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Discussion: The Silent Partners

Hey there, Ventureroos, it's what I can only assume is your favorite time of the week again, brand new Venture Bros.! This week's episode is "The Silent Partners" and also happens to be the penultimate episode of season four and the last new episode until November 21st. So it had better be good! As always use the comments to talk about the episode, but be warned if you haven't seen it yet: the comments will contain spoilers. Have fun!

Also if you're bored feel free to vote in the second to last round of Heroes & Scientists or enter to win a season three DVD. You know, no big whoop. Whenever.
  • by IforgotMyPants.
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Go Team Venture!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:26pm
  • by Doctor X
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I must write that this series has been worth the wait. There has not been a weak episode. While I am sure there are favorites, they have all been entertaining.

This is another fantastic episode! Kudos!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:48am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, King Gorilla!!!!!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:32pm
  • by Dr. Wife
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Did Monstroso kill him? Will this lead to Operation PROM?
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:39pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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The investors did.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:42pm
  • by Mogo
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Yeah it was one of those win win things, the investors give king a quick and painless death by taking his heart and monstroso get's both the sergeon and the heart he needs.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:06am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, but who do you think gave him cancer and Monstroso a bad heart?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:10am
  • by Hardy
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Killinger
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:14am
  • by Mogo
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Actually as established by the monarchs uninnteionally unfunny gift, king already had cancer. And monstroso's bad heart probably came from a combination of size and possibly his epic showdown with brock and 21
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:23am
  • by Pyroth
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Which we haven't seen...
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:38am
  • by Hardy
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I guess I should clarify that I was joking.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:53am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Maybe, but what I'm getting at is maybe Monstroso and KG made deals with the devil and their health issues are ironic fate results. Like, KG got out of his life sentence but at the cost of getting out of life and Monstroso got great power but a body that can't support it. I think maybe the investors are working for a lower power if you know what I mean, and that's why they're magic.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:01pm
  • by Mogo
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I would like to add something to this:
*King probably did that but it's a double whammy: He probably did get out of guild trouble with the investors help, BUT they made it so he would get cancer. That way he would be forced to spend the rest of his money on a quick death.
*As for Monstroso he probably used his funds to help the investors in exchange for power. But knowing his double crossing nature, they used heart troubles to keep him in their employ to use his special tempting talkents
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:39pm
  • by beb
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KG got cancer from smoking all the time. As Ab Fab reminds us, "Smoking kills -- just not reliably.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:45pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I never saw him smoking though. It makes too much sense for this show.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 2:58pm
  • by beb
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Remember back in the first season when The Monarch was giving his Scared Straight speech and sold Dean to King Gorilla for some cigarettes? And in the opener for this season The Monarch made a faux pas by giving KG a cartoon of cigarettes for his welcome home party? The assumption has to be that KG smokes but there was never time to actually show him smoking.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 1:46pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Cigarettes are currency in prison.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 1:49pm
  • by Rob
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That and photos of Macaulay Culkin,
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Oct. 31, 2010, 7:53am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Not to get into this too far but, huh?!
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Oct. 31, 2010, 1:24pm
  • by Rob
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Watch 'Powerless in the Face of Death', and all will become clear.
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Nov. 2, 2010, 4:58pm
  • by Tony
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God, you think with all that money the could have bought a new TV
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:34pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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SPHINX!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:34pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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This ... is too creepy.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:36pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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Please let my Quiz-boy come out of this one ok.....I have to wait until...to find out.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:39pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I thought that sounded familiar.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:41pm
  • by ANDY
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I HATE COMMERCIALS!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:44pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Hey, did I just miss it or was there not an opening splash?
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:45pm
  • by Hemlock
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There was, right after King Gorilla's heart was removed.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:07am
  • by Katie
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RoboBo.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:47pm
  • by GambitRF
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I loved Hunter's "Sweet LORD, what the hell is that?!"
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:59pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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And what year is that from, 1985? I'm surprised he wouldn't spring for a better robot.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:00am
  • by Mogo
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I loved the RoboBo. In a world of super science you know they'd still have that skymall, sharper image sort of stuff. You know just up graded with stuff like robot duke boys, jetpacks and your own dinosaur.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:08am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I liked it too. I just thought they'd get a better robot with 10 million dollars.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:13am
  • by Mogo
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Since when has Pete thought with logic?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:40pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Well, it's not a matter of logic, it's a matter of what looks cool.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:57pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Go Billy!
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:49pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Ok, I get it. Monstroso's got that Andre the Giant thing.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:52pm
  • by Katie
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White's a Star F***er
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:53pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I disagree. He's an ass but he cares about Billy.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:57pm
  • by Katie
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Oh, I agree with you I know he cares about Billy. I mean they are clearly best friends. I just thought it was funny.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:01am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I actually think White's right. They're not best friends- they're more like counterparts.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:15am
  • by Katie
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Agreed there.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:23am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I mean this literally- if they made a Venture Bros. Star Wars Special, White would be C-3PO and Billy would be R2-D2.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 4:14pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I agree with your disagreement. The invisible hand of fate draws these two together and while they have their spats (which IMO frankly your best friends are the ones you can argue honestly with), they're gonna stick things out together. I think White cares a lot more than he lets on (because it's Billy and the nature of being with Billy is that you're made fun of and White's vain like that).

I'm interested in seeing whether Billy actually DOES have legal papers now or if it's just a more legal-LOOKING ruse courtesy of Monstroso (fridge logic: why would Montrsoso care whether the doctor performing his surgery is licensed or not).
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:10am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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He is the king of the double-cross.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:17am
  • by Johnny Israel
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He didn't care if the doctor was licensed or not...he did that for Billy in return for doing the surgery.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:28am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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But he could have bought a licensed surgeon, so why did he need Billy?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:30am
  • by Johnny Israel
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Billy took money from the Investors...the Investors were in league with Monstroso. The Investors tried to get others to deal with them as noted by SPHINX, and failed. Only Billy and White signed with them. So the Investors came to collect. Least thats what I took from it.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:38am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh, that makes sense.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:39am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Well, nobody else survived the Investors' gift but .
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:08am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Point taken.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:09am
  • by Jory
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Also, Billy's "one of the best."
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:28am
  • by beb
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Because legal or not, Billy is the best.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:47pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I'll give Mostroso that. I would assume Billy's usual payment for performing illegal surgeries on supervillains was that they wouldn't kill him afterward.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:51am
  • by Doctor X
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Good point.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:50am
  • by Alvin
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billy would be the 2nd best sergon in the venture world next to that guy that took helpers head out of brocks chest. Monstroso knows this so he would go with a guy that has more integrity and skills to get his heart fixed.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:37am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, that guy's working for SPHINX so it'd be kinda hard to get him to help him out.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:03pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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You know who's a star f****er though? Nikki.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:40am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Not that that's a problem.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:41am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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It was good. Not my favorite but good.
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Oct. 24, 2010, 11:59pm
  • by Hemlock
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Agreed. It wasn't Everybody Comes to Hank's good but it was still an episode I'll water-cooler with tomorrow morning. Finally Billy can live out his House fantasies at St. Barnabas.

"Hallowed Ground."
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:04am
  • by Mogo
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I gotta give billy credit. Plus now he can be a sergueon without being kidnapped but still live a clean life. I loved this episode, doesn't top hank's but equals it.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:09am
  • by Doctor X
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And HE GOT LAID!!

And he remembers it!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:51am
  • by GrimGravy
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We've lost 2 virginities this season.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:04am
  • by clayton
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I didn't think billy was a virgin, i just thought he hadn't gotten any in a long time
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:29am
  • by Pyroth
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Escape to the House of Mummies Part 2 says that he is. And I highly doubt that it changed between then and this episode.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:41am
  • by clayton
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oh yeah, forgot about that. nvm
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:44am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Can a third be on the way? You know what they say about prom night ...
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:04pm
  • by andrew
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Do the Investors remind anyone else of the 3 Stooges?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:01am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Sorta but I'm more reminded of old-time gangsters or maybe 3 demons (Lucifer, Beelzebub and Mephistopheles).
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:35am
  • by Jory
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I love their designs. They're really subtle, Clowes-ish characters. They make a good mark on the show.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:39am
  • by vinny
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That was a very well drawn foot
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:08am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, what was up with Hatred's foot?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:11am
  • by GrimGravy
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I believe the mystery was afoot.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:15am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I'll give you that one.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:21am
  • by Jory
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God damn, ALL the feet in this episode were well-drawn. Monstroso's and Billy's looked good too.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:29am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Sounds like somebody's got podophilia.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:49am
  • by Doctor X
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The agony of the feet.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 7:39am
  • by comic
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I'm surprised that bench held Monstroso.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:10am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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That's a testament to good craftmanship.


Or unearthly materials.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:29am
  • by andrew
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who did it say in the beginning that this was their favorite episode? Jackson or Doc?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:24am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Jackson.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:28am
  • by GrimGravy
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Jackson I believe.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:28am
  • by andrew
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So if a group of guys break into my house tonight and point Bat'leths and M41a Pulse Rifles at me, I'm suppose to call Spinx?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:33am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, that's the cops. SPHINX is if they threaten your mother with a laser and they're non-costumed.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:37am
  • by Mogo
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Right, it goes like this
Street Criminals:Police
Terrorists and Secret Agents(regular):FBI, CIA
Super Villans:Guild and OSI
Guys with super weapons and no costumes(Mad scientests, super terrorists):SPHINX
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:29am
  • by It's a trap!
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I thought Sphinx (Sphinx!) was after non-Guild supervillain-types, but when they saw White's check from the Investors, they jumped all over it. The Investors seem to be other-worldly, but Monstroso is a card-carrying Guild member.

Aren't they stepping on the OSI's toes?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 2:30pm
  • by Hardy
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The world is full of grey areas. Overlap is bound to happen in this business...just like the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, NSA, etc. Two or three organizations may work together on a case that involves all of them.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 3:23pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, Monstroso may have his hands in non-Guild sanctioned affairs.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:07pm
  • by ANDY
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I thought Brock didn't use guns?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:45am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Never hurts to be prepared.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:58am
  • by ijka
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ugh, this is already starting to kill me... one more episode, and then we have to wait to see if the series is green-lit for another season... and when that hopefully is officially announced its going to be another 14-18 agonizing months for 6 episodes... I have very little hope that I will see a new episode airing in the calender year 2011.

sigh

of note:

http://pics.livejournal.com/jacksonpublick/pic/0006y3he

the bottom-middle picture is definitely the guys from the Investors rollin' up on the Venture Combpound
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:49am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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There's actually a few images there that haven't happened yet. Doc showing Jefferson a picture of the boys (maybe a kidnapping?), Mile High in some sort of pilot's seat (or something) with Hunter, the floating OSI base and somebody looking up at Shore Leave through blurred eyes.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:56am
  • by GrimGravy
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Our dear Venture Bros. has made appearances in that Sunday night (top three) ratings bump a few times this season. I would think that's a good sign for a 5th season.

Otherwise, don't remind me of another year-long wait. (sobs)
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:58am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, and there have been a couple of bumps praising the Venture Bros. and promoting the 4.1 DVD.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:00am
  • by ijka
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They would be quite stupid to not renew it... the only thing that I worry about is $$ issues.... I'm sure it's not a cheap show to produce, and contract negotiations always make me queasy.

My nightmare is the fine folks behind VB and the folks over at Adult Swim can't come together and instead Tim and Eric are given a handful of McDonald's monopoly pieces to crap out another abomination.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:11am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, Tim and Eric are done.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:13am
  • by Jory
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Tim and Eric WILL be done, as far as we know, following the premiere of the Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job Chrimbus Special on December 5th.

They've made some missteps in the past, but Tim and Eric are wonderful comic performers and absolute world-class satirists. They deserve as much money as [as] can give them-- T&E and J&D can co-exist.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:34am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I will admit that Tom Goes To The Mayor was good and they've made a couple of good guest spots on other shows, but I just don't care for AS, GJ or the Steve Brule spin-off. They can be funny but the most recent stuff hasn't done it for me.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:47am
  • by Doctor X
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One can only hope. They embody the description "talentless ass-clowns."
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:24am
  • by no. 22
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From what Jackson and Doc have been saying in interviews, etc. over the past year, it really wouldn't be healthy to hold your breath for a fifth season...not any time soon. The effort it takes for the two of them to put together this show seems to be a pretty self-consuming endeavor. While they've said this will not be "the end", they do anticipate taking a much needed hiatus. Whether VB will return in serial episodes, a feature length, or in print (as origonally concieved) has yet to be discussed.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:48am
  • by Hardy
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I'm still hoping that Season 5 comes our way in Summer of 2012.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:56am
  • by Mogo
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Well if such a long hiatus is in the works then we are in for one hell of a finale.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:14pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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We're in for one hell of a finale no matter what.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:08pm
  • by Mike
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Those are Monstroso's henchmen, and we can assume since SPHINX is at the Venture Compound that they are there to retrieve Monstroso (or maybe exact revenge for his death?)
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Oct. 25, 2010, 12:59am
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Or maybe SPHINX killed him and they want to join up? You know, like those guys that worked for the witch in Wizard of Oz?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:02am
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Ooh, SPHINX army.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:03am
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SPHINX!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:46am
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Back after Season 3 but before season 4 it was mentioned that AS had green-lighted seasons 4 AND 5. Season 4 has mutated into two 8-episode mini-seasons but I believe the 5th season is still greenlighted. I think that was why the last episode of this seasons wasn't super-special -- they would be heading right into Season 5.

So I think the odds of new episodes in 2011 are good, but they will be late in the year.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:54pm
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That was an alright episode. I would've wanted more interaction between Billy and White. It feels empty to have an episode with them BOTH, yet they don't really get to bounce off each other like they usually do. I guess those two just don't work well on their own...

I loved Shore Leave though oh my god. They could make a show entirely about him and i'd watch it again and again!!!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:27am
  • by GrimGravy
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I ALWAYS want more Billy/White.

They both had honest moments in this episode: Billy thinks White doesn't care about him, that he's a leech and is holding him back from success; White, despite taking Billy in after the OSI incident in the 80's and living with him and hanging out with him ever since, refuses, when probed, to admit that he cares anything more about Billy than as a business partner. They care about each other; it just doesn't make sense for them NOT to. You can't be with someone near constantly for so long (we're talking decades here) and not have emotional attachment on a higher level than "co worker," positive OR negative.

And given their quibble in Any Which Way But Zeus, I think the AstroBase might be working toward a confrontation that will either take Billy and White to a new level with each other as partners/friends, or break them up (if only temporarily).
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:26am
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Agreed ENTIRELY. I feel kinda silly saying this, but just I gush over those two. There's something endearing about a couple of characters who are so well bonded, yet can't stand each other half the time. Although it's sad how Billy disregards White as a nuisance, while White obviously adores him so much and has trouble conveying it. Haha... maybe THAT'S the root of their problems: how emotionally disconnected they are.

But oh well. With any luck they won't break apart (because as I said, I find them harder to enjoy individually...). And hopefully the next episode will give these two at least a TINY bit of closure. Hell, my fingers are crossed!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 5:12pm
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Oh, they should just do it already!
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:14pm
  • by GrimGravy
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Precisely.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 8:43pm
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Also agreed. Though to be fair to White, how do you convey feelings to someone that you know you treat like an ass most of the time, even if you don't mean it? I would assume that would leave White feeling like a HUGE heel and therefore he prefers to just not try.

And as I said, there has to be SOMETHING there that holds them together, and they must have some inkling of it. Any sane person would not invest so much time with someone if they didn't think they were deserving of it for some reason or another. This is especially true for Billy. It IS at least partially true that he would be better off without White (he really has the skills and determination to be successful and White is ultimately a slacker). So what's stopped him over the years from dumping White and striking out on his own? Pity? Love? Sense of obligation (White took him in when he was lost, broke, confused, and short a few body parts)? Who knows, but they (and we, if only us two) could definitely do with some closure and hopefully we'll get it before a hypothetical next season.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:17pm
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Billy had no memory of the events leading up them living together. He's a man without a past, and you don't strike out on your own if you don't know where you've come from. They need each other- White needs Billy to be a better person, and Billy needs White to keep him from getting too big a head (metaphorically, although the pun is intended).
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:03pm
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As of Invisible Hand though, I assume Billy regained the memory of his past for keeps. I was under the impression that Brock and crew tried to play it off as though he were dreaming, but as this was before Brock hooked up with SPHINX (and I assume without them he had no real access to a memory wiper, especially after seeing how big this thing is in Everybody Comes To Hank's), I assume that when Billy realized it wasn't a dream and attacked Brock ("You owe meeee!") that there was little convincing him to re-forget. And in Buddy System, Billy had his Quizboys booth (to which I believe it would be impossible for White to just pass off all the similarities between him and the host as just coincidence to Billy). At this point, I believe he has to, at least in part, remember how he came to be where he is now.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:19pm
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And if he now remembers that it's White's fault that he got where he was, he could have just as easily picked up where he left off before he got tangled up in the OSI: kicking White to the curb because he's nothing but trouble.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:38pm
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Yeah yeah, that makes sense. Him being nicer to Billy would probably also incite even more "oh my god gay" snarks... as if he doesn't get enough of those already!

I never actually thought of WHY Billy still stays with White. I always assumed it was part friendship, part location (access to ADVENTURE!), part helplessness (couldn't make it on his own: freak, no job, no schooling). Hmmm. But as Mysterious H said, the two definitely need each other. Can't have a Billy without a White. Hehe...
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:38pm
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I really didn't question why on a deeper level until this episode, now that they both said what they said about each other. It just leaves me wondering if there's going to be more to it than "they're just dickheaded idiots who haven't thought of the simplest solution of just going their separate ways." Though knowing the comedy of the AsroBase, that's probably the case.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:00pm
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A really, really good 'sode. I always miss Doc when he's not around, but the show was great and outclassed Assisted Suicide in every conceivable way. I'm really happy about the way SPHINX featured without being a shitty joke-- I especially loved Shore Leave and his relationship with Brock.

But, ah, KG. We'll miss you. It's a shame both he and Monstroso have to die...
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:38am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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That's what we thought about Scott Hall, and look at him ... Come to think of it, people have a hard time staying dead on this show.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 1:43am
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ya but scott hall didnt have his heart magically taken out of his body-indiana jones style, while simultaneously dying of cancer.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 7:17pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, he got within Brock's striking range. Which has a higher survival rate, cancer victims or victims of Brock?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:05pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh, and KALIMA!!!!
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Oct. 26, 2010, 3:26pm
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Anton Lavey had a bad heart also, Monstroso is built like Anton, but he was never ruthless or paperwork savvy. just a super sweet guy on the organ who indulged people he liked.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 2:21am
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So the Investors are the nee addition to the Rogue's group? It looks to me by their powers that they maybe affiliated with Killinger.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 2:43am
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Killenger! That would be so good.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:19am
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Cigarettes and liquor be banned. Yeah, but on the up side, we grow our own pot and we legalized the gay marriage.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:21am
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Always felt, somewhere deep down, that the Venture Bros. never had enough pot jokes or references.
But i chalk it up to a maturity thing. I mean, pots everywhere, and in every comedy. And the Venture Bros. definitely isn't every comedy. JP and DH, regardless of where they stand on it, probably just don't see it necessary to bring up something so topical. Pedophilia and jars of urine are more their comedy bag. And i totally get it.
And i'm totally high.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:29am
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Do i say it, or do we all say it at once?
Degrassi reference!!!!!!!!!!
Great episode.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:35am
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Indeed. I wasn't even watching degrassi then and I know that. Never took the sea captain for a degrassi fan though. Huh.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:33am
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Maybe they intercepted a crate of DVDs and that's all there was to watch before he was rescued. Haha.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:43am
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thats awesome
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Oct. 25, 2010, 7:19pm
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Couldn't help noticing that Mile High always gets credited as Sky Pilot. Shouldn't he have reverted to his original codename just as Shore Leave has?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 3:31pm
  • by Rory
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Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that! That was probably just a typo, since I think they made a credit mistake like that before.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:03pm
  • by Mike
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Yeah, I noticed that too. He's referred to as Mile High in the show though, I think. They also changed Shore Leave to Shoreleave for this half of the season.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:12pm
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I'm not sure he's ever been referred to by name since TFTSTST part one...I noticed it in P&P and this is the first time he's had a speaking role since.

Anyone else feel he's a bit underused? Presumably he's capable of kicking about as much ass as Shore Leave.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 4:57pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I was just thinking about how little he's actually done. He helped put on the Armor of Holiness but that's about it.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:13pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I think he's underused only because he's ultimately a less entertaining version of Shoreleave. Why force the ground chuck when you can just serve the sirloin, so to speak.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 8:47pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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They should battle team up again though. That'd be like surf and turf.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:07pm
  • by GrimGravy
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Ha, true. You gotta wonder if Mile High's jealous at all that Shoreleave dumped him (professionally) for Brock.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:24pm
  • by Rob
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Speaking of being dumped, people tend to assume that Shore Leave and Mile High were only pretending to be in a relationship ('I pretended to be in love with Shore Leave!' as MH says). To me it seemed more like they were in a genuine relationship that has since broken down, and Mile High's comment in Pinstripes (and Shore Leave's reply) was actually a put-down. Any thoughts?
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Oct. 26, 2010, 4:43pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I interpreted the relationship as co-workers-with-benefits. I wouldn't doubt that they were having sex and I wouldn't doubt that they enjoyed it. I thought of it more as Shoreleave (who's totally into himself and we love that about him) being insulted that Mile High didn't worship the ground he walked on (because how could you NOT love Shoreleave) and so he bawked his retort.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:05pm
  • by Dave
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outstanding again ...brilliant non-Venture episode, great writing, Billy, Brock & Hunter. YEAH! also: Shoreleave!!

great animation too btw
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Oct. 25, 2010, 6:48pm
  • by mr c
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Hey anyone else think that Monstroso planned on getting captured to infiltrate the Venture compound (and SPHINX) besides me, hence the still unseen frame of his men coming to the compound gates?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:23pm
  • by mr c
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also, given the reputation of this show for season finalies, I must also add that I am bit scared of the possibilies coming along on with the hour long end. Anyone else wonder that some major characters will die?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 9:26pm
  • by GrimGravy
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Jackson and Doc have already played the death-of-a-major-character card twice, both in season finales (three times if you want to count Phantom Limb as a major character and even if his death was alleged at the time). I would like to think they'd like to add a different cliffhanger this time around.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:31pm
  • by mr c
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I think that it's gonna be a couple major deaths in the season ender. But I see your point also. Maybe that route is played out. Still I worry a bit that we will see the end of the Monarch.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:39pm
  • by GrimGravy
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From a writer's perspective, I would think a cliffhanger of Dr. Mrs. The Monarch starting an affair with 21 or filing for divorce would be more exciting to deal with than just killing off the Monarch and creating another "what happens to [x character] now that [x foil character] is gone" scenario, which is what the AstroBase is already doing with 21's arc. So yeah, I'm thinking fresh route. Hell, maybe we'll get another glimpse of who/what may have led to 24's death.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:56pm
  • by beb
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24 was never a major character.

The Monarch has become too central to the shows success for them to off him. Likewise any break-up of Mr and Mrs The Monarch. On the other hand Sgt Hatred has been filling Brock;'s job all season so he's a good candidate.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:09pm
  • by GrimGravy
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24 was a major character in the sense that he had a large fanbase, and was therefore just as integral to the show's success as any other popular character. Just because a character had little to do with an overall arc doesn't mean that VB fans won't be shocked to see something bad (really bad; like, death bad) happen to them.

Hatred is just getting started, they wouldn't kill him off. Yet.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:17pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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It's hard for me to believe he'd be able to forsee that complete chain of events.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:11pm
  • by mr c
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i dunno it seems odd for him not to know about sphinx and that someone would come after Billy,,,but maybe you're right.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:40pm
  • by mr c
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it also seems strange that the "investors" would just step out of the way and let brock and shoreleave get to him, being as powerful as they seem to be.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 10:44pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Well, Killenger let Rusty get out of being a supervillain and he's of comparable power.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 3:23pm
  • by Seith
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So, based on the episodes leading up to the season finale, any guesses to what P.R.O.M. stands for?

I'm thinking Protect Rusty and Orpheus from Monstroso.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:22pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I think it's one of those 'yeah, it stands for something but we're not going to tell you' things, like G.U.A.R.D.O.

Now, follow me on this but does anybody think there is any chance at all of a Kids Next Door appearance in some form? The studio that made it is in New York as well so Jackson and Doc may have come in contact with Mr. Warburton at some point. I may be way out in right field but it pays to put it out there.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 3:08pm
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I wanna know what the hell S.P.Y.N.X. stands for.
Now AND back when it was an evil organization.
But mostly now.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 11:36pm
  • by GrimGravy
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This isn't exactly on topic, but who believes that Operation P.R.O.M. will actually involve a prom? Like, a literal prom.

Personally I do not, although I love the thought of Hatred as a chaperon/DJ and Rusty trying to bank on his childhood fame to nab underage tail (while wearing his Scooby Doo Purple suit).
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:36pm
  • by Hardy
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Dr. Venture doesn't seem like the type that would chase underage tail. Like....at all. He felt really really bad about Nikki, and she came on to him...not the other way around.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 9:02am
  • by GrimGravy
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And Nikki happened a long time ago. Rusty has since become a heinously bitter little bastard (does anyone else remember that he got that raver chick pregnant from Powerless in the Face of Death and obviously we haven't heard him lamenting about that) . Underage tail is arguable, but we all know how he likes to wave his glory-filled past around.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:23pm
  • by Yup
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Did anyone else notice all the cheesy forced lines? I couldn't tell if they were on purpose or not, but the "cowboy speech" part seemed way out of place for Brock. Same when he said how cool his job was. Am I the only one to think it was weird?
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:47pm
  • by mr c
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i found those a tad strange, the cowboy speech in particular. They seemed out of character for Brock and Billy.
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Oct. 25, 2010, 11:50pm
  • by GrimGravy
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On the contrary, I think Billy loves to dish out cowboy lines/speeches. Remember all the way back to Are you there, God? It's me, Dean? Billy spouted a saccharin-sweet line about parenthood being an experiment that no scientist is prepared for. In Ice Station Impossible, he went on about violence not being the answer when Impossible wanted to shoot Hank. In House of Mummies, he was using flowery talk in reference to sex. In O.R.B., he has the little introduction to the decoding mystery at the Venture Compound. And (arguably) even Any Which Way But Zeus when he's trying to dissuade White and Shoreleave from fighting with each other.

Brock is a bit of a different story, but I guess I wouldn't say I found his speech too out of place.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:11am
  • by Yup
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Billy is all about it for sure, he throws up "go team venture" when ever possible. Brock on the other hand has always been stoic and has taken his job with a grain of salt, and sometimes sarcasm.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:27am
  • by Phosphoric acid
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Aww that reminds me, you know what we haven't had in ages? A good old "Go Team Venture!" from the boys. I know it's kind of out-of-character for them at this point, but holy crap we could really use one.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:44pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I wouldn't be surprised to see it thrown in the finale, even if only as a downer (like there's no heart behind it or the boys do it in the midst of coming to a sad realization about Team Venture).
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:26pm
  • by beb
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those two speeches were the whole point of the episode. It's all about being heroic and doing what you're best at.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:04pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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One thing I am not clear on is....who or what did Billy trip over after seeing King die? There was nothing on the floor but he clearly tripped over something while backing up....?
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Oct. 26, 2010, 12:48am
  • by chacmool
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phantom limb?
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:45am
  • by GrimGravy
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I would need to review the episode, but it's not unbelievable that he just lost his footing out of shock.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 7:45am
  • by HarveyOswaldCopplebot-Cyborgs
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So, it was a swell ride, there was a ton of effort into the backgrounds and scene switches. Like wow!

Daniel Clowes-ish characters! Yes! I agreed! Very cool!
The beady eyed eggdomed freak Silent Partner looks like some of these sculptures:
http://www.folkstreams.net/film,105
Gender switch-out though @@-!

Now, since we know they are a magic trio of nefarious intent, maybe a safe house would be there at Orpheus' place.
Next time, next time.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 1:26am
  • by Donkiku
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While I didn't hate any of the episodes this season and I think they are way better than season 3 episodes I still miss their Adventures.

I enjoy story but this is turning really soapopery. I know the humor's still there and the show looks awesome but we need more stupid adventures to keep things balanced. Next thing you know Dr. Girlfriend's gonna get pregnant with 21's child and then lose her memory in a car accident or something like that.

I know the show's gotta change to avoid growing stale but so many things are changing at once it's a little scary.

Of course I am gonna keep watching and loving The Venture Bros but can I at least have an episode or two where Doc, Brock and the kids just set out to find some hidden treasure and fight a couple frogmen?

Yeah, yeah. Brock's not even their bodyguard anymore. :P

/rant

Of course this episode was awesome. I have a hard time understanding Monstroso but hey, it's cool.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 7:56am
  • by Mogo
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Yeah I miss it too, but the charicter development and is at an all time high. Plus it's not soap, all the dramas legit. allow me to explain:
*The Monarch's been a complete douche latley, even more than usual, and despite their partnership been neglecting dr.girlfriend in favor of his career. Meanwhile 21 lost his best friend in the entire world and has started to realize how the monarch sees his men. So they have a right to go behind his back
*The boys lost their bodyguard and while hatreds fairly competent, Doc is playing it safe now that the boys are cloneless, hence less globetrotting. Plus it's expensive.
*Pete and Billy had fought for years and pete really hasn't treated Billy as anything but a business partner.
*The Captain went from high seas adventure to manning an empty musem while his boss is in space. With no respect.
*Dr.Venture has been presuring dean and putting down hank.
All of this is legitimate and realsitic. Plus Hank got a hair cut, dammit.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 9:50am
  • by Dave
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so we're up for a one hour finale, great but - does anyone know whether there will be a 5th season at all? I mean: great show, heaps of fun and awesomeness all around ... but I maybe Doc and Jackson are tired after so many years of Venture Bros? sure, it's a great show to watch, but making it must be really really exhausting. they're doing this since ... dunno ... 2003ish? maybe they wanna move on or something? so why not end right at the show's peak?

damn, that would suck (then again, it would avoid that a great show would dwindle and die like LOST did with season 6)
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Oct. 26, 2010, 8:30am
  • by Donkiku
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Yeah I know. They've been saying they haven't had a vacation since the show started. They really need a break. : ( And this season feels like it's preparing us for something.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 8:56am
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I don't know. I'd like one more season with the forewarning that it's the last season. I'd rather them not drop the series finale all of a sudden like Sealab 2021 or The Brak Show did.

But yeah, let them take some time off, catch up on sleep, all that.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 3:15pm
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My running theory at this point is that there will at least be a season 5 or a straight-to-DVD feature, but the AstroBase will be taking a hiatus first.

Jackson and Doc have stated several times over that they're really just like all of us: fans of the show. This show is their creation and something they love dearly and I don't think they would let it die on a whimper. They have more respect for The Venture Bros. than that.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:46pm
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Just occurred to me that Jackson and Doc said Billy was getting an arch this season, and none has appeared yet...a character who was in the background in Tag Sale, they said. So definitely something that's going in the next episode, or just a red herring? Everything else they said about the season was true.

My money is on Chairman Wow in any case, although I seem to remember them saying the character had had something like one line in the entire series, and I don't think Wow has had any up to this point.

Also, just throwing this out there - the Moppets are not Limb's agents in the cocoon. Henchmen 86 and 87 are. Just a hunch.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 4:39pm
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Yeah, what happened with that? You think maybe White will become Billy's arch, finally confront all that tension with the two of them?
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Oct. 26, 2010, 5:13pm
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After Scott Hall setting up White as "The Villain" for their battle in Any Which Way But Zeus, I think that would be too predictable. Then again the boys being clones was only one amongst a collection of predictable outcomes after season 1.

Having said that though, who knows how much time might pass in the Venture universe between Silent Partners and P.R.O.M. If the finale isn't set immediately after the events of Silent partners, Billy has some time to establish himself with his new medical papers and perhaps earn an enemy that way. Or, as Billy has now been established as a memorabilia collector, I could totally see something happening with the Girly Mags Guy. Some scuffle over a limited edition comic turns into a fervent revenge scheme.

........I also guess I'll be re-watching Tag Sale........
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Oct. 26, 2010, 6:41pm
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Put me down for Rick Danger as Billy's arch....hope no one dies in the finale but I am feeling that someone will pass.
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Oct. 26, 2010, 11:18pm
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Second half of season seems to be about filling details, tying up loose ends and rounding out characters.
Consider:
1. We now know where SPHINX fits into the law enforcement pantheon: one person crime - call police, many people crime with machine guns - call swat, super villains in costume- call OSI, super villainy unsanctioned by Guild - call Sphinx
2. The fate of King Gorilla
3. Where Jonas has been all season - up in space on Gargantua 2
4. What happened to the museum of Dr. Venture Sr.
5. More reasons why Rusty is so messed up - he has moments of clarity into the wreck of his life. We see he never had a chance and was doomed from the start.
6. Brock has a job fitting his unique skills and talents - which were largely wasted guarding Rusty and the boys.
7. The Venture bros universe still obeys some basic economics - note that Dr. Impossible has fallen on hard times due to his mental breakdown and loss of his lucrative contracts.
8. Whatever happened to Scott Hall, henchman #1

There are a few more loose ends: Former Mrs. Impossible - how's relationship with Jonas Jr.? What is going on with Triana (at necromancer school?) . Where's Molotov and her band of female assassins now that all of their competition was iced by Brock?
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Oct. 26, 2010, 4:44pm
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Speaking of loose ends...

I think the 3 most important questions that still need to be answered before the series ends are:

1.) Why DOES The Monarch hate Dr. Venture?
2.) Who is the boys Mother?
3.) What/Who caused the death of Jonas Venture Sr.?

Of course, other points of interest to me are random things like:

The relationship between Brock and Molotov (love or hate, they should definitely at least "get together" at some point)

The boys blossoming relationships with girls. Let's face it, they're what? 17 now? It's about time... (Hank's "success", if you can consider it that, aside, Dean's drive seems to be all about his work, yet, he was so devoted to his girl pal Triana in the past...)

And (now, more than ever) the idea that Dr. Girlfriend might actually LIKE 21.

Also, I'd like to see more of the old Team Venture, because they kick much @$$, in my opinion (especially Col. Gentleman), not to mention Sally Impossible (what ever happened to Rocket, by the way?), and I think another meeting between Tara and her girls, and Rusty and his boys would be pretty cool.

I read somewhere that in P.R.O.M, Rusty would reveal to Hank and Dean the fact that they were clones. That's all well and good, but, again, I think it's about time we start getting answers reguarding the 3 main questions I mentioned above.

I'm thinking VB will last another 2 Seasons for sure. They'll probably answer those 3 big questions sometime during the Finales of Season 5 and 6.

P.S. Anybody else buy Season 4.1 today? :D (What was up with the DVD cover? Who's chest is that? I laughed for 5 minutes after I removed the cover. Hilariously random!)

P.P.S. Someone mentioned Lost Season 6. Am I the only person who liked the Finale? LOL. ;P
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Oct. 27, 2010, 1:07am
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I got it and it's fabulous! Although the hairy chest thing was done in the ATHF Volume 7 set. I think it's Rusty's chest by the way.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 1:47am
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I dont think all these questions will be answered.
For some reason I think as soon as Monstroso comes out of the oxygen tent (with his broad shoulders, made of silicone humps), the finale will end up along the lines of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW6BSuLPyeg
A truly weird back up flanged vocal on Gail Ann Dorsey's voice. Neat! @@^%

Why not the Guild coming in to the whole end game? Monstroso is the money maker for the guild, I'll bet you a copy of the prog rock masterpiece "Yessocks".
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Oct. 27, 2010, 3:42pm
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Here's my 21/Dr. Girlfriend prediction...The Monarch gets wind of what is going on and confronts 21. But when he calls on his henchmen to attack they all stand with Gary instead. Sheila hires Monstroso and takes the cocoon and most of what Malcolm has in a divorce settlement. Finally, Gary convinces Sheila to become the supervillianess she was always capable of being and pledges himself as her #2 and the other henchmen follow.
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Nov. 1, 2010, 1:53pm
  • by kirk
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cough,cough,24's death,cough
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Nov. 2, 2010, 7:01pm
  • by Jet_Girl
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Rusty?

Yikes...that sure is an interesting placement for chest hair...

And, did I detect some scant bruises here and there?

I guess that'll happen when you're "Rusty Venture: Former Boy Adventurer"

*cue "I'm Rusty" song*
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Oct. 27, 2010, 3:03am
  • by GrimGravy
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I haven't seen the inside yet, where exactly is this chest hair? Doc Hammer allegedly has funky chest hair...and he pretty well shares Rusty's physique........How hilarious would it be if this is Hammer's chest we're looking at?
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Oct. 28, 2010, 10:22am
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I think we would know ... Doc Hammer is tattoed all over his chest ... uh. here http://auxiliarymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DocHammer3.jpg

haven't seen the DVDbox yet
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Oct. 28, 2010, 11:46am
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I was just about to comment on my realization of his tattoo'd hulk of a form.

In other words, I often speak before my mind has actually formulated the logic, so my bad.
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Oct. 28, 2010, 11:54am
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did I mention how ace Sgt. Hatred's songs were? I laughed so hard, I spilled pepsi all over my couch. also, Billy's 4some and the fire extinguisher scene. phenomenal!
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Oct. 27, 2010, 5:53am
  • by Jet_Girl
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Oh my GOD!

Yes, Hatred's song nearly had me rolling on the floor laughing! XD

"Then you went away...one dismay day..."

Although, what "made it" was definitely White's reaction--

Hatred: "I love YOOOOUUUU!"
White: *cringe*
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Oct. 27, 2010, 2:56pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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And then, Verse 2! Even more awesome, somehow.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 3:02pm
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Is the song White is playing on guitar the montage song that Brock works out to in the first season episode Mid-life Chrysalis
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Oct. 29, 2010, 12:26am
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Yes. "Revv Me Up" by the fictional Jasper McVain.
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