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Discussion: Assisted Suicide

Howdy folks, it's that again; your weekly Venture Bros. discussion thread. Feel free to say whatever you like about the latest episode, "Assisted Suicide". Newcomers be warned, if you haven't seen the episode yet, the comments will contain spoilers, so enter at your own risk!

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  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Okay, it's too creepy that Billy and White are Rusty's Eros and Thanatos. Just saying.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:39pm
  • by GrimGravy
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Creepier that Rusty's Id was REALLY adamant that they make out.** Then again he is the emotional, impulsive one.


** Not that I didn't enjoy that little slap in the face, AstroBase. I'm actually a fan of the idea of those two idiots becoming a couple.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:58am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Considering what Id is, I'm surprised he didn't push copulation more.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:10pm
  • by lew
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is this Mysterious H the musician in Austin?
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Oct. 22, 2010, 4:08pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, the name is sort of an in-reference. I used to comment here as H, but I got mentioned in the Now Museum capsule as the mysterious 'H' so I took that name on.
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Oct. 23, 2010, 1:50pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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So far, disturbing yet creepy. Also confusing.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:41pm
  • by Tricky
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Yes, all those things H, but at least the Monarchy, Dr. Mrs the Monarcht, Henchman 21, Tim-Tom & Kevin are back!
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:42pm
  • by Tricky
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fuck, how'd I spell everyone's names all wrong! I need a drink!
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:43pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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As they say in Go Fish, fished your wish.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:45pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I will admit it's nice to see them all again (even the moppets I guess). I wish knew what the hell was happening.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:44pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Aw, Rockapella!
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:47pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Id is too awesome. That is all.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:48pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh, and Cheerleader Dr. Girlfriend.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:50pm
  • by Iris
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Ha! I was like, "WTF?!"
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:23am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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And that it's plausable (or uncomfortable) enough for the moppets to buy is saying something.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:25am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Anticlimactic. Good but anticlimactic.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:55pm
  • by Iris
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Yeah, I'm not sure if I liked it as much as last week's episode. But it wasn't too bad.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:12am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Man, Jonas Sr.'s an asshole.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:57pm
  • by Tricky
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No, in that story about the party full of oh's & ho's Jonas is very much not an asshole, he's a true Pimp. Now Gentleman & the Action Man on the other hand...that was very very very very uncool.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:01am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Jonas probably put them up to it though.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:05am
  • by Mogo
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I doubt it but the whole man of the hour thing was probably an afterthought itself. he really just wanted an orgy or something and really didn't care what his friends did. Alot of people acuse Rusty of being a crap parent(and well he is) but Rusty at least has gotten better and has freinds who treat the boys pretty well instead of putting a gun to there head in the middle of the night and dropping his pants not to remove ants.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:50am
  • by GambitRF
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Can I have some skilttles? One?! Seriously? *A* skittle?
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:58pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I've had that happen. Those people, they're not your friends.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:58pm
  • by Iris
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One of these days Hatred and Brock are going to get into some kind of territorial fight or something. Brock will win, obviously.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:34am
  • by Mogo
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It'll be more of a shouting match really. Brock would take his guns away or even just take the bullet if he tried shooting him but neither of them is that stupid.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:51am
  • by Tricky
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I liked it. Quite creepy but still quite funny too.

Hey, we at least got to also see some more alterna-Rustys, I guess everyone's favorite was little Id right? I liked that freak!
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:58pm
  • by Jory
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That was pretty bad. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
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Oct. 17, 2010, 11:59pm
  • by Jory
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To expound, however slightly: Watching this episode was a really strange experience. Honestly, the episode just felt dead. The writing, editing, direction and animation all were so shoddy and poorly timed that it didn't even feel like the Venture Bros. (I still love you J&D)

The plot and symbolism made perfectly good sense, but seemed forced and slipshod. I hope that repeat viewings reveal some more interesting ideas... there seemed to be some potential in the Monarch's internalized usurper/deceiver role for some philosophical insight, and I enjoy the basic Freudian psychology, but the way they were utilized in the episode felt gimmicky. Even Doc's post-credit speech was just totally limp.

Again, I'll need to watch again in order to give the Astrobase boys more credit than this, but the show came across as having been terribly rushed.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:22am
  • by Iris
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I know what you mean. I kept thinking they really needed an hour to properly wrap up the episode.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:25am
  • by Hardy
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Or at least another 5 min.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:28am
I agree that it came across a bit rushed and it seems like they had to suffer under the weight of overly judicious editing. IT seems like there was a lot more going on in the script but it didn't make it into the final cut. I hope a longer version is available in the DVD release. I'd be happy for a storyboard version with voice over to fill in the gaps
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Oct. 18, 2010, 6:33pm
  • by Xoinx
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Huh. It's my favorite ep of the season so far. I mean, it had *everyone* in it, including 21 acting & talking like the 21 we all know & love. Lotsa yuks, some plot advancement (FINALLY, 21 makes his move!), and further insight into Rusty's psyche. As always, I'd have wanted a longer ep, but I found more to enjoy in this one than in the rest so far this season.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 8:05am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Okay, so I liked it but will definitely need a re-watch to absorb everything.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:00am
  • by Tricky
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Yeah, next time I'm watching it fucking high on chronic, I need to open my doors of perception to understand what the fuck was going on there with Rusty's mind full of open doors & haunting dead Deans & Hanks that just wanna hug people & leave poop everywhere.

Still, Sheila, is her real name Sheila?, & Gary getting all kissy-faced, I knew it'd happen eventually. 21's really been picking up so much confidence since he lost 24, he was bound to quit pretending at it & finally make a real play on the Monarch's wife.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:07am
  • by ZJS
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Quite good, yet a bit too ambitious for it's own good. Definetly going to need some analysis in future viewings. On another note, next week looks amazing.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:02am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yes it does.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:04am
  • by jjjj
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I liked it a lot, and I am happy that 21 finally acted on his feelings. I didn't find it creepy, and I'm still sort of confused about what doctor o did, and how monarch got in rusty's head, but I guess that is not important.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:03am
  • by Hardy
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Yeah, but they were both drunk. Be they really 21's feelings or not....that is not a path he actually wants to pursue.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:30am
  • by Iris
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True; no matter how he feels about Dr. Girlfriend, 21 still respects The Monarch as his leader and he wouldn't really want to do anything that might jeopardize that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:37am
  • by Gary's Inner Gygax
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I realized how sad we all are when I tried to explain this episode to my father-in-common-law.

All the same, I loved it — totally character-driven.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:04am
  • by andrew
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the Next ep looks awsommme!
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:04am
  • by Gary's Inner Gygax
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Also, yes, the ending made no sense. What'd Dr. O do? How'd the dead Hanks and Deans get in there? Guess we'll find out on Blu Ray.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:05am
  • by Johnny Israel
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I can't explain things that well. Firstly, the dead boys weren't really there. The whole episode is the goings on of Rusty's mind. They symbolized bad memories and baggage. Dr. O basically saved the day by filling Rusty's mind with love (Eros aka Billy) and The best perceived notion of himself (SuperEgo). Google Id, Ego, and SuperEgo. The whole stems from this.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:18am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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As Dr. Killenger said in Caged Bird, "Sveet love."
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:21am
  • by Hardy
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I'm pretty sure the dead boys got to the control room through the pipes of despair that Orpheus wanted to use to get there.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:33am
  • by Matt F.
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"I've seen attack ships on fire off the shoreline"

Minute I heard that I screamed "Bladerunner!".

Hilarious episode. Only Doc could throw in those classic 80's references.

P.S. Good to see Garry get his confidence level up and go full ID mode on Monarch's wife! Hope it matures into something more, preferably hand to hand/weapon to weapon combat with the mighty Monarch himself.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:05am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I hope not. I don't want to have to lose either one of them.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:10am
  • by Tricky
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You know what's up & you say it in a much shorter phrase than I. The Monarch is better off not knowing & he'd eventually find out if those 2 tried to sneak around behind his back.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:15am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, he's known for having a short temper all right.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:17am
  • by turk
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you do relize that the monarch would never win a fight with 21
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:07pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah but he'd put up a good fight, and it wouldn't be over until one of them was dead.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:29pm
  • by Tricky
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It was nice to see 21 & her getting kissy but I hope they just leave it be & don't do it no more. The Monarch's a mad possessive evil SOB & I'd for him & 21 to have to kill each other because, Malcolm's so jealous that he won't listen to reason & he holds a grudge forever.

It's just best if his wife & 21 just keep it as their little secret & 21 finds his own girl, not that I'm not happy & proud of 21 for making a move on the Mrs, just that I like the dynamic between the 2 of them & would hate to see it forever gone.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:13am
  • by PromoTheRobot
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No way. Sheila and Gary are meant to be. 21 has the confidence to stand up to anyone now, even the Monarch. My bet is Malcolm will fold like an accordion, especially when his henchmen and wife are on Gary's side. Imagine the showdown.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:52pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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YES! I had the same reaction, finally a Blade Runner reference in the show!
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:34pm
  • by Dean #7
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It's actually "Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion". Orion being a constellation.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:58pm
  • by Gary's Inner Gygax
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Pissed myself at the "corbomite maneuver" ref...
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:08am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Good but I thought Mr. Show did it better.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:14am
  • by Iris
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Well, Mr. Show does everything better.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:20am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Hard to argue with that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:22am
  • by Mogo
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That was specatucalr. and way to go 21 and i'll see you at your funeral. And anyways to explain some of the more meta stuff that went over somepeoples head.
*The three rustys were the manafestations of the three aspects of a human freud talked about ego(the logic), Id(the implusie and emotion) and superego(the best of both worlds, damn you miley cyrus).
*The thing escaping was death. I think.
*Billy and Pete were love and death, the non mind rapey kind.
*And finally the boys were as orpehous put it, the manefestations of all of rustys cloning guilt.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:14am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, I got that. What I don't get is how or why the Monarch did all this mind-raping stuff.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:15am
  • by andrew
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i still attest to the idea of the Monarch, in collage, either had a crush on Rusty or was his biggest fan, and one day tried to express his feelings to him. Then in a typical Rusty way, he shot him down in the worst possible way and which hurt him deeply. Which is where I think all the piss and vinegar comes from. but I'm sure this is wrong
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:24am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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My theory is that Rusty made fun of one of his 'way too specific poems about Monarch butterflies'.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:26am
  • by Iris
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Eh...I get where you're coming from...I just don't see it.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:28am
  • by Iris
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I think The Mysterious 'H' has it right. Sorry, Andrew.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:29am
  • by andrew
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Yeah I think he's right too. Plus Mysterious 'H's theory makes a lot more sense
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:08am
  • by mr c
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dude, i am really starting to think that by the end of this season it will be revealed that the Monarch and Rusty are in fact brothers.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:09pm
  • by alvin
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i think so too. the manarchs money for one thing he got it after some one died and it could have been rustys dad and all the hate could stem from the fact tht rusty got all the spotlight and fame.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:05pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I'd support that theory.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:12pm
  • by PromoTheRobot
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I doubt it. Go back to the Monarch's origin scene. His folks were killed in some crash and he was lost in the woods raised by butterflies. They left him a trust fund. Unless there is some surprise Venture connection ala Dr. Evil/Austin Powers then I don't see it.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:49pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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We don't see any bodies and maybe Jonas had a secret family.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:57pm
  • by JOK
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Plus the Monarch was just a child when his parents died. Rusty found out his dad died while he was at college, which the Monarch attended with him. The timeline just doesn't match up.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:03pm
  • by beb
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Not just attending the same college, but already trying to blow Rusty up. I like the idea of Rusty and the Monarch being brothers but there's no way to make the timelines work out. The best one could do was have the Monarch's mother having an affair with Jonas Sr behind her husband's back, so they would be half-brothers. But I suspect that the Monarch is just a thwarted Boy Adventurer and has turned his once love for Rusty into hatred.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:23pm
  • by Chris98vf
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I think they could be half brothers and also Dr Quimm is so obviously his half sister since Col Gentleman was never into the ladies so much to bother conceiving her.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 5:58pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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Another possibility is he was the child actor playing Rusty in the TV show; look at the opening scene from ORB and the kid has those same two front rat teeth like the Monarch
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Oct. 19, 2010, 9:51pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I'm pretty sure that was Rusty.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 11:11pm
  • by Chris98vf
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The tv show was a cartoon, that's been stated in several eps. The Orb ep shows it best as the show had the characteristic 60's cheaply drawn cartoon feel.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 8:14pm
  • by Mogo
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The mind rape was as dr.girlfreind put it "Mind Assasian"(and apperently a guild name). He basically used a machine to go into his head like Dr.O did with magic, and was trying to destroy him from within, that's why dr.venture kept trying to kill himself, the monarch was trying to either murder him or drive him insane. And since theres obviously almost no defense against this(most super scientests and super heros probably don't have necromancer paying them rent) that's probably why the guild banned it. But for whatever reason the monarch decided to do it anyway.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:37am
  • by alvin
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did you guys realy not see cerebro or howerever you spell it the helmit thing the monarch had on while he was in bed.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:02pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I saw it but it's very out of the Monarch's character to try to actually kill Rusty. He usually just tries to make his life miserable, the whole tet-a-tet thing. He's so invested in hating Dr. Venture that he falls apart without him. It's like the Joker without Batman or Lex Luthor without Superman.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:15pm
  • by andrew
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he would kill himself if he didn't have Rusty to hate
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Oct. 18, 2010, 10:23pm
  • by alvin
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I dont think he would kill himself he would turn into rusty and become a lame villan like rusty is as a super scientist.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:24pm
  • by Xoinx
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Oh, come on--when AREN'T the Joker & Luthor trying to kill their arch-nemeses?
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Oct. 27, 2010, 8:19am
  • by obvious
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because he wanted to get rusty to kill himself. the psychic lock orpheus put on rusty unfortunately kinda started messing with the monarch since the brain was no longer functional or habitable. the clone boys was enough of a reason for him to "want to get out of there".


how he did it....mind machine. he used a mindmachine. it's highly illegal and against guild rules.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:51pm
  • by Iris
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I did like all the character interaction, and it's always fun - and scary - to get a glimpse into Doc's mind. I will need to re-watch this one.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:17am
  • by Mira
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I wonder who the pink haired nurse in the Id's harem was? Mayhaps just a stripper, I guess...Strange that there was no Nikki, though. Although I guess maybe she isn't really a sex symbol to him anymore after the whole thing with her pregnancy, and not having seen her in like, seventeen years...although clearly amount of time passed isn't necessarily an issue...
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:28am
  • by Hayes
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I think the pink haired nurse is the Cup Cakes cover girl.

Helloooooooo nurse.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:37am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Nah, she's a stripper from Nighting Ales.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:46am
  • by Hemlock
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I think they are both. The pretty one is from her days on the Cupcakes mag that 21 found and the one in Nighting Ales is the current day version.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:47am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Well, everybody but Lindsay Wagner was from within the time period of the show.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:48am
  • by Hemlock
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They're all memories so time is not relevant. I will admit that I would think that Rusty would have immortalized Myra Brandish's younger version than her current version.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:52am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I can attest that sexual desires are not always memories. A lot of that is just making up scenerios in your head.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:56am
Way too much thinking going on here. I think the women included in this scene were there because they had the character models on hand and they fit into the sequence.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 6:31pm
  • by Hardy
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Why does everyone question why Nikki wasn't on the Id's bed?? He hasn't seen her in 17 years and back then it didn't seem Rusty lusted for her...she was all over HIM! As of today his image of her is as a 15 year-old-girl which is not what he's into. It all makes sense to me.

However if he ever figured out who Dermott was and found out how HOT Nikki is today in her early 30's....she'd take up the whole bed.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 11:17am
  • by Annie
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Great episode. Definitely need to re-watch.

Also: Brides of Dracula action next week. I'm so excited.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:29am
  • by Hemlock
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Oh so agreed! It's a shame that the following week is the end for yet another ungodly 1-2 years without VB.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:46am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, the super-special hour-long season-finale is coming November 21.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:50am
  • by Mogo
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Yeah it'll be a rough year but waiting a month for the finale will be a bit harder. I like dragging it out as much as the next guy but this is rediculous. My guess is there probably waiting for some of there other shows to wrap first so they have room.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:39am
  • by Hemlock
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What I think is most relevant is that Dr. Orpheus succeeded in his task and unlocked Rusty's superego. The end credits speech was possibly the most open and frank thing he had ever said to Hank in the entire series. Dean got a bit of it back in Perchance to Dean. But it required the superego to finally open himself to Hank.

Now that he's done both (and conquered his subconscious fear with the recloning), perhaps he's going to start doing a lot less failing and a lot more succeeding. I think the overall theme to the show has officially shifted.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:44am
  • by Iris
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That's an interesting theory.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:54am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I don't know. Failure's funnier than success and I can't see Rusty achieving that much. He may be more honest now but he's still pretty screwed up.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:54am
  • by Tricky
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I would think so too, that his super ego is finally free & Rusty might finally escape his failure, but his little speech at the end puts the kibosh on that whole idea.

He loves his failure of a life, he can't help but to relive his real nightmares in order to define himself as the loser that he has become. Even if he's conscious of what went on his brain & how he could've possibly went insane but didn't, he doesn't care cause the worse that that happened to him was when at his 16th birthday his Dad's friends shrunk his dick in front of a room full of the most beautiful women in the world.

All will contiue to be as it ever was in the Ventureverse. ;)
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:07am
  • by Mogo
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I think it's more in the middle. I think while his superego isn't a magic cure-all it may make rusty suck just a little less, as he showed the most comepitent parenting he has in years.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:41am
  • by mr c
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Yeah I agree. The middle ground is what usually happens. I am sure that theme of failure will never subside, but things never stay the same with this show either, which is what makes me love it.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:12pm
  • by DrSpaceboots
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Was the bed of women composed of ones he "thought he could have had" but didn't? That's the gist I got, but then why was Myra Brandish there? And if it was any woman he ever lusted for, where was Dermott's sister?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:54am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I see it as women on his current roster of desires. He doesn't have an attraction to Nikki right now but he is thinking about sex with all of those women currently. Even Myra, which makes the whole thing a lot creepier.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:59am
  • by JD
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Does that mean that Myra is 100% not the boys mother becuase she was listed under "I could've had had but I screwed up?"
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:30am
  • by Wiggles
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Personally I believe that The Invisible HAnd of Fate put to rest any questions who the boys mother is
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:46pm
  • by Hardy
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Rusty has already had Myra....he begrudgingly stated that in "I know Why the Caged Bird Kills"
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:53pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, Myra seems likely but knowing Jackson and Doc, she's a red herring. Rusty's had sex with Myra but the creepy thing is that he'd still do her, even knowing she's a psycho bitch. He would have sex with any of the women on that bed if the opportunity came up.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:18pm
  • by Chris98vf
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I think it was just his spank bank, changes from time to time like any of ours
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:36pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Exactly.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:00pm
  • by Dean #7
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Did anyone else wonder why they were all wearing headsets?

Rusty has a radio operator fetish?
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Oct. 22, 2010, 7:54am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Phone sex?
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Oct. 22, 2010, 1:21pm
  • by ijka
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interesting episode,

I kinda worry about what they are going to do with The Monarch/21/Mrs. The Monarch love triangle... there is no way that that won't come up in the final episodes.

Breaking up Dr. Girlfriend/The Monarch would ruin a pretty amusing tandem, and take the show down a road its already freaking been down before. Killing off 21 would be ridiculously rash. 21 staying on as a loyal body guard after all thats happened this season seems unlikely... so what happens? he goes off and becomes teh viceroy for real?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:57am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, but I think the Monarch may be going into more comas before this is over, if you catch my drift.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:01am
  • by Mogo
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I'm more worried for 21. He's a good egg but he does not do well under pressure. And you've seen the monarch, he's already on a short fuse about 2 inches away from the bomb, if he gets a whiff of this things are gonna go to shit fast.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:43am
  • by mr c
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Bowie and Limb have it out and 21 is somehow the new Sovereign?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:13pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Nah, Gary's not a leader, no matter how much I'd love to see that. He could take the empty screen on the Council of Thirteen though ...
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:20pm
  • by alvin
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i think it is gonna turn into asome thing were 21 still wants her but she doesnt want to cause the monarch will kill them both. but they will probably fool around when he is off fooling around with the venture family.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:10pm
  • by Mogo
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Exactly. This can not end well. Period. But you have to understand the monarch has had this coming for a LONG time. He's done what limb did and forgot her as a partner some of the time but with 21 it's worse... he's given him nothing but loyalty, even when he went to prison he was ready, and he in all probabiltiy kidnapped him at 15. That's probably true. And the monarchs treated him like another henchman and passed his best freind, who by the way was proabbly his first henchman , a fact that 21 already knows. The first season ended with him loosing dr.girlffrend, the second was about him winning her back after his lowest point, the thrid was his obsession with dr.venture and this season he's at the top and so's 21 but we finally see what that's cost him.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:41pm
  • by ghost of speedy
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21 becomes the viceroy and joins the revenge society.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 10:57pm
  • by andrew
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Does anyone else think Brock doesn't trust Hatred around the boys?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:24am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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He's got a good reason for that, and I'm not talking about Hatred's past. He's probably saved the boys a few times already, even when he was in hiding.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:35am
  • by Mogo
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Right plus brock is there well mother figure, the side that acually cares about them opsed to rustys distant and sometimes dowright abusve attitude. He still cares about the boys and besides being a former child molester Hatreds also inept most of the time. Plus theres the whole being right there for months and not being able to let the boys know he was only a short walk away was really hard on the ol brockodile.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:45am
  • by alvin
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I think that they will come to ome type of partnership over the venture family. like broock takes the kids on mondays and wensdays and hatred takes then the rest of the time while we see rusty ecome more of a scientist.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:31pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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On an unrelated note, has anybody actually watched Flatliners? That's what the Billy Mahoney line was about.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:36am
  • by andrew
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Thanks! I've been Goggling for like 15 minutes trying to get that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:57am
  • by Boradis
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I knew it, I freakin' KNEW it. Twenty one is now Lancelot. The king's best knight whose love for the queen tears down Camelot.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 1:58am
  • by Dr. Wife
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I hope the part where Orpheus and the Super Ego becomes a deleted scene in the Blu-ray edition of the complete, compiled version. Or maybe an animated flashback of how 16-year-old Rusty lost his groove. I would love that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:11am
  • by Timsparrows
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Was it just me or did anyone else think that the the puppet ego was trying to fix is Dr venture's inner child
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:12am
  • by Timsparrows
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It even has the pinocchio reference since all rusty wanted was to be a real or normal kid
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:18am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, and Ego looked like Gepetto or possibly Hephaestus.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:21pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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Oh yes, did indeed!
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:38pm
  • by Ron Bonham
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That scene has some small details in it, a clock on the wall with Brock with a hammer hitting the Monarch and a Helper figure up on the mantle.
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Oct. 21, 2010, 12:12am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I believe the Walking Eye was there as well.
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Oct. 21, 2010, 3:05pm
  • by Dean #7
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The drill machine Jonas Sr. used to escape the gas-flooded tunnels (and which Rusty later used to accidentally rediscover them) was on the shelf as well.
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Oct. 22, 2010, 7:56am
  • by model T. Wrex
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that was ron howard's bro?
people in the room go: who? linsay wagger? who is that?
this is ready for a part 2. seems like so much more couldve been explored, like the insanity of deleted scenes from the movie "forbidden planet" (father love gets weird) and what leviathan is, the traditional dragon with giant scales like in the bible, or maybe action man, with the ray gun. couldve gone on longer. easy 2 hr episode. rusty's adventure is a leviathan part 1-4.
ya everyone, drink the tronya. you get to first base.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:51am
  • by DS
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ok, I sat on an anthill as a kid AND I had a tortion teste (see "Are You There God? It's Me Dean"). Am I Dean (or maybe Doc Hammer)? weird, but I feel so much more connected to the show, hehe.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:16am
  • by Wemedge
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Anyone else seem to think this episode would have worked better as a two parter? After Orpheus reaches the Superego, the episode accelerated to Ludicrous Speed and ended way to abruptly for me. Who didn't want to see them navigate the air ducts of despair or whatever to reach Rusty's mind?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 7:18am
  • by GrimGravy
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Had we got to watch them navigates the ducts of Rusty's despairs, what else about Rusty would still be a secret for season 5? **winkwinkhopehope**
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:43am
  • by Jory
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Christ, they wasted so much time on Eros and Thanatos. What a clumsy 'sode.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:10pm
  • by GrimGravy
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That...was a lot. It was a good lot, but the bump before the show mentioned this was originally a C plot. It probably should have either stayed that way or our beloved AstroBase should have left the idea in the oven a little longer to execute it a little less franticly confusing.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 9:51am
  • by model T. Wrex
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ya, i agree, would be good if there was a part 6 coming out, skip parts 2-5. the shaving cream as suicide really was amazing though. that part had me laughing.

this guy is a dead ringer henchman, between bad haircut, accent, and shitty blue screen. set phasers on fail win:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4iw8Ppo1o
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:06pm
  • by InActionMan
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That Dude is full of Ass Burgers.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:28pm
  • by PromoTheRobot
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So happy to see Sheila and Gary finally make it. I envision those two dumping Malcolm Monarch and forming their own more successful super-villain duo. Oh I 'm sure there will be a Monarch/21 showdown but don't sell the new Gary short, especially with 24 having his back. You wouldn't expect a hottie like Dr. Girlfriend to fall for a shlub like 21 but I think she has never had a man care for her like he does
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Oct. 18, 2010, 12:07pm
  • by mogo
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Exactly she's conflicted and 21's gonna have to fight for his life. He'll proably try to avoid it but if the moppets get wind of this it'll give them all they need to pit the only two threats, sorry 3 threats, to their victory. They already took one.....
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Oct. 18, 2010, 8:43pm
  • by andrew
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I doubt it would be successful in a show all about failure, but that would be so cool.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 10:30pm
  • by Nocturnal
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Perhaps The Revenge Society will gain another member.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 4:53pm
  • by Mike
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Anybody got any suggestions for an episode-centric poll? I was thinking vote on who of Doc's special ladies you 'like best' (if you catch my drift) but that one seems kind of lame.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 3:14pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I'd vote in that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:24pm
  • by Mike
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Alright fine, who was on that rotating dealie?

Dr. Mrs. The Monarch
Molotov
Lindsay Wagner
Myra
Pink-haired 'nurse' (I am dubious of her nursing license until proven otherwise)
Sally Impossible

I'm totally missing some I'm sure
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:19pm
  • by Wiggles
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I noticed hte pink haired nurse from the cover of "Cupcakes", I think it was in The Diving Bell vs the Butterglider
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:29pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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No, I think you got them all. And you don't have to do that if you don't want.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:32pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh sorry, missed Dr. Quymn.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 7:26pm
  • by GrimGravy
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I would second voting in that.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 11:39pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Here is something I've been thinking about- this episode was written before DB vs BG (note that the moppets are still in Pupa Twins attire). What does that say about 21 getting his first solo command and the bar scene in that episode? Should we look at this in airing order or production order?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:28pm
  • by Hardy
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Always in airing order. There may only be 1 exception to this rule (The Lepidopterists, I think).
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Oct. 18, 2010, 4:51pm
  • by Mike
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Continuity-wise the episode takes place after Diving Bell. Hank's hair being the most obvious thing to look at. Airing order is generally the intended order with the exception of the original airing of season one and Assassinanny 911 was out of order in season two. The way they are listed on the sidebar here is the intended order (though obviously the seasons are in reverse). They just write them out of order a lot of the time.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:03pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Okay, that makes sense.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 5:11pm
  • by Hardy
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I suppose the A Very Venture Christmas would also be a big exception.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 11:19am
  • by Mike
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A fifteen minute exception, anyway, yeah.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 12:32pm
I'm shocked *shocked* that no one has mentioned the bit about Dean not being one of the items Dr. O needs to gain entry to Rusty's mind. To me, that was one of the best moments in the entire episode.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 6:28pm
  • by Chris98vf
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I think because the two boys are clones the Doc has less of an attachment to them as he should, even Dean. However as time goes on I think he will start to make a connection to them especially after the mending Dr O has just done.
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Oct. 18, 2010, 7:48pm
  • by Mike
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I don't even think it's that, he cares about them enough and knows that he's a poor enough father to implement cloning at all. If anything I think having the stockpile of clones made him a worse father then he is now (like telling Hank to be careful opening strange boxes in "Blood of the Father").

Really I think his detachment from them is because he's completely self-absorbed and even bordering on delusional at times. And then because of his extraordinarily bizarre upbringing and the no doubt hefty expectations his father placed upon him he's completely messed up and probably not capable of attaching himself to his own sons, almost similar to how his father was with him. He doesn't know how to be a dad because he doesn't have a single normal point of reference. Brock and Sgt. Hatred are better at being fathers than he which is completely sad given how each of them is.

I think realistically Doc never had a chance to be normal. Sadly he was destined for failure.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 12:31pm
  • by obvious
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really it was just the rush tape, honest.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 2:11pm
  • by Dave
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best episode ever.
in fact, best episode in an animated series ever. that good.
I am impressed with the writing.
and OMFG!! 21 and Sheila? The characters in Rusty's mind?
Zombie Deans and Hanks and ... Byron Orpheus, necromancer?

sheer bliss!
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Oct. 18, 2010, 6:48pm
  • by Xoinx
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Glad someone else dug this ep! But my fave-ever ep is still The Lepidopterists.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 8:37am
  • by andrew
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does anyone else think the whole "control room" in Rusty's mind that controls everything is a reference to Stephen King's Song Of Susana, from the Dark Tower series?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 10:35pm
  • by Suffragette Cindy
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Master Control is a Tron reference.

And am I wrong or was this the first VB episode with a Trek reference?
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Oct. 18, 2010, 11:57pm
  • by Remote Control
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There have been holodeck references in previous episodes.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 5:04am
  • by Mysterious Happenstance
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I'm surprised that this wasn't touched upon, but the 'master control' room that the Monarch was in looked like the 'push the button' room on Lost, right down to the hexagonal ceiling and air ducts.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 12:31am
  • by mayonegg
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It was definitely the hatch.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 2:01am
  • by Mike
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Yeah it was a Lost reference for sure. Both Jackson & Doc are pretty big Lost fans (and have referenced it at least once before) so it makes sense.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 12:24pm
  • by JDD4J4J
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Just wondering... What are the chances that Colonal Gentleman and Actionman were actually attempting to do Rusty a solid for his 16th Birthday by enlarging but ended up having the device at the wrong setting?
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Oct. 19, 2010, 1:54pm
  • by obvious
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maybe THAT is where the dimensional split comes between the alternate universe from the dean episode...lol
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Oct. 19, 2010, 2:15pm
  • by Pineboxed Female Halbino 9000
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Problems with continuity: shirts on and off. See if you can find them! Not Shore Leave! Watch again!

What was behind the giant door? Insanity running master control, up for grabs? Outtakes from the "Diving Bell vs the Butter Glider"?

Oh boy...I'm going to make some enemies, but here goes. I sure hate Lost. A show where nothing happens except other TV show plots coming in (Rod Serling wuz here) and out (maybe we're in Philip K. Dick territory, nah..), usually with the same arguments you would hear on The View. "3 different opinionions and a moderator."
Maybe it got better after season 1.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 5:17pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Shore Leave really wanted to be skins.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 5:32pm
  • by Chris98vf
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Never saw one episode of Lost, not even while channel surfing. They're on an island right?
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Oct. 19, 2010, 6:01pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, I think there's a professor and a movie star there too.
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Oct. 19, 2010, 6:37pm
  • by ghost of speedy
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the show ends with all of the characters going to heaven.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 11:04pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Unless there were hookers and booze, I'm glad I missed it then.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 11:21pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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You know, like in that episode of Sealab 2021.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 11:22pm
  • by Jory
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Nope. It got worst.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 12:10pm
  • by Xoinx
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Watched the first ep until the pilot was eaten (or whatever). Switched off then and never looked back.
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Oct. 27, 2010, 8:39am
  • by v
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it was a great episode.
this voyage to rusty's mind informed a lot about the doctor. for exemple, the fact that he has guilt for the cloning of the kids. there was a episode that he said that the cloning was like a safety net for the kids, something positive. knowing now about this guilt, we can see how this haunt him. and is nice to see his ego using something of his id. id is psych energy, maybe now, with the ego interference, rusty will make more with himself. even more with free superego.I noticed also that his superego has hair, muscles but don't use the "clothes of cientist", like the alternate rusty or superhero clothes. just the simple venture suit
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Oct. 19, 2010, 6:10pm
  • by Chris98vf
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The simple speedsuit in a way looked like prison attire on the SuperEgo
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Oct. 19, 2010, 6:20pm
  • by Mysterious Happenstance
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Upon rewatching the episode, I noticed that 24 gave away how Wonderboy died: "I have seen a giant penny roll over a guy dressed in rainbows." Thought that was a nice touch.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 1:15am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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I thought he got disintegrated. Why else would the Monarch want them to send the charred remains to Captain Sunshine?
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Oct. 20, 2010, 12:45pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Also, did you name yourself after me? Because that's not what the H stands for.
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Oct. 20, 2010, 12:46pm
  • by ghost of speedy
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can we please discuss the fact that Mr. and Mrs. Monarch seem to have drawers full of BDSM and role play gear easily accessible from their bed?
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Oct. 20, 2010, 11:50pm
  • by Dave
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who doesn't?
loved that scene ... also, Sheila's G-A-R-Y chant / dance
brilliant
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Oct. 21, 2010, 8:10am
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Oh yeah, more (or moar, as they say on the internet) of that please.
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Oct. 21, 2010, 3:10pm
  • by The Mysterious 'H'
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Yeah, we know they're kinky. There was at least once where they had a threesome and the Monarch was touching himself while Sheila seduced Rusty in Midlife Chrysalis. I may be remembering this wrong but I think there were puppets involved once as well.
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Oct. 21, 2010, 3:09pm
  • by Dean #7
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"Oh I guess the muscular one is alright, but the boy is just going too far. Can't we just use the puppet again?"
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Oct. 22, 2010, 8:01am
  • by Chris98vf
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Here's a link to the G-A-R-Y Cheer I made into a short MP3 for a buddy of mine named Gary. If any of you are named Gary, your welcome lol

http://stashbox.org/1020574/G-A-R-Y.mp3
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Oct. 24, 2010, 8:33pm
  • by calladay
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Does the whole Rusty getting hot as he's dying thing a reference to Osmosis Jones?
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Nov. 3, 2010, 3:12am
I like that Rusty loves Rush
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Feb. 16, 2013, 11:56am
And don't forget YES
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Mar. 6, 2013, 10:06am
I'm just happy they make fun of Creed
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