In the Go Team Venture! book JP mentions Scare Bear had a scene with dialog and a happy ending for him in a previous episode, but they had to cut it, so who knows. I like 'Murder Bear' better, but it's his creation.

I had accidentally stumbled on the source material for the character while browsing the London Times website and now JP confirmed it in the book that it was indeed the source.
http://www.artnet.com/artists/mark-wallinger/sleeper-pvnaFFBhsFpFFm4whZMhmA2

Anyway, he was in the trailer so we'll be seeing him soon!
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'Great book'

In a 21 voice...
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The timeline is indeed nuts. I'm doing my damndest to make it all jive, but the damned crash of the TVC-15 is throwing everything off.
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As I have it figured, season 1 takes place in 2007, seasons 2-4 in 2008, season five begins at the end of 2008, and seasons 6 and 7 (so far) go through November 2009.
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  • by ChebGhobbi
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The timeline is fluid - Cleansuit takes place after Game of Thrones started to air but only a couple of years after the most recent clones were activated (as they are still under 18). However, the boys' last death took place around the time Wonderboy III died, which was in the early 2010s if memory serves (as there's a date on the memorial in Handsome Ransom - I think he lived from 1996 to 2012 but that could be wrong). Also Action Man's stroke puts the latest episode just over two years after Past Tense.

Basically, the entire stretch of the show takes place in the space of about three years at most, but every season is also set in the year it airs. The timeline for the flashbacks doesn't appear to have moved.
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All right, I present the rough draft of my reworked Venture Timeline!! I seem to have to rework it every season...

http://imgur.com/gallery/78osyCM
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The DOD for Jonas should be 87 not 86. And not sure if Rusty would have had Hank and Dean in 87..
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It would have had to have been while Rusty was still in college (Past Tense). 86 is as generous as I can make it.

And Hank and Dean were definitely alive during g the Pyramid Wars of 87 (The Invisible Hand of Fate).
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The date was on the screen of BM's terminator vision. Arrears in Science - 3:26. The date in the top right corner reads 04/09/1987.
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I thought that a lot of the story was a private electronic communications between BM and Jonas. So I'm not sure how much of any of the revelations we saw was shared by the people trapped in the building.
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  • by Bogus
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good/evil switch was added by dr. z

when he first "opens" venturion's head, the switch is not there
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  • by gnormie
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I know this is really perverted but I think Bud Manstrong's masturbation affliction from season 2's "Guess Who's Coming To State Dinner" is the reason everyone on Gargantua 1 was jettisoned into space.

Nothing on this show is a throw away joke (I'm half kidding)
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I thought of Manstrong pulling the lever as well. Maybe he stumbled upon that video Vendata had of Jonas & BM and had another dissociative episode like he had when Gargantua 1 crashed. Might not even remember doing it.

Follow-up: How did Vendata get that compromising video in the first place? Its not visible in the dumpster where Dr. Z found him. Maybe someone else had a bigger plan in motion...
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  • by Frank9
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He made the original recording. (Tanks For Nuthin) Jonas probably had a copy.
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  • by Destroyo
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Another running joke: All of Dr Z's drinking pals were in the music industry, further going with the Sovereign's Guild being all 70s rock stars. Also, Shrill Spector's weapon refs "the wall of sound".
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And the club they got kicked out of, Whiskey a No Go is clearly the legendary Whiskey a Go Go in West Hollywood, CA where many up and coming young talents played.
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Marquee has; the Germs, Blondie & the Runaways!! Also has a large Ramones post and a large billboard that is an ad for "Near Encounters of the Other Kind" & "We Are Almost Alone".
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And just down the street is a billboard for "Killer Whale" which is a take on the movie Orca, which also came out in '77. You can also see the OSI surveillance van parked next to the club and the Hale Brothers' convertible drives by in the opening shot of the flashback, but that's probably just them reusing animation models like they do with background people, which is why we see Skye all over the place.
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Damn, that way driving me nuts...so obvious now that I see the spelling.
I kept having Siouxsie and the Banshees (a Shrill Spectre is obviously a banshee to me) stuff rattling around in my head.
Now that I think about it, they seem to avoid punk and post-punk stuff somehow.
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  • by Crandom77
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They should have left the float flipping the bird, would have been appropriate.
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  • by Aaaanon
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Still confused that a throwback Rusty V float was "new" this year. Also, the underdog (or knockoff underdog) float was retired years and years ago. And, I can't believe they didn't jump on a "oh the humanity" comment when the float got away.
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In my digging, I googled "Fitzcarraldo" just to see what would come up. The first thing you get is an old East German feature film (which is esoteric enough to scratch the itch), but if you dig a little more, you'll find that The Fitzcarraldo is also the name of a ship (which was perhaps named after the film.) It's more likely a reference to the ship than the film, because look at it. It's a dead ringer for Shore Leave and Sky Pilot's boat in "The Family that Slays Together Stays Together Part 1.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_the_Plank_(theatre_company)
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"Boom! Yummy!"
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I'd like to give Jackson and Doc a LOT of credit for revealing / confirming / tying-up many backstory threads. Many of the long-time Venture fanboys (us) already widely believed many of the things revealed (not all) to be the case for many years (ranging between almost-confirmed and speculative-but-probable), but the casual viewer needs these underlying threads brought to the forefront to understand the world in which these characters live. Now us die-hards and casual viewers are on mostly even ground; lets pick up on other embedded subplots to speculate over.

Someone posted somewhere that they thought this had a series finale feel due to all the revelations, but I think they couldn't be more wrong. This gives the characters a chance to deal with their history as it becomes known to them; ending the series on something like this would be very anti-climatic. It's far more interesting to see how the revelations affect the characters as their stories continue to move forward in a typical Venture Bros. universe way. This gives the creators a lot of freedom to tell a lot more interesting stories of these characters and allow new story arcs (and sub-plots) to be told.

Season 7 is off to a great start! What's next? I can't wait to see!
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  • by kgullholmen
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It did feel like a finale: the one we never got for season 6. This is it. And the extra waiting time paid of big time!

This was huge. They laid out the plot quite some time ago (season 5ish?) and they followed through with it. Well done. This was an amazing hour of Venture Bros, maybe even the best, even with Brock on the sideline.
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1 month ago
Clearly it was the Moppetts that opened the bay doors!!
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1 month ago
  • by Captain V
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Or it's the tinfoil hat guy!
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1 month ago
Am I off base in thinking the diner in this eposode (Starstruck Diner) is a nod to the Tick Tock diner at the New Yorker Hotel in NYC?
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Oh yeah, has the same unique walls!!
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1 month ago
I've been going nuts trying to pin this down, and I have to say this looks the closest I've seen so far. I'd say you found the source, or it's at least partly based on this place.

To show how OCD I was I took some screengrabs from the flashback scene, and in one shot looking over Red Death's shoulder, you can see street signs on a pole outside the window on the left. The sign facing left says W 128th St. and the one on the right (perpendicular to the street they're on) says 10th St. I went on Google Earth and found the intersection. At first, I saw nothing that looked like a diner, but then noticed on one street corner was one of those fences they put up when doing construction or demolition. I went to street view and you can see that a small building had been torn down and could even see where it has been connected to the larger building next door. If there were a diner there, and you were sitting in the same booth the street signs would appear exactly as they were in the flashback.

I'm not really familiar with NYC, so I wonder what had stood there? Any straphangers out there?
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1 month ago
Extra easter egg: they have the disco fries (whatever they are) from "Return to Spider Skull Island"!
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25 days ago
So was it really just a "coincidence" that Team Venture was late for movie night? Just throwin' that out there.
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1 month ago
Episode four is online:
http://www.adultswim.com/videos/the-venture-bros/the-high-cost-of-loathing/

And does The Monarch arch Dr. Venture because he stole his toy truck as a child?
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29 days ago
Doc and JP are just determined to make us re-update half the Venture Bros. wiki.

Think Tank
Status: Not Dead
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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They said he was in a coma in the commentary tracks for S6.
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29 days ago
I guess I should start listening to those again. I stopped listening in the early seasons because they didn't really know how those worked back then and would talk about all sorts of random subjects. Also, they've been known to fib or change their minds from time to time so I personally only consider what I see on the screen to be canon.
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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The toy represents everything that was stolen from young Malcom.
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Bonus thoughts:

- Would VHS tapes get demagnetized in space?

- As many have already suggested. Did a young Manstrong find the sex tape, put it in one of the many VHS players visible, blackout when he saw nudity, and then fall on the hanger bay lever?

- The stroke dates exactly how much time has passed since season one, as long as Orpheus got the day right. And it seems he did.

- So... the boys are definitely 18 then.

- This episode pulled in around a 0.61 in cable ratings. Keep in mind online early release. The numbers are a little low, but decent in the new digital ad revenue era.

- Look at the closely at dates... Dr. Z in 77 creating Vendata / but Venturion was created in 78 according to his HUD. What??? Maybe I'm confused?

- Wikipedia says Malcom's dad is Don. I hear the word "darling"spoken, not Don. Unless, I'm wrong and someone else says Don somewhere in the episode.

- Escalator error. They eventually come up the same one they all ran down originally, towards the end of the episode. Well, Dean didn't use that escalator... you get what I mean.

- Killer Whale billboard is a parody of Jaws.

- The toy truck represents everything stolen from Malcom. His family, his heritage, the truth, his real last name... Venture.

- The ridiculous vacuum Rusty invented returns briefly to smash a glass case.

- They should reproduce and sell the fucking shrink guy. Billions.

- Dr. Mrs. may be the one to put everything together b/c she knows the most about it from Red Death and knowing Vendata was Malcom's father, in regards to Rusty and Malcom's relationship is deeper. She also knows of the photo.

- Malcom accidentally got overdue revenge for BM by helping to kill Jonas.

- Monarch probably hates Rusty for stealing from him as kids. Thus, the toy again comes up.

- Jonas likely got Mrs. F drunk and had sex with her. Maybe BM thinks he just was a sperm donor. But Jonas actually fucked her. Anyway, he made a sex tape with Mrs. F and told her that if he couldn't deliver the baby, he'd show everyone the tape if she didn't keep quiet and comply. Anyway, she has twins. Jonas deliverys them and takes one. Boom, Malcom and Rusty are really twin brothers. Who really knows... ya know?

- Jonas then sabotaged and crashed the plane b/c Mrs. F was gonna reveal all to BM.

- Thus, the Monarch deserves to hate Rusty and the Venture name more than anyone... ever.
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Corrections:

"the fucking shrink guy. Billions." / edit: I meant GUN not guy. Venture should sell the damn thing.

"Jonas deliverys them and" / edit: I meant to type delivers not delivery.
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29 days ago
Venturion was created in 1976. - "He's the Bicentennial Man!"
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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You are correct. It's definitely 1976 in the corner of his HUD.
I thought it accidentally said 1978, as in a small typo error.
But it was in fact totally my own error.
The numbers 6 and 8 are pretty similar looking. You can see how I did that.
I'll just say my eyes must be getting bad. LOL.
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27 days ago
  • by Captain V
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The new episode "High Cost" mainly went for the big laughs and was just trying to be a really fun excursion.

And I (we all) anticipated this would be the case after last weeks episode.

The joke with Helper at the front desk... definitely a series highlight.
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29 days ago
The Helper joke, one particular Monarch line, and the smash cut to the credits got some huge laughs from me.
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29 days ago
Episode 4 is up! Change of pace from the Morphic Trilogy obviously. IT'S A GOODUN THOUGH
http://www.adultswim.com/videos/the-venture-bros/the-high-cost-of-loathing/
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29 days ago
With Harvey Birdman, aka Gary Cole!
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29 days ago
  • by Captain V
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Biiiirrrrrrddddddddmmmmmaaaaannnnnn!!!

Ah, the SGC2C Birdman was great too.
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26 days ago
  • by Captain V
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I wonder if this will be the best episode of the season? Only time will tell.

Anyway, the S7 finale... I bet it'll be epic like this one was... just in a different way.
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26 days ago
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