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Welcome back friends, this week brings us another exciting episode of The Venture Bros. This episode potentially contains returning foes and a heaping helping of awesome. Use the comments to discuss the episode to your heart's content! Visitors be warned; HERE BE SPOILERS! So stay away if you haven't seen the episode (unless you enjoy being spoiled).
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Update (11/16 6:34pm): The episode is up on Adult Swim Video now.
Update (11/16 1:30am): Head over to the capsule page to rate the episode.
Update (11/16 6:34pm): The episode is up on Adult Swim Video now.
- by Grethiwha
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When I watched the preview, I thought they went crazy with all that stuff, but seeing it in context I am much more satisfied. I've been wondering how the hell they could put future Doc in context, and the result was a hilarious gag made more hilarious by the fact that I've been wondering about it for months.
- by Hayes
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- by Jory
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What a schizophrenic episode! Really quite good, though I'll have to watch it again. All the component parts seemed great but I'm not sure they make a terrific whole. I loved Sandow breaking the ORB, as I thought the myth of the ORB was really pretty boring and was happy to see it get nerfed. I loved Wisdom's betrayal quite a bit. The dialogue was all razor-sharp, I loved all the exchanges between Dean and Dr. V ("I just wet nap up my puke") as well as those between Hank and Hatred... and anything Bowie fucking rules.
But "HERE COME THE WARM JETS!" absolutely made the episode for me. Good times.
But "HERE COME THE WARM JETS!" absolutely made the episode for me. Good times.
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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I have to admit, I feel a bit let down too. The first half was fine, four star material, but I honestly expected better from Phantom Limb. And it really did get sitcom-y at times. There were good things, like Bowie and the whole Hatred relapse thing, especially the birds and bees talk. On the whole though, the stories never really came together or resolved. Very anticlimactic.
Still, it did open up new possibilities- if Sandow didn't kill Thaddeus, what happened as a result of that? How did Hatred and Hank get down to the What Goes Down Must Come Up basement if Doc bolted it shut? And what about Billy and Hatred? Wow, sounds kinda soap opera-ish as well. Overall, good but one of the more imbalanced episodes.
Still, it did open up new possibilities- if Sandow didn't kill Thaddeus, what happened as a result of that? How did Hatred and Hank get down to the What Goes Down Must Come Up basement if Doc bolted it shut? And what about Billy and Hatred? Wow, sounds kinda soap opera-ish as well. Overall, good but one of the more imbalanced episodes.
- by Another Venturrrre
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Anybody else vaguely reminded of that episode of Spongebob Squarepants where he vows never to go outside again? And he names a chip 'Chip' and a penny 'Penny?' Anyway I think the cutaway to Dr. Girlfriend looking for her shoe was hilarious on so many levels.
David Bowie was just excellent in this episode. 'So glad they put all this stuff back together and tied it up.
Any one else sorta done with Sgt. Hatred and his boy-loving? One trick pony, much? Anyway, he's never been a character I've liked much, except in the last episode when he tells Dr. V that he was hired because he's 'great!'
David Bowie was just excellent in this episode. 'So glad they put all this stuff back together and tied it up.
Any one else sorta done with Sgt. Hatred and his boy-loving? One trick pony, much? Anyway, he's never been a character I've liked much, except in the last episode when he tells Dr. V that he was hired because he's 'great!'
- by Johnny Israel
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I agree with Twenty Years to Midnight, but with some reserve. Basically it was Dr. Impossible putting the gateway together successfully and the gateway being in the right spot to happenstance more so than anyone doing anything correctly. So yes, saving the world was successful, but more out of dumb luck. (I realize I'm over simplifying the episode a lot and well....we are f'n arguing over technicalities of a cartoon show...)
- by mogo
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I'd say this episode was anticlimatic but was still outstanding. they slayed my expectations with phantom limb being deluded rather than threating and the orb being nothing. but hanks trickng hatred was fun. And the next episode looks fun as the monarch does yeat another rediculous plot that makes little to no sense, and hatred is tempted. is anyone suprised dean choose a children's filmed. also sidenote I loved bag-billy. and the two headed councilman. that's a great title for a 70's buddy cop movie.
- by Mike
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Orb being worthless is possibly one of my favorite things in the entire series. The Orb episode was basically a lampoon of fans who look too hard for hidden things in the series but it ended up spawning a ridiculous story involving the Orb and such, and the complete removal of that is pretty amazing. Also I don't really think some kind of working ultimate weapon really fits into the series at all. It's about this weird arching bureaucracy where nobody really even kills anyone else with wacked out super heroes and scientists and what have you. At the end of the day nobody really wants to get anything accomplished, and something like Orb (as it was explained last season) is the means to an end. Someone can win with that. The very idea it exists is a threat to the entire universe the show has built up.
- by Jory
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Amen, I totally agree. I loved how basically nonchalant Thaddeus Venture was about its destruction, too. "My orders were to kill you." "Oh, well, thanks."
It's not as if the thing would've worked anyway-- just because most of history's greatest geniuses added to it doesn't mean it's going to be some incredible and perfect machine. Most of them didn't even know what they were adding to! Crowley, for example: what the hell could he have possibly added, having no idea what the Orb was supposed to do in the first place?
That it didn't work was funny and totally appropriate. Right on, Doc!
It's not as if the thing would've worked anyway-- just because most of history's greatest geniuses added to it doesn't mean it's going to be some incredible and perfect machine. Most of them didn't even know what they were adding to! Crowley, for example: what the hell could he have possibly added, having no idea what the Orb was supposed to do in the first place?
That it didn't work was funny and totally appropriate. Right on, Doc!
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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The orb's purpose seems to have been passed down from genius to genius and besides, you don't need to know the purpose of greatness to recognize greatness. It feels like a cheat to me that it didn't work. It's like they painted themselves into a corner and then broke through the wall to get out. I wouldn't mind so much if orb did something, even if it was just a musicbox or laser light show. But this feels like taking the easy way out for me.
- by Angsthasepfeffernasecephalic
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that lady nightshade action is right outta the tick's american maid bag of tricks. anyone who uses a broken mug as a henching sidekick is ok in my book. hand made italian shoes, billy bag and a toster isnt too bad either.
this was the one time i really connected with sgt h's hysterical self pity party. he really over did it in a good way. clap clap clap, best gush tony award winning cavalcade of aftershave flavored tears so far!
i was thinking all those pirson buddies who ignored monarch (during his escape) were going to show up after being shot on phantom limbs compound as off the gird co-plotters of terrible revenge. maybe white static has died from a bullet wound, which, by laws of physics, seemed completely impossible. in the real world racist tv repairmen dont die, they get drunk in mexico and forget most of the stuff they were talking about the day before when they see how cheap sombreros are in the paradise of tijuana.
third uncle? paw paw negro blowtorch? where have you been? tiger mountain?
this was the one time i really connected with sgt h's hysterical self pity party. he really over did it in a good way. clap clap clap, best gush tony award winning cavalcade of aftershave flavored tears so far!
i was thinking all those pirson buddies who ignored monarch (during his escape) were going to show up after being shot on phantom limbs compound as off the gird co-plotters of terrible revenge. maybe white static has died from a bullet wound, which, by laws of physics, seemed completely impossible. in the real world racist tv repairmen dont die, they get drunk in mexico and forget most of the stuff they were talking about the day before when they see how cheap sombreros are in the paradise of tijuana.
third uncle? paw paw negro blowtorch? where have you been? tiger mountain?
- by sidtheskitch
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Hey Portland dude, my band is playing portland sometime next month.
On to buisness... my favorite episode. Period. "I've been standing here with my dick in my hand... That was my dick." And Phantom coming back? Hell yeah.
Couldn't stop laughing. Only episode I didn't like this season was Handsome Ransom. Oh and Hatred is the best. I love him!
On to buisness... my favorite episode. Period. "I've been standing here with my dick in my hand... That was my dick." And Phantom coming back? Hell yeah.
Couldn't stop laughing. Only episode I didn't like this season was Handsome Ransom. Oh and Hatred is the best. I love him!
- by dann
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I'm thinking this might be my least favorite episode of the season if not all of Venture Bros. Bowie was cool, but I'm getting really sick of Hatred and I think a lot of time was wasted on the 2headed councilmen. So we've got a Monarch episode a Triad Episode and the Semi Finale (unless the Triad Ep is the SF)
I love the character development of the ventures and the monarchs but I just wish we could do away with the worst body guard ever.
I love the character development of the ventures and the monarchs but I just wish we could do away with the worst body guard ever.
- by CJ
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I completely agree about Hatred, he's starting to get on my nerves a bit. I mean, I liked the two-headed councilmen bit because it added a little bit more humor to the episode (funny to think that that's how the Guild leaders act I guess) but something really does need to be done about Sgt. Hatred. He goes to pieces over nothing and it's just not funny anymore. He's like the anti-Brock.
- by Red Menace
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I'm going to need to watch this a few more times, but loved it. As for Jackson Pollocks statement, I still don't like the big lug so I guess thats it. Hopefully his meltdown will happen in the next episode or two so we can be done with him. A great Rosie Grier tribute. I would have kept the motorcycle chase in. I am hoping for more backstory as the season progresses. Jackson and Doc have created a truly wonderful world.
F@$%ing loved the Action Man story
F@$%ing loved the Action Man story
- by Drew McManus
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- by no.22
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Public, not Pollock...come on man.
While I can sympathize with all of the Brock lover's (and certainly agree that Hatred goes a long way towards antethesizing the former bodyguard), I'm glad that the show has made some distance from the obligatory Sampson-whoopass-extravaganza. Though always fun, it does little to showcase the very-talented men who write the show.
I think Hatred is hilarious, and I love all of the dialouge opportunities his sordid history affrords the script. I love how dynamic the story-arc has become in the last 8-10 episodes.
While I can sympathize with all of the Brock lover's (and certainly agree that Hatred goes a long way towards antethesizing the former bodyguard), I'm glad that the show has made some distance from the obligatory Sampson-whoopass-extravaganza. Though always fun, it does little to showcase the very-talented men who write the show.
I think Hatred is hilarious, and I love all of the dialouge opportunities his sordid history affrords the script. I love how dynamic the story-arc has become in the last 8-10 episodes.
- by Creepy Crooner
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Agreed. While Brock kicking ass and murdering henchmen left and right is always entertaining it had already kind of run its course within the context of the show. One of the reasons VB is great is that it doesn't tend to drive recurring gags or themes into the ground just for laughs.
Hatred is a great replacement in that he brings an entirely new (and entirely hilarious) dynamic to the Venture family that IS basically the antithesis of the situation with Brock. Great stuff.
Hatred is a great replacement in that he brings an entirely new (and entirely hilarious) dynamic to the Venture family that IS basically the antithesis of the situation with Brock. Great stuff.
- by Eric
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Okay. So, for now I'm gonna put aside all the rampant speculation and plot nit-pickery, 'cause I've been wondering about this since the season 2 finale.
The Alchemist still has Phantom Limb's PENIS, right?
(which, incidentally, might go a long way towards explaining him being batshit crazy.)
The Alchemist still has Phantom Limb's PENIS, right?
(which, incidentally, might go a long way towards explaining him being batshit crazy.)
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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This gives you a fair idea if you've never seen it (specifically at 1:00):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHdW2Znj9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHdW2Znj9s
- by Angsthasepfeffernasecephalic
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was so satisfied with this episode they coulda ended it with the wow! found the playboys! ...but, seeing the best screamed semi-soliloquy of Hatred ( i knew he would deliver as he gets more messed up in his own emotional salad )(or end up becoming a pretend Nixon or J. Edgar Hoover crossdresser), Bowie and early Roxy Music era Eno on the same front lawn (what can Eno DO exactly? manage devices i would imagine)(like the ORB), and the crappy opulence of Phantom Revenge with his bag of stupid, nothing else mattered. how many times have you seen someone use a mug as a henchman-cum non-weapon? a toaster? a sh--- uh, ya, mug and toaster this is a good and warm place for convoluted arrows to land backwards. or something. yes. case dismissed!
one more thing. i thought the council was one entity as seen in Shadowman 9, they just walk around under a bed sheet apparently.
one more thing. i thought the council was one entity as seen in Shadowman 9, they just walk around under a bed sheet apparently.
- by The Mysterious 'H'
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I've taken some time and realized something. This was the first time I really missed Brock this season. They've done a good job of more or less moving on without him but this episode, you can feel his absence and how much it affects the plot to have Hatred there.
This is a good episode, Season 4 quality to be sure, but it does feel like it's missing something.
This is a good episode, Season 4 quality to be sure, but it does feel like it's missing something.
- by Mike
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I think if Brock were there it would have been far less entertaining actually. He would know that the entire fucking Guild wasn't there to do anything bad, he would have basically let them in to do their thing and it would have been over. The back and forth between Hank and Hatred only happened because Hatred was so desperate to get Hank to like him, because honestly I think Hatred would have otherwise realized that something didn't seem right.
Also Hatred/Hank scenes amuse me because they are essentially Chris McCulloch talking to himself.
Also Hatred/Hank scenes amuse me because they are essentially Chris McCulloch talking to himself.
- by Angsthasepfeffernasecephalic
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the door shut with Sgt. Hatred rambling on and on is a good thing. thought that was great. just let him talk and talk. he is good with explosives and NOTHING else.
wasnt that 'we dont want to go outside because we're old' from Simpsons?
the ever circling skeletal family are a pretty good idea for an alarm system.
wasnt that 'we dont want to go outside because we're old' from Simpsons?
the ever circling skeletal family are a pretty good idea for an alarm system.
- by Mike
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The site uses a list of common spam words and the threshold is pretty low. Did you say 'casino' a bunch of times or maybe 'pharmacy' or 'viagra'? Most of them are nonsense-ish words that nobody uses on a regular basis but there are a couple real words in there. 'shoes', 'penis', 'porn', 'casino', 'incest' are all words that could potentially be used in a non-spam comment here and the post would be flagged as spam. I should probably remove shoes, penis and porn anyway. There's a sentence I never thought I'd write.
- by Mike
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Although I was just able to post that so who knows. The first line of defense is a random hash set in the the browser's session which can expire for any number of reasons (if you clear your cookies or something) and cause your post to fail (this is by far the most effective method of killing spam as far as I found). Since your spam post didn't even insert I'm going to guess that was the case :(
- by Mike
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- by Creepy Crooner
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cheers! good lookin' out!
THe basic gist of my post was as follows:
GREAT episode! The ORB not working was really the only way they could go with that and NOT make it disappointing. I'll rewrite the detailed version later perhaps but yea - this season just gets better and better with every passing ep!
THe basic gist of my post was as follows:
GREAT episode! The ORB not working was really the only way they could go with that and NOT make it disappointing. I'll rewrite the detailed version later perhaps but yea - this season just gets better and better with every passing ep!
- by Phil
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Sandow wasn't supposed to kill Lloyd when he found the Orb...he was supposed to kill him if he tried to ACTIVATE it. Big difference, as Lloyd was involved in constructing the thing in the first place.
Ditto Brock/Rusty. Rusty finding it wasn't the problem (especially since he relocated it to a much more secure hiding place...well, more secure than out in the open...), Brock was only meant to kill him if he tried to activate it. Once Rusty made clear to Billy that he wouldn't, Brock sighed relief and put the knife away.
Of course, you're right to second-guess the Kano assassination thing. I can't wait to see how that pans out.
Ditto Brock/Rusty. Rusty finding it wasn't the problem (especially since he relocated it to a much more secure hiding place...well, more secure than out in the open...), Brock was only meant to kill him if he tried to activate it. Once Rusty made clear to Billy that he wouldn't, Brock sighed relief and put the knife away.
Of course, you're right to second-guess the Kano assassination thing. I can't wait to see how that pans out.
- by Richard
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I know that the OSI wasn't actually after Brock. But Brock thought that the OSI was after him. It's no good to say that it's because his car tried to kill him and Molotov told him about the assassins... he would still wonder *why* the OSI sent the assassins after him. And in both episodes, he doesn't bother looking for any sort of a motive... he doesn't discuss it with Hunter or anything.
In other words, it's pretty clear that Brock thought that the OSI was coming after him, and he thought he knew why the OSI was coming after him. It's that second question that's the problem. I can't see why he'd think he was a legitimate target unless he thought he had done something wrong.
(In my original comment I wrote "why did he think the OSI was on his trail?", which is scopally ambiguous between two propositions. That's kind of neat. One of them would accept an answer "X caused Brock to think the OSI was after him" and the other would accept an answer "Brock thought X was the reason the OSI was after him." I'm interested in the second.)
In other words, it's pretty clear that Brock thought that the OSI was coming after him, and he thought he knew why the OSI was coming after him. It's that second question that's the problem. I can't see why he'd think he was a legitimate target unless he thought he had done something wrong.
(In my original comment I wrote "why did he think the OSI was on his trail?", which is scopally ambiguous between two propositions. That's kind of neat. One of them would accept an answer "X caused Brock to think the OSI was after him" and the other would accept an answer "Brock thought X was the reason the OSI was after him." I'm interested in the second.)
- by sidtheskitch
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- by CJ
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In Phantom Limb's defense, he was trying to be menacing, but he was also completely insane. I mean, in his mind he was going to take down the Guild, but in reality he was just a guy with a broken coffee mug, one of Dr. Girlfriend's shoes, and a toaster he thought talked to him. So what could he really hope to accomplish?
I kinda feel sorry for him though, even after what a complete ass he was in the show.
I kinda feel sorry for him though, even after what a complete ass he was in the show.
- by Hayes
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I've been thinking about this episode all day. I just can't get it out of my head, and in a bad way. I feel like two of the most bad ass stories in the VB universe were just wasted in one episode.
Does anyone else get the feeling that Doc Hammer just really likes to dick with the fans? Things like ORB turning out to be broken, Phantom Limb going crazy, 24 dying, etc... are just him saying "Hey, I don't like how the fans are making a really big deal out of these little things, so lets end it by ending these characters/plot lines in the stupidest ways possible!"
Does anyone else get the feeling that Doc Hammer just really likes to dick with the fans? Things like ORB turning out to be broken, Phantom Limb going crazy, 24 dying, etc... are just him saying "Hey, I don't like how the fans are making a really big deal out of these little things, so lets end it by ending these characters/plot lines in the stupidest ways possible!"
- by Creepy Crooner
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Hahaha! I get the feeling that Doc Hammer really likes to dick with fans, but I see him saying "hey, I don;t like how the fans are making a really big deal out of these things, so lets end them in the most hilarious and Venture-appropriate way possible!"
Having the ORB turn out to be broken (and the mishap covered up for decades) is such a perfect way to end that thread! If you don't see how that was a perfect Venture moment then again, I ask you what show have you been watching? Phantom Limb going crazy was not only bound to happen (as he was already going off his rocker nearing the end of Season 2) but also executed in the most hilarious of ways (I particularly liked how all his "sidekicks" were totally docile household items but ended up being used somewhat effectively to disarm and infiltrate).
Mostly, Doc Hammer is sending a message that THIS IS A COMEDY SHOW!!!!! Just enjoy the silliness AND the mythology as they obviously work hand-in-hand and not against each other as you seem to think.
Having the ORB turn out to be broken (and the mishap covered up for decades) is such a perfect way to end that thread! If you don't see how that was a perfect Venture moment then again, I ask you what show have you been watching? Phantom Limb going crazy was not only bound to happen (as he was already going off his rocker nearing the end of Season 2) but also executed in the most hilarious of ways (I particularly liked how all his "sidekicks" were totally docile household items but ended up being used somewhat effectively to disarm and infiltrate).
Mostly, Doc Hammer is sending a message that THIS IS A COMEDY SHOW!!!!! Just enjoy the silliness AND the mythology as they obviously work hand-in-hand and not against each other as you seem to think.
- by GilbertSmith
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I agree. They've been making us wait a year to see ORB wrapped up, and two years to see Limb's arc continued. They give us both in one episode, and it's a hilarious anti-climax. That was really the best way for them to deal with these huge plot threads while staying in the spirit of the show.
Besides which, I thought it was just hilarious and ballsy to so carefully build a mythology around Limb and the ORB only to unceremoniously finish them off in a mid-season episode.
Besides which, I thought it was just hilarious and ballsy to so carefully build a mythology around Limb and the ORB only to unceremoniously finish them off in a mid-season episode.
- by Angsthasepfeffernasecephalic
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yes, lets make it as stupid as possible with the word loser tacked at the end of the tunnel. the jokes on us. our epic wash of apocalyptic visions are brushed to one side and likened to someone finding a dust bunny hiding under a bar of soap. eh.
which is a really messed up thing to be doing to a jaded 'seen all the Cameron movies. thanks!' target audience. right? wrong.
Monarch gives these huge speeches with grandiose terror in store to be compromised to stealing paper clips in one instance. expect ____@@____?
which is a really messed up thing to be doing to a jaded 'seen all the Cameron movies. thanks!' target audience. right? wrong.
Monarch gives these huge speeches with grandiose terror in store to be compromised to stealing paper clips in one instance. expect ____@@____?
- by cpc65
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Sweet! My home State (Rhode Island) gets a mention. Also CVS, who started in RI and is where their corporate HQ is (Woonsocket). They're kinda one of our customers where I work.
Wow. I didn't expect Limb, I mean Revenge, to be so tapped. Maybe they'll make action figures out of the rest of the "Revenge Society".
Wow. I didn't expect Limb, I mean Revenge, to be so tapped. Maybe they'll make action figures out of the rest of the "Revenge Society".
- by InActionMan
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This ep adds fuel to my theory that Dean and Hank are clones of Jonas Senior and Brock's Father.
I think that Myra Brandish may be Brock's sister of half-sister. Maybe she and Rusty commiserated about missing their fathers and Rusty made the boys from some old toe nail clippings and hair.
If Dean is a Jonas Sr. Clone then he would technically be the oldest living Venture and heir to the leadership of the Guild.
Hank being a clone of Brock's father would explain why Brock has referred to the Ventures as his family.
I think that Myra Brandish may be Brock's sister of half-sister. Maybe she and Rusty commiserated about missing their fathers and Rusty made the boys from some old toe nail clippings and hair.
If Dean is a Jonas Sr. Clone then he would technically be the oldest living Venture and heir to the leadership of the Guild.
Hank being a clone of Brock's father would explain why Brock has referred to the Ventures as his family.
- by Mike
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We don't actually know if Myra is their mother yet. Rusty certainly boinked her, and he certainly made the boys outside of the lab, but the connection between the two isn't fully apparent yet. Myra might just be an insane person... well I mean, she certainly is that, but she might be making up giving birth to the boys.
- by LumberJohn
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Did anyone notice that this episode had 3 potential references to 'Return to Malice'; all from 21's list (and I may be stretching here):
"Shape-shifting nightshade": David Bowie (naturally) and Dr. Girlfriend's shoe- whose named Lady Nightshade.
And the Intangible Fancy: which may be "Happenstance" (suggested by another commenter- Hardy)
Seeing Phantasmos play the sousaphone reminded of how Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett rounded up Salvation Army brass musicians to play in his tracks (much to the dissapointment of the other musicians).
"Shape-shifting nightshade": David Bowie (naturally) and Dr. Girlfriend's shoe- whose named Lady Nightshade.
And the Intangible Fancy: which may be "Happenstance" (suggested by another commenter- Hardy)
Seeing Phantasmos play the sousaphone reminded of how Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett rounded up Salvation Army brass musicians to play in his tracks (much to the dissapointment of the other musicians).
- by Creepy Crooner
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It is unclear whether the councilmen were actually Buddy and Jiles or if this was just in Billy's imagination (as their identities changed once Billy was aware that the story was taking place in the 1950s as opposed to the 1650s) but it is totally plausible, especially since the Guild seems to be ultimately associated with famous musicians. Even Phantom Limb states that "the Guild was once much more than a safe haven for washed up rock stars" or something to that effect (I'm sure someone will correct me) which is pretty awesome (and makes the whole Bowie, Iggy Pop, Klaus Nomi, Brian Eno thing make a lot more sense.
- by Mike
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- by Roscoe
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Finally! My Explorer hasn't been letting me post!
So, I thought this was a Wildly happenin' Episode. Hillarious in every way. I loved the reveal that "lady nightshade" was Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's shoe. As a builder of many vintage Hotrods, a lover of 50's culture, and Rockabilly in general, I have to say, I really enjoyed the Boddy Holly/ Big Bopper reference. Just Aces.
Anybody else noticing that the guild brass seems to be made up of all musicians?
.......just something to think about.
By the way, that Calvin and Hobbs Reference, Priceless! and So bitchin; that they specified it was NOT one of those dumb-ass knock off Peeing calvin's either.
Man, I can't believe the half-season i almost over! We've hardly even seen Brock! two episodes; and he didn't even speak in one of those!
The season has been pretty damned funny, no two ways about it, but it is really lacking in the killing, mayhem, and '69 Charger department.
Aces-to-Eights the scond half-season is LOADED with Brock episodes though.
You know, I was really gunning for Phantom to make a boss comeback, but I really was hoping he would be calling himself the prosthetic limb; But I suppose that was too damned obvious.
anyway, that's my two cents.
So, I thought this was a Wildly happenin' Episode. Hillarious in every way. I loved the reveal that "lady nightshade" was Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's shoe. As a builder of many vintage Hotrods, a lover of 50's culture, and Rockabilly in general, I have to say, I really enjoyed the Boddy Holly/ Big Bopper reference. Just Aces.
Anybody else noticing that the guild brass seems to be made up of all musicians?
.......just something to think about.
By the way, that Calvin and Hobbs Reference, Priceless! and So bitchin; that they specified it was NOT one of those dumb-ass knock off Peeing calvin's either.
Man, I can't believe the half-season i almost over! We've hardly even seen Brock! two episodes; and he didn't even speak in one of those!
The season has been pretty damned funny, no two ways about it, but it is really lacking in the killing, mayhem, and '69 Charger department.
Aces-to-Eights the scond half-season is LOADED with Brock episodes though.
You know, I was really gunning for Phantom to make a boss comeback, but I really was hoping he would be calling himself the prosthetic limb; But I suppose that was too damned obvious.
anyway, that's my two cents.
- by ibrick
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am i over-thinking a minor plot point, but isn't Hank the elder brother (Dean: "Yeah, by like, four minutes!"), so wouldn't he be the rightful Sovereign? Unless... ??? Maybe Bowie knows something we don't?
My theory: Jackson & Doc read all these posted speculations, just make sure that whatever they end up writing is unexpected.
My theory: Jackson & Doc read all these posted speculations, just make sure that whatever they end up writing is unexpected.
- by Sparky
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orb ?
The real Orb was left in the Frick Museum - right? AKA Avengers Mansion. I guess not. The one in the safe has to be a decoy.
J. P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson and Buddy Holly were the washed up musicians - right?
The real Orb was left in the Frick Museum - right? AKA Avengers Mansion. I guess not. The one in the safe has to be a decoy.
J. P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson and Buddy Holly were the washed up musicians - right?
- by Dave
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